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lazyitachi
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
1043 Posts
December 12 2012 03:25 GMT
#4901
On December 12 2012 12:18 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 12:14 sandyph wrote:
close games, were slightly ahead
then our invoker DC and dont come back, immediately everybody leave

why cant people understand that when its a close game, being 4v5 actually advantageous as long as the game dont drag on too long


Ummm...

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 12:08 lazyitachi wrote:
3 game losing streak finally broken!!

I HATE INVOKER... I have no fuckin idea what m I doing when I am playing invoker.. doesnt help when my teammates are clueless too. :S
GG game... no return


Coincidence?


Nope.. I dont leave game ever.. just get stomped if I get heroes I sux max with...
:3
My game was not even close.... not even... close......
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
December 12 2012 04:40 GMT
#4902
Had an Undying on my team yesterday that maxed Decay and Soul-rip before Tombstone...
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
December 12 2012 05:33 GMT
#4903
On December 12 2012 12:18 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 12:14 sandyph wrote:
close games, were slightly ahead
then our invoker DC and dont come back, immediately everybody leave

why cant people understand that when its a close game, being 4v5 actually advantageous as long as the game dont drag on too long


Ummm...

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 12:08 lazyitachi wrote:
3 game losing streak finally broken!!

I HATE INVOKER... I have no fuckin idea what m I doing when I am playing invoker.. doesnt help when my teammates are clueless too. :S
GG game... no return


Coincidence?


nah, my Invoker were Russian
Put quote here for readability
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
December 12 2012 05:56 GMT
#4904
On December 12 2012 13:40 Enzymatic wrote:
Had an Undying on my team yesterday that maxed Decay and Soul-rip before Tombstone...


Next level skill builds yo! I should try that as a troll build next time.

I am a bad Undying for first point Tombstone instead of decay. Yeah despite all the pro-games commentators saying Decay first point for Undying, Tombstone works much better for me

Then i proceed to roam getting kills everytime tombstone is off cooldown.

I solo-Q quite often, and i hate being the only one who apparently knows what wards are. Yeah im exclusively playing in the High games. Nowadays i buy wards even as a carry....just to protect myself in the Safe lane for farming.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 08:02:37
December 12 2012 07:56 GMT
#4905
Fuck these 5-man stacks try-harding it up doing tri-lanes in AP games. Go play fucking captains mode pussies.. Christ some of these people are desperate for wins.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
AbuseYouMerc
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands171 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 08:17:28
December 12 2012 08:16 GMT
#4906
The only thing you learn from going solo-queue is that you want to murder an orphanage.

I should just stick to playing at least with one teammate, so we can crush a lane and snowball, because if you're alone, you might get people who pick pudge sidelane and proceed to think they are a carry.

When you then politely ask for the farm so you can actually carry the game mid/late. He goes into a screaming rampage. Needless to say we lost, hard. Carry pudge yo!

The saddest part of this all is that im in the 'very high' skill bracket. And probably in the mid/top range of that. I have NO clue how idiots like that pudge get into the bracket, but by the fucking gods... Its annoying.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
December 12 2012 08:26 GMT
#4907
On December 12 2012 16:56 Enzymatic wrote:
Fuck these 5-man stacks try-harding it up doing tri-lanes in AP games. Go play fucking captains mode pussies.. Christ some of these people are desperate for wins.

What's the problem? If I'm playin premade we're doing trilane 75% of the time, it's so fun to stomp poor people :D
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Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
December 12 2012 08:31 GMT
#4908
On December 12 2012 17:26 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 16:56 Enzymatic wrote:
Fuck these 5-man stacks try-harding it up doing tri-lanes in AP games. Go play fucking captains mode pussies.. Christ some of these people are desperate for wins.

What's the problem? If I'm playin premade we're doing trilane 75% of the time, it's so fun to stomp poor people :D


Trilane and tryhard all you want. just dont pick top tier heroes with you do it. pick fun heroes. nobody wants to vs sven rubick leshrac, ta, darkseer. you can literally build 5 refreshers and still win the game with that line up.
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 08:43:50
December 12 2012 08:41 GMT
#4909
Captains mode game, i get sven and get sent bottom with SS.

