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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 03:21:47
December 30 2010 03:18 GMT
#4401
On December 30 2010 07:02 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 06:47 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On December 30 2010 06:31 sJarl wrote:
On December 30 2010 02:03 funkie wrote:
On December 29 2010 20:46 sJarl wrote:
On December 29 2010 19:03 Snipemare wrote:
Only on team liquid will you have a post like this :D!

So I am 20 weigh 165 and am currently benching 300 even. As of late I have been having some shoulder issues and was wondering if anyone could give me some good rotator cuff workouts? Workout details plus set/rep count I should be achieving please.

If anyone cares would like a killer chest workout PM me and ill give you the workout the bumped my max bench from 185 to 245 in 3months.


I'm liking Scarecrows for just general shoulder health:


Just pick a very light weight and do plenty of reps



Good shit. Going to start doing them today :D! Thankkksss

Any other good rehab rotator cuff exercises?


fter a Really good workout Today, shit im so High. Ill try ti post my nunvera but im bot Making promises xD:

SQUAT 95kg
B. PRESS 70kg (10kg up from last)
Deadlift 100kg 1x5 and loaded 20kg more and dis one jus tO See the look on pelones faces xD


After a Really good workout Today, shit im so High. Ill try ti post my nunvera but im bot Making promises xD:

SQUAT 95kg
B. PRESS 70kg (10kg up from last)
Deadlift 100kg 1x5 and loaded 20kg more and dis one jus tO See the look on pelones faces xD!

Nothing I can name really. I just pick up a pair of 2.5kg plates and wave my arms around before bench or shoulder press days.


I just imagined that and couldn't help but smile.

"what are you doing bro?"
"ROTATOR CUFFS WRAAARRRGGHHHH" *flails wildly*

rofl! I almost covered my monitor in pizza :D

CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
CoMaS
Profile Joined December 2010
United States39 Posts
December 30 2010 03:22 GMT
#4402
On December 30 2010 11:30 Slithe wrote:
If I had to venture a guess, most of the veterans here are going to recommend taking out pretty much everything, except the big lifts (e.g. squat/deadlift/bench).

But then again, it also depends on what your goal is. Are you trying to gain some kind of functional strength, or are you trying to be a body builder and primarily going for looks?

going for building muscle, not really interested in gaining fast strength.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11111 Posts
December 30 2010 03:39 GMT
#4403
It should be a crime to have a gym with only 1 power rack. -.- Stupid 24hour fitness.

Bleh. Some other guy ended up using them for most of my alloted time with my bad luck. Fortunately, the guy was pretty beastly. Looked like he did something in the 270ies to 300s. Ended up just biking benching and doing some pullups.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20170 Posts
December 30 2010 06:34 GMT
#4404
In those videos you posted one of the lifters CJ 170kg at 56kg which would beat the current world record by 2kg...

On December 30 2010 12:39 Sabu113 wrote:
It should be a crime to have a gym with only 1 power rack. -.- Stupid 24hour fitness.

Bleh. Some other guy ended up using them for most of my alloted time with my bad luck. Fortunately, the guy was pretty beastly. Looked like he did something in the 270ies to 300s. Ended up just biking benching and doing some pullups.


Ahhh that sucks. Go find a real gym :D Also, use the bar from the bench to do some overhead squats or deadlifts or hack squats. Never need to skip a leg day Also, keep at it and you'll be in the "beast zone" of 270+ too easy. Hell funkie should be there any day now.

On December 30 2010 11:30 Slithe wrote:
If I had to venture a guess, most of the veterans here are going to recommend taking out pretty much everything, except the big lifts (e.g. squat/deadlift/bench).

But then again, it also depends on what your goal is. Are you trying to gain some kind of functional strength, or are you trying to be a body builder and primarily going for looks?


Yeah as long as he's not a beginner and wants to train for size that routine looks fine. If i started bodybuilding i'd probably just grab the latest split out of muscle and fitness lol.

how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 30 2010 13:46 GMT
#4405
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 30 2010 10:57 CoMaS wrote:
Hows this BBing split?

MON (QUADS/BICEPS):
Squat - 4 Sets-12,10,8,6
Hack squat - 4 Sets-12,10,8,6
DB Step-up - 4 Sets-12,10,8,6
Chin-up - 4 Sets- 10,10,10,10
Preacher curls - 3 Sets- 10,8,6
Alternating hammer curl- 3 Sets - 10,8,6

TUE (CHEST/CALVES)
Incline dumbbell bench - 4 Sets- 12,10,8,6
BB Bench press - 4 Sets-12,10,8,6
Chest Dips - 4 Sets- 10,10,10,10
Standing raise - 4 Sets-15,15,15,15

WEDN REST DAY

THUR (BACK/HAMSTRINGS)
Leg curl - 4 Sets- 12,12,12,12
Deadlift - 3 Sets- 5,5,5,5 (believe it or not, but my back actually grows more with lower reps for DL)
BB bent-over row - 4 Sets- 12,10,8,6
Wide-grip pull-up(weighted) - 4 Sets- 10,10,10,10
Cable rows - 4 Sets- 12,10,8,6

I felt like I need to hit back especially hard so thats why I added cable rows on top of bent-over rows and wide-grip pull-ups.

