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Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
July 20 2010 22:11 GMT
#141
As this is pretty diaheartening I just like to contribute that I've been to 4 TL-meetups, all have them have been truly great experiences and please don't let this purest of douchebaggery repel you from ever taking part in one. The steps TL has taken are just and I hope more communities, sites and organizations will follow their example.
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8114 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 22:12:38
July 20 2010 22:12 GMT
#142
man i cant believe this happened. i always considered SC players a cut above the rest, but i guess it's not just true for everyone any more... :\
Free Palestine
Gooseheaded
Profile Joined May 2009
United States125 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 00:25:30
July 20 2010 22:17 GMT
#143
Mod Edit: Please don't post pictures.

Left to Right: Semih, TAD, Loudog

I read some people wanted pictures of them, so I figured I'd give you guys a hand. And I couldn't help but do it in a funny manner, sorry.
play better, macro, control
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
July 20 2010 22:18 GMT
#144
Wow.... just wow... I'm surprised such people exist in front of our eyes. Sure I can imagine such people here and there with such bad intentions and hearts but to actually carry the act and commit such crime is inexcusable. I also do feel just a ban doesn't seem enough for these people but I sincerely hope these people grow up, reflect on what they did, and change for the good. From their attitude though, I don't see them doing that anytime soon.

In any case, on a positive note, I am once again enlighten and impressed by the power of this TL Community that I only came to know a year and half ago. I witnessed it myself on NYC Lan but I really do hope our community will become stronger after this mishap and grow together where we can all succeed and prosper! ALL HAIL TEAMLIQUID!
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hobbesss
Profile Joined June 2010
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 00:25:16
July 20 2010 22:34 GMT
#145
here's another angle from which you can recognize loudog

Mod Edit: Please don't post pictures.

suspect is known to carry a fork at events, in case of noob-cannibal acts. There has been no recorded incident as of yet, because suspect has not found an opponent he could beat.
TaG]SiG
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom53 Posts
July 20 2010 22:40 GMT
#146
ive only been to one lan, but i had to find my own way completely on the assumption that i had a place to stay at someones house i had never met, and only spoken to a couple of times via pm on tl. i had nowhere to stay other than this place and noway of getting home, yet i was confident cause i trusted that it would work out.

im sure others have been in this situation and this kinda story is scary.
Bob300
Profile Joined April 2010
United States505 Posts
July 20 2010 22:55 GMT
#147
The only thing I have to say is the driver should have been banned.

I Really don't blame the other 3 for leaving because I would no want to be left that far away from home, we all know that the only person who can say anything when carpooling is the driver. If he decides to leave someone behind then he is an asshole and deserves to be banned. The other 3 really deserve something, but not a permanent ban. Really the only thing they deserved to get blamed for is not paying for dinner, which is dick, but not enough for a lifetime ban.

But! This is only my 2 cents and my opinion what happed happed and cannot be changed.
NYC Suburbs --- College Freshman --- Season 1 - Drone Whiskey
jackofclubs81
Profile Joined January 2010
United States196 Posts
July 20 2010 22:58 GMT
#148
Things like this really hurt.

It's not just what they did, but also that they blamed it on Dejavu for being a dick.
Really?
You say someone being a dick is an excuse to strand them far away from home and not pay fees?

Im speechless
Odinsphere
Profile Joined July 2010
United States57 Posts
July 20 2010 23:09 GMT
#149
So this was a TL member LAN. Was is more of a "we're going under TL's name" with outside sponsorship? That's what it sounds like but I'm not fully aware. So basically whoever sponsored this even might not see TL the same way? I'd be pissed if I got a ride 400 miles from home and then was left behind. But since I don't know much more than that I can only speculate....
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
July 20 2010 23:15 GMT
#150
The ban's deserved, but posting their pictures in this thread feels kinda low
it's my first day
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
July 20 2010 23:26 GMT
#151
Ero_senin's posts remind me of my old posts... when I was 14 -_-;;
And the LAN didn't go under a Teamliquid name, it was under the TAD name.
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 23:27:40
July 20 2010 23:26 GMT
#152
Hey Ero-Sennin, how about this:

They were the ones who organized the LAN, with hopes of getting sponsored. After it was clear none of them were going to get any prize money they skipped out on paying for the LAN, for the dinner afterwards, and on top of that the organizer-in-chief pocketed $20 from the prize pool. Is this someone you want to be running tournaments in the future? Fuck no.