SS decides he's the carry and the boss of the game, starts taking all my farm and just tells everyone to push the shit out of the lanes. We get bot tower. Mid falls in 15 minutes. Bot follows after 15 more minutes. Except the problem is, I'm the carry on our team, and SS has taken all my farm and I've got nothing. Drums. Not even BKB. Any farm I do get is flamed the hell out of by SS and the WR on our team who thinks that the push strat is a good idea. Now all of a sudden we're up against a void, a qop and a bh all with ridiculous farm since we've been suicide pushing down the raxes all game. SS still thinks, np, we just keep pushing. Literally tells me, "sven you don't need any farm sir".

In the end, we get wiped 10 times in a row by this void who just chrono's in on one of us, and bashes the shit outta everyone. We have had 3 rax down the entire game, but can't end it because we went all in with the push strat and failed. Finally to top it all off at the end of the game, WR starts flaming me for "3-12-7 sven with no farm", calls me god awful, and tells me never to pick a carry ever again. Except it was captains mode... I was given the carry because no one else picked him up, and couldn't farm because as soon as SS hit lvl 2 lightning, he started spamming it on every creep he could to get all the last hits.

What do you do in these games?

*funny thing is, at the beginning of the game, SS and Rubick are arguing about who will go mid and rubick wins out. Neither end up buying wards in any case. SS is telling everyone the entire game that "he can't afford to buy wards/dust/(insert support item here), so someone else should do it". And so I comment at the very beginning of the game, "This is why I usually play support, can't really trust anyone else to do it lol" God damn was I right.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
December 12 2012 10:01 GMT
#4910
On December 12 2012 17:31 Entertaining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 17:26 739 wrote:
On December 12 2012 16:56 Enzymatic wrote:
Fuck these 5-man stacks try-harding it up doing tri-lanes in AP games. Go play fucking captains mode pussies.. Christ some of these people are desperate for wins.

What's the problem? If I'm playin premade we're doing trilane 75% of the time, it's so fun to stomp poor people :D


Trilane and tryhard all you want. just dont pick top tier heroes with you do it. pick fun heroes. nobody wants to vs sven rubick leshrac, ta, darkseer. you can literally build 5 refreshers and still win the game with that line up.


That would be a fair point if mm wasn't so fucking obnoxious. i actually need to pick hard carry and rice so i can win a game. go tryhard, pick op heroes, do w/e you need to do if you actually want to win game. if valve acts like inconsiderate assholes when it comes to mm system (also hiding mmr is a real dick move), then i'll do the same.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
December 12 2012 10:03 GMT
#4911
Yeah Valve is doing all those things specifically just to be a dick to you.

lol
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Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
December 12 2012 10:15 GMT
#4912
no, not to be a dick to me :/ wtf. mb you should read my post again? considering how long the qq thread is i'd say valve's being a dick to many other people. i'm just saying people can't be expected to consider stuff like "better not pick sven or am, the other team may not have fun" when mm is utter bullshit, that's all.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
December 12 2012 11:02 GMT
#4913
On December 12 2012 19:15 Kabras wrote:
no, not to be a dick to me :/ wtf. mb you should read my post again? considering how long the qq thread is i'd say valve's being a dick to many other people. i'm just saying people can't be expected to consider stuff like "better not pick sven or am, the other team may not have fun" when mm is utter bullshit, that's all.

I don't understand, how do you want MM to work? You want it to match you against worse players so that you can stomp them with "fun" heroes?
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
December 12 2012 11:07 GMT
#4914
.... No, i just want it to be somewhat balanced and not match me with 4 people that literally have 10 times less levels than me and have no idea what they're doing. w/e, you can find a lot more about mm in this very thread if you want specific examples.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
December 12 2012 11:12 GMT
#4915
On December 12 2012 20:07 Kabras wrote:
.... No, i just want it to be somewhat balanced and not match me with 4 people that literally have 10 times less levels than me and have no idea what they're doing. w/e, you can find a lot more about mm in this very thread if you want specific examples.