FRIDAY (DELTOIDS/TRAPS/TRI'S)
Press - 4 Sets- 12,10,8,6
Prone reverse flys - 4 Sets- 12,10,8,6
Dumbbell Shrug - 3 Sets - 10,10,10,10
Lying Tricep Extension - 3 Sets- 10,8,6
Rope Tricep Extension - 3 Sets- 12,10,8

critique it? what would you add/take out?



@Comas: Some suggestions...

On the quad/biceps day: maybe drop the db step ups and add leg press. I always love those for my quads. BB curls are imo the best biceps builder.

On the chest/calves day: I always like to do the BB BP before the incline db press. Just a personal preference.

Back/hams: Deads before leg curls. I doubt you have the need to pre-exhaust your hams before a set of heavy deads. Maybe add some good mornings or stiff leg deads since I feel your hams are getting the least of your love.

Delts/tris: maybe add a straight bar / v-grip pressdowns. I love those.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
December 30 2010 14:21 GMT
#4406
On December 29 2010 10:17 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2010 20:46 Necosarius wrote:
On December 28 2010 09:29 decafchicken wrote:
On December 28 2010 07:29 Necosarius wrote:
What are overhead squats good for ? They looks kinda awesome :o

What aren't they good for? Seriously thy are hard as Fuck

I was hoping for some Overhead squat vs regular squat, some info for the overhead squat, if other lifts benefits from doing OHS etc etc I know they are hard, I tried them before. Dare I say this... but I'm getting pretty tired of doing squats 3 times/week for month.


Rape your core and stability. Not as much leg power but still awesome for your whole body. I would supplement your regular squats with them.

Sounds awesome, I like it when my core is getting raped (that sounded so wrong...).

And I voted for 500 DL, fucking manly!
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
December 30 2010 18:08 GMT
#4407
So... ive decided to take the plunge and start ss for the new years :D

My issue is just that I'm used to going to the gym 4-5 days a week - usually doing cardio every day too - and rest on weekends, so really I was just hesitant because I *like* spending alot of time at the gym

Just for reference, where do people start looking after they've hit a wall with ss?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 30 2010 18:18 GMT
#4408
Advanced novice or intermediate program usually... periodized spin on barbell work.

If you wanted to start adding in isolations that's OK I suppose... still don't need them though.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 30 2010 21:28 GMT
#4409
Shit workout today. Felt weak and all that jazz...this half assed eating i've been doin the last couple of weeks isn't going to work anymore.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 30 2010 23:06 GMT
#4410
On December 30 2010 22:46 sJarl wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 30 2010 10:57 CoMaS wrote:
Hows this BBing split?

MON (QUADS/BICEPS):
Squat - 4 Sets-12,10,8,6
Hack squat - 4 Sets-12,10,8,6
DB Step-up - 4 Sets-12,10,8,6
Chin-up - 4 Sets- 10,10,10,10
Preacher curls - 3 Sets- 10,8,6
Alternating hammer curl- 3 Sets - 10,8,6

TUE (CHEST/CALVES)
Incline dumbbell bench - 4 Sets- 12,10,8,6
BB Bench press - 4 Sets-12,10,8,6
Chest Dips - 4 Sets- 10,10,10,10
Standing raise - 4 Sets-15,15,15,15

WEDN REST DAY

THUR (BACK/HAMSTRINGS)
Leg curl - 4 Sets- 12,12,12,12
Deadlift - 3 Sets- 5,5,5,5 (believe it or not, but my back actually grows more with lower reps for DL)
BB bent-over row - 4 Sets- 12,10,8,6
Wide-grip pull-up(weighted) - 4 Sets- 10,10,10,10
Cable rows - 4 Sets- 12,10,8,6

I felt like I need to hit back especially hard so thats why I added cable rows on top of bent-over rows and wide-grip pull-ups.

FRIDAY (DELTOIDS/TRAPS/TRI'S)
Press - 4 Sets- 12,10,8,6
Prone reverse flys - 4 Sets- 12,10,8,6
Dumbbell Shrug - 3 Sets - 10,10,10,10
Lying Tricep Extension - 3 Sets- 10,8,6
Rope Tricep Extension - 3 Sets- 12,10,8

critique it? what would you add/take out?



@Comas: Some suggestions...

