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Who are all the Mario and Luigi pairs in DotA?

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Aron Times
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 19:23:24
June 06 2015 19:22 GMT
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So I mentioned in another thread that teampick used to be the default game mode in DotA, and was actually the one used for competitive matches back in the day. Sentinel (Radiant) players had to pick Sentinel heroes and Scourge (Dire) players had to pick Scourge heroes. This meant that heroes had to be balanced not just individually but also with the rest of their faction (some heroes were OP/UP because to for their factions' other heroes).

Because there are some roles that each side needs to win, early DotA had a lot of Mario and Luigi pairs on both sides:

1. Crystal Maiden and Lich - Nukes that slow the enemy, and easy access to mana. Since Rylai is on the good guys' side, she gives mana to allies around her (her aura wasn't global back then). On the other hand, since Lich is evil, he takes mana for himself but also denies XP and gold to the enemy.

2. Sven and Wraith King - Tanks with stuns.

3. Lina and Lion - Nuke, stun, and supernuke.

4. Riki and Phantom Assassin - Invisibility. Riki was invisible but decloaked when attacking, while PA was completely invisible save for her shadow ingame but was fully visible on the minimap. You could see her minimap dot clearly and she could be auto attacked and even clicked on, but her model wasn't rendered ingame at Blur 4.

I know there were many, many more mirrored pairs in DotA who have since radically diverged from their good/evil counterparts, but my search-fu fails me. What few links I could find were to really old, defunct sites.

Also, in RoC DotA, the entire hero lineup was mirrored on both sides. My first main hero, Purity's Disciple, had a Scourge counterpart with identical abilities.

Anyway, does anyone else know which other hero pairs exist?
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TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
June 06 2015 23:06 GMT
#2
On June 07 2015 04:22 Eternal Dalek wrote:
I know there were many, many more mirrored pairs in DotA who have since radically diverged from their good/evil counterparts, but my search-fu fails me. What few links I could find were to really old, defunct sites.


Can't you download some older version of DotA and test it? I don't even have WCIII right now to do it otherwise I'd do it.
Aron Times
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
June 07 2015 05:07 GMT
#3
On June 07 2015 08:06 TiTanIum_ wrote:
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On June 07 2015 04:22 Eternal Dalek wrote:
I know there were many, many more mirrored pairs in DotA who have since radically diverged from their good/evil counterparts, but my search-fu fails me. What few links I could find were to really old, defunct sites.


Can't you download some older version of DotA and test it? I don't even have WCIII right now to do it otherwise I'd do it.

Same as you. Also, I'd have to hunt down old patches so I can run the very old versions of DotA. I don't think the new Battle.net installer will even let me install a clean 1.00 version of RoC.

It's not really that big of a deal, just something I'm curious about, which is why I didn't go through all of the trouble of finding out myself. I was hoping that someone here would know more, so I wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel and do the research myself.
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