As for other perspectives, let me give you mine - after the LAN, these kids did NOT look very happy; in fact they were pretty pissed off. If Loudog was REALLY concerned about bus money after getting dropped off, maybe he would have said something along those lines instead of "I don't want to fucking pay $20 to eat shit." If money to get home was really a concern, we would have covered him, end of story.

The money for the LAN center couldn't be squared away at the beginning because that's the way the LAN center works - you pay out when you leave by computer number and name. Semih and Loudog left early, and left the responsibility of paying to someone else; when Semih was asked by duckett AT DINNER he lied about his name; Loudog never even bothered to give his. That little bit of confusion was soon cleared up, and they ended up paying Suppy $8 each, since the LAN was so kind to drop the price off of one. Maybe if he asked for $16 each he would have gotten $16 each.

Quite frankly I think I'd be pretty bummed out if I drove 400 miles out to lose in a tournament of my own organization and spend ~$40 per person, not including gas money and several hours driving. At the same time I don't think I would have chosen such a course of action myself unless I was aware that I could lose, especially since it seemed like they took for granted that they'd win back all their money given how angry they were.

But, this honestly isn't about getting rid of a bunch of angry nerds who wouldn't pay. Nerdrage happens. This is about respect and responsibility, and the fact that actions have consequences. We're not in a position to say their actions were justified/not in their minds, because I'm sure we can sit here and argue about whether or not their actions were justifiable or understandable. We ARE in a position to say what kind of shit doesn't fly around at TL and in the SC community at large.

Behavior like this shouldn't be tolerated.

EDIT: And to say NOTHING about Deja's situation.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
July 20 2010 23:36 GMT
#153
I'm just glad Conan won and not Semih or nnilf. And I don't buy the whole "Deja was being a dick" excuse. If anyone looked kinda shady at that lan, it was those guilty three
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 20 2010 23:48 GMT
#154
Update


So I talked with the manager of Soul Pc World. I let them know about the situation and how it wasn't an accident. They have been Perma banned from the center (not that they would go back) But a police report will be filed as well.

Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 00:02:50
July 20 2010 23:52 GMT
#155
Wow what a bunch of fucking assholes. Sooner or later this kinda stuff will catch up with them by fucking with the wrong person haha.
sas01
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada303 Posts
July 20 2010 23:55 GMT
#156
Man I totally feel sorry for Dejavu.... I heard the audio clip and loudog totally didnt care wat happend to him!!
Such a crappy situation to be in!! (plus the bad bus ride back)
Also, loudog admitted to trying to avoid paying for some of the things... just seems like a total Douchebag
TT hope nothing like this ever happens again!
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
July 21 2010 00:19 GMT
#157
God I loved the part where storr's dad hopped on. These guys are such losers, hope they get some real life shit thrown their way.
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
July 21 2010 00:22 GMT
#158
lol here is wat really happened

TADmilf tried to orgo a tournament for his friend semih to win, thats why he insisted on an entry fee and sponsor for 1st. when semih choked and lost all of them got pissed and took it out on everyone else

maybe practice harder next time bros
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7802 Posts
July 21 2010 00:24 GMT
#159
Wow just listened to the mp3. What a huge douchebag. Takes no responsibility for his actions, sounds like a little punk to me. Glad he and his friends are out
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 00:34:38
July 21 2010 00:33 GMT
#160
baller pretty much nailed it. Everything was fine till Semih lost to Lastshadow. Semih vs Lastshadow game 3..."the game that sent shockwaves through the community"
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