Back/hams: Deads before leg curls. I doubt you have the need to pre-exhaust your hams before a set of heavy deads. Maybe add some good mornings or stiff leg deads since I feel your hams are getting the least of your love.


Good catch, definitely start with deadlifts, you don't want to be tired going into them. Also, a great hamstring builder is the glute-ham raise; barring that, weighted hyperextensions work too
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 30 2010 23:08 GMT
#4411
Also, quick question. The olympic guy showed me an exercise where you hang from a bar, swing upside down so your knees are between the bar and your body, and then raise up and down using your core. What's this called? It rapes me
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 23:33:09
December 30 2010 23:29 GMT
#4412
On December 31 2010 08:08 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Also, quick question. The olympic guy showed me an exercise where you hang from a bar, swing upside down so your knees are between the bar and your body, and then raise up and down using your core. What's this called? It rapes me


im not 100% sure i get what u are saying

so u get into a tuck front lever position

http://www.garagegymnast.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/tuck-front-lever.jpg

and then move your butt towards the bar, and back down, and repeat?

or are you pulling your body up with your arms? (tuck front lever pullups)

or is just moving into the tuck front lever position the "up" part and then u go back down and repeat, etc etc?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
December 30 2010 23:30 GMT
#4413
windshield wipers?
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 30 2010 23:36 GMT
#4414
On December 31 2010 08:29 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 08:08 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Also, quick question. The olympic guy showed me an exercise where you hang from a bar, swing upside down so your knees are between the bar and your body, and then raise up and down using your core. What's this called? It rapes me


im not 100% sure i get what u are saying

so u get into a tuck front lever position

http://www.garagegymnast.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/tuck-front-lever.jpg

and then move your butt towards the bar, and back down, and repeat?

or are you pulling your body up with your arms? (tuck front lever pullups)

or is just moving into the tuck front lever position the "up" part and then u go back down and repeat, etc etc?


tuck front lever pullups sound about right. pretty much spot on, actually.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 30 2010 23:41 GMT
#4415
On December 31 2010 08:36 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 08:29 travis wrote:
On December 31 2010 08:08 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Also, quick question. The olympic guy showed me an exercise where you hang from a bar, swing upside down so your knees are between the bar and your body, and then raise up and down using your core. What's this called? It rapes me


im not 100% sure i get what u are saying

so u get into a tuck front lever position

http://www.garagegymnast.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/tuck-front-lever.jpg

and then move your butt towards the bar, and back down, and repeat?

or are you pulling your body up with your arms? (tuck front lever pullups)

or is just moving into the tuck front lever position the "up" part and then u go back down and repeat, etc etc?


tuck front lever pullups sound about right. pretty much spot on, actually.


ok so you are staying in a tuck position the entire time and pulling your knees/body towards the bar? if so then yeah that's tuck front lever pullups
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20170 Posts
December 30 2010 23:46 GMT
#4416
Gym closed. I think i'm going to cry.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 30 2010 23:46 GMT
#4417
On December 31 2010 08:46 decafchicken wrote:
Gym closed. I think i'm going to cry.


the one u were going to for oly lifting? -.-
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 31 2010 00:05 GMT
#4418
On December 31 2010 08:41 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 08:36 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On December 31 2010 08:29 travis wrote:
On December 31 2010 08:08 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Also, quick question. The olympic guy showed me an exercise where you hang from a bar, swing upside down so your knees are between the bar and your body, and then raise up and down using your core. What's this called? It rapes me


im not 100% sure i get what u are saying

so u get into a tuck front lever position

http://www.garagegymnast.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/tuck-front-lever.jpg

and then move your butt towards the bar, and back down, and repeat?

or are you pulling your body up with your arms? (tuck front lever pullups)

or is just moving into the tuck front lever position the "up" part and then u go back down and repeat, etc etc?


tuck front lever pullups sound about right. pretty much spot on, actually.


ok so you are staying in a tuck position the entire time and pulling your knees/body towards the bar? if so then yeah that's tuck front lever pullups


that's exactly it. the day after i first did them my core was sore like i'd been punched by decaf.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20170 Posts
December 31 2010 00:25 GMT
#4419
On December 31 2010 08:46 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 08:46 decafchicken wrote:
Gym closed. I think i'm going to cry.


the one u were going to for oly lifting? -.-


My high school gym is closed probably till monday. was hoping to get big workout in before the new year
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 31 2010 00:39 GMT
#4420
On December 31 2010 09:25 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 08:46 travis wrote:
On December 31 2010 08:46 decafchicken wrote:
Gym closed. I think i'm going to cry.


the one u were going to for oly lifting? -.-


My high school gym is closed probably till monday. was hoping to get big workout in before the new year


LOL
you seemed sooo devastated, and its just closed till monday
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