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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
December 29 2010 09:21 GMT
#4381
hey guys

I've been following this thread for quite a while and now I wanted to ask you experts a question!

I've been working out for a year now and made some considerable progress (dropped about 20kg from 95kg to 75, now back up at 80ish because of creatine and holiday eating disasters height: 177cm = about 5'9'') but I never followed a real training "program"

normally I go to the gym 5-6 times a week and just work one or two areas (like shoulders + chest, biceps + triceps, legs) each session. but now I feel that my progress has become kinda stagnant the past few weeks.. some stats (personal bests): bench 5x75kg, squat 12x70kg (just started doing squats a couple of weeks ago), deadlift: 5x125kg

I have exams coming up the next 2 weeks so I wont really have time to hit the gym alot, but after that I thought about picking up SS and really follow that program strictly. does that make sense? or should I pick up some other program? or just continue my own "loosely structured" program?

every piece of advice is muchly appreciated!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 29 2010 09:44 GMT
#4382
Zafrumi, definitely go with SS, it gets mentioned in every second post for a reason
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
December 29 2010 09:56 GMT
#4383
I've been basically doing SS recently after getting back into weights, but I have been adding in various exercises on top of the 3 per workout as I am used to doing more as I worked out 4-5 times a week before I started college.

I look at starting strength as the foundation for building a balanced workout and then I have added an exercise for each workout that I vary so that I make sure to hit everything in a week without taking from my progress in gains that the program is designed for.

Eventually I'm just going to transition into a 4 a week program similar to what I used to do where I do a lot more different exercises in general. I've also upped my caloric intake and am getting all my macro nutrients so I'm feeling pretty comfortable restarting my workout program and I can't wait to see how the results turn out compared to my high school results.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Snipemare
Profile Joined December 2010
United States20 Posts
December 29 2010 10:03 GMT
#4384
Only on team liquid will you have a post like this :D!

So I am 20 weigh 165 and am currently benching 300 even. As of late I have been having some shoulder issues and was wondering if anyone could give me some good rotator cuff workouts? Workout details plus set/rep count I should be achieving please.

If anyone cares would like a killer chest workout PM me and ill give you the workout the bumped my max bench from 185 to 245 in 3months.
If you stand fro nothing, you will fall for anything.
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
December 29 2010 10:44 GMT
#4385
Im on vacation in Thailand now, but still take some time to work out. Rode 30 km on the bike today, great fun in the heat.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 29 2010 11:46 GMT
#4386
On December 29 2010 19:03 Snipemare wrote:
Only on team liquid will you have a post like this :D!

So I am 20 weigh 165 and am currently benching 300 even. As of late I have been having some shoulder issues and was wondering if anyone could give me some good rotator cuff workouts? Workout details plus set/rep count I should be achieving please.

If anyone cares would like a killer chest workout PM me and ill give you the workout the bumped my max bench from 185 to 245 in 3months.


I'm liking Scarecrows for just general shoulder health:


Just pick a very light weight and do plenty of reps
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
December 29 2010 17:03 GMT
#4387
On December 29 2010 20:46 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 19:03 Snipemare wrote:
Only on team liquid will you have a post like this :D!

So I am 20 weigh 165 and am currently benching 300 even. As of late I have been having some shoulder issues and was wondering if anyone could give me some good rotator cuff workouts? Workout details plus set/rep count I should be achieving please.

If anyone cares would like a killer chest workout PM me and ill give you the workout the bumped my max bench from 185 to 245 in 3months.


I'm liking Scarecrows for just general shoulder health: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY0TMsw7W74

Just pick a very light weight and do plenty of reps



Good shit. Going to start doing them today :D! Thankkksss

Any other good rehab rotator cuff exercises?
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
BoX
Profile Joined July 2003
United States214 Posts
December 29 2010 18:37 GMT
#4388
On December 29 2010 05:20 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 05:15 BoX wrote:
Love this thread. Been following it for a long time.

I started training in May 2010 @ 6'4" tall weighing 185lb. I've been busting my ass at it 5 days a week ever since. I started out pretty dumb; not eating enough and form was shit. After a month or two of lazy research, I got myself set up on a clean ~4000cal/day diet and form is excellent. I'm 210lbs today with a slightly lower BF than the day I started :D

Just wanted to say thanks to the guys in this thread who seem to be human bodybuilding encyclopedias :D


Damn well done. Post strength stats?


Thanks!

My lifts started at: Bench 5x 115, Squat 5x 135, DL 5x 135
I'm currently at: Bench 5x 185lb, Squat 5 x 225lb, Deadlift 5x 225lb

Pretty sure I'd kill myself if I tried the shit I've been seeing in this thread lately though.. Snatch's and stuff.

decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
December 29 2010 18:49 GMT
#4389
Just realized Thursday will be my last day to lift this year. Obviously I should try to deadlift 500. RAWR
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
December 29 2010 20:34 GMT
#4390
You will now feel weak







eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 20:56:55
December 29 2010 20:56 GMT
#4391
I thought weight lifting isnt healthy when youre still in puberty... well impressive though
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 29 2010 21:02 GMT
#4392
On December 30 2010 05:56 Zafrumi wrote:
I thought weight lifting isnt healthy when youre still in puberty... well impressive though


Fitness myth
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 21:34:43
December 29 2010 21:31 GMT
#4393
On December 30 2010 02:03 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 20:46 sJarl wrote:
On December 29 2010 19:03 Snipemare wrote:
Only on team liquid will you have a post like this :D!

So I am 20 weigh 165 and am currently benching 300 even. As of late I have been having some shoulder issues and was wondering if anyone could give me some good rotator cuff workouts? Workout details plus set/rep count I should be achieving please.

If anyone cares would like a killer chest workout PM me and ill give you the workout the bumped my max bench from 185 to 245 in 3months.


I'm liking Scarecrows for just general shoulder health: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY0TMsw7W74

Just pick a very light weight and do plenty of reps



Good shit. Going to start doing them today :D! Thankkksss

Any other good rehab rotator cuff exercises?


Nothing I can name really. I just pick up a pair of 2.5kg plates and wave my arms around before bench or shoulder press days.

You could on the other hand go to exrx.net and check out the exercise & muscle directory looking for the rotator cuff muscles (supraspinatus, infraspinatus and subscapularis). There you can find the function of the muscles. Pick up some weights (or not) and do the movement

@BoX: Nice progress but I believe you only began a long journey. Keep progressing!

EDIT: Today's workout:

Went and played badminton for an hour with my old practice partner. It's been over 11 months since I last played because of my knee injuries. Felt awesome to be back on the court. Hopefully we'll find a spare time tomorrow to play some more :D
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 29 2010 21:47 GMT
#4394
On December 30 2010 06:31 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 02:03 funkie wrote:
On December 29 2010 20:46 sJarl wrote:
On December 29 2010 19:03 Snipemare wrote:
Only on team liquid will you have a post like this :D!

So I am 20 weigh 165 and am currently benching 300 even. As of late I have been having some shoulder issues and was wondering if anyone could give me some good rotator cuff workouts? Workout details plus set/rep count I should be achieving please.

If anyone cares would like a killer chest workout PM me and ill give you the workout the bumped my max bench from 185 to 245 in 3months.


I'm liking Scarecrows for just general shoulder health: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY0TMsw7W74

Just pick a very light weight and do plenty of reps



Good shit. Going to start doing them today :D! Thankkksss

Any other good rehab rotator cuff exercises?


Nothing I can name really. I just pick up a pair of 2.5kg plates and wave my arms around before bench or shoulder press days.


I just imagined that and couldn't help but smile.

"what are you doing bro?"
"ROTATOR CUFFS WRAAARRRGGHHHH" *flails wildly*
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 29 2010 22:02 GMT
#4395
On December 30 2010 06:47 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 06:31 sJarl wrote:
On December 30 2010 02:03 funkie wrote:
On December 29 2010 20:46 sJarl wrote:
On December 29 2010 19:03 Snipemare wrote:
Only on team liquid will you have a post like this :D!

So I am 20 weigh 165 and am currently benching 300 even. As of late I have been having some shoulder issues and was wondering if anyone could give me some good rotator cuff workouts? Workout details plus set/rep count I should be achieving please.

If anyone cares would like a killer chest workout PM me and ill give you the workout the bumped my max bench from 185 to 245 in 3months.


I'm liking Scarecrows for just general shoulder health: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY0TMsw7W74

Just pick a very light weight and do plenty of reps



Good shit. Going to start doing them today :D! Thankkksss

Any other good rehab rotator cuff exercises?


Nothing I can name really. I just pick up a pair of 2.5kg plates and wave my arms around before bench or shoulder press days.


I just imagined that and couldn't help but smile.

"what are you doing bro?"
"ROTATOR CUFFS WRAAARRRGGHHHH" *flails wildly*

rofl! I almost covered my monitor in pizza :D
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
December 30 2010 01:12 GMT
#4396
Bench has gone up from 275 to 295 since i started olympic lifting and stopped benching. Funny eh? :-p This is the third or fourth time i've approached 300 and mysteriously been injured, if it happens again i know there is a conspiracy and probably never bench again...
Did some cleans up to 245 just trying to work on keeping my hips low and finishing my pull (why is this so hard, esp without jumping T_T)

Trying to figure out what to try to do tomorrow for my last workout of the year...
Poll: Last workout attempt?

Deadlift 5 plates (495 or 500) (7)
 
88%

Snatch 2 plates (225) (1)
 
13%

Clean 3 plates (315) (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Last workout attempt?

(Vote): Deadlift 5 plates (495 or 500)
(Vote): Snatch 2 plates (225)
(Vote): Clean 3 plates (315)



Last option sounds like something women do in a kitchen.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 30 2010 01:30 GMT
#4397
Voted for 500 deadlift. Second option would be 2 plate Snatch.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
CoMaS
Profile Joined December 2010
United States39 Posts
December 30 2010 01:57 GMT
#4398
Hows this BBing split?

MON (QUADS/BICEPS):
Squat - 4 Sets-12,10,8,6
Hack squat - 4 Sets-12,10,8,6
DB Step-up - 4 Sets-12,10,8,6
Chin-up - 4 Sets- 10,10,10,10
Preacher curls - 3 Sets- 10,8,6
Alternating hammer curl- 3 Sets - 10,8,6

TUE (CHEST/CALVES)
Incline dumbbell bench - 4 Sets- 12,10,8,6
BB Bench press - 4 Sets-12,10,8,6
Chest Dips - 4 Sets- 10,10,10,10
Standing raise - 4 Sets-15,15,15,15

WEDN REST DAY

THUR (BACK/HAMSTRINGS)
Leg curl - 4 Sets- 12,12,12,12
Deadlift - 3 Sets- 5,5,5,5 (believe it or not, but my back actually grows more with lower reps for DL)
BB bent-over row - 4 Sets- 12,10,8,6
Wide-grip pull-up(weighted) - 4 Sets- 10,10,10,10
Cable rows - 4 Sets- 12,10,8,6

I felt like I need to hit back especially hard so thats why I added cable rows on top of bent-over rows and wide-grip pull-ups.

FRIDAY (DELTOIDS/TRAPS/TRI'S)
Press - 4 Sets- 12,10,8,6
Prone reverse flys - 4 Sets- 12,10,8,6
Dumbbell Shrug - 3 Sets - 10,10,10,10
Lying Tricep Extension - 3 Sets- 10,8,6
Rope Tricep Extension - 3 Sets- 12,10,8

critique it? what would you add/take out?
Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
December 30 2010 02:30 GMT
#4399
If I had to venture a guess, most of the veterans here are going to recommend taking out pretty much everything, except the big lifts (e.g. squat/deadlift/bench).

But then again, it also depends on what your goal is. Are you trying to gain some kind of functional strength, or are you trying to be a body builder and primarily going for looks?
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 30 2010 02:35 GMT
#4400
On December 30 2010 11:30 Slithe wrote:
If I had to venture a guess, most of the veterans here are going to recommend taking out pretty much everything, except the big lifts (e.g. squat/deadlift/bench).

But then again, it also depends on what your goal is. Are you trying to gain some kind of functional strength, or are you trying to be a body builder and primarily going for looks?


If you're not a beginner, I don't see any problems with trying out a bodybuilding split. As long as you have a solid strength base (built from bench/squat/deadlift), where you go from there is entirely your choice.
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