You were matched with those 4 people because they are of the same level as you, believe it or not. Don't like it? Then stop focusing on others mistakes and improve yourself.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10932 Posts
December 12 2012 11:13 GMT
#4916
My MM seems to be pretty "okish" most of the time. Sometimes you get really unlucky but well... Bigger problem are people just not looking at what is allready picked and get that "random" 3d (or 4th -.-) carry/semi-carry that of course isn't a jungler or anything we actually could reasonably lane...

I think thats the actual power of Darkseer (and Bat) in Pubs... Hardlane, Jungle, Mid... Who cares .
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
December 12 2012 11:30 GMT
#4917
On December 12 2012 20:12 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 20:07 Kabras wrote:
.... No, i just want it to be somewhat balanced and not match me with 4 people that literally have 10 times less levels than me and have no idea what they're doing. w/e, you can find a lot more about mm in this very thread if you want specific examples.

You were matched with those 4 people because they are of the same level as you, believe it or not. Don't like it? Then stop focusing on others mistakes and improve yourself.


hahahaha ur funny =)). thx for the pro advice bro. i know i'm not even good at dota, don't worry, but it's kinda hard to focus on my own mistakes at 2 minutes in when the WR who's "the same level as me rofl" auto attacks like np and fucks up all of PA's farm. i'm not even gonna go into this, it's not worth another second of my time and i honestly couldn't care less about what you think. this is the qq thread, i qq-ed about something, apparently most of what i said flew right over your head and now we're talking about my personal pub games. i'm done, peace.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Prime`Rib
Profile Joined September 2010
United States613 Posts
December 12 2012 11:40 GMT
#4918
Our fist 4 pick: Nyx, Magnatuar, Veno, Drow with Nyx calling mid. WHY THE FUCK THE LAST SCRUB PICK BLOODSEEKER AND DEMAND MID? WHAT THE FUCK? AND THEN YOU RUN YOUSDFSDF FUCKING MOUTH CALLING US PRO? YOU FUCKING DUMBASS MOTHERFUCKEr. FUCK YOU CHAOSLORd. ONLY FAGGOT WOULD CALL THEMSELVES CHAOSLORD. REALLY. FUCK YOU! WASTING FUCKING 35 MINS OF MY FUCKING LIFE TIME DEALING WITH YOUR FUCKING FACE. I HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR SHITTY 24 HOURS IN LP. ACTUALLY, I AM GONNA HOP INTO TIME MACHINE AND GO TELL YOUR MOTHER TO ABORT YOU. YOU FUCKING PIECE OF DOUCHEDICk, Chaoslord. FUCK YOU!

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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 11:53:39
December 12 2012 11:43 GMT
#4919
On December 12 2012 20:12 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 20:07 Kabras wrote:
.... No, i just want it to be somewhat balanced and not match me with 4 people that literally have 10 times less levels than me and have no idea what they're doing. w/e, you can find a lot more about mm in this very thread if you want specific examples.

You were matched with those 4 people because they are of the same level as you, believe it or not. Don't like it? Then stop focusing on others mistakes and improve yourself.


I think most of it comes from selection bias, statistically speaking people will be one of the 2 best player in their team 40% of the time, and they'll have to carry worse players. Where the bias comes into play is that people will remember these games much more than the one where they got carried by better players, and have the impression that they are always matched with terrible players.
It's true though that the MM could be a little bit more consistent, it's not fun when you have a team with a player that has 10 games under his belt and people with 300 games.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
December 12 2012 11:49 GMT
#4920
On December 12 2012 20:43 Jetaap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 20:12 Firebolt145 wrote:
On December 12 2012 20:07 Kabras wrote:
.... No, i just want it to be somewhat balanced and not match me with 4 people that literally have 10 times less levels than me and have no idea what they're doing. w/e, you can find a lot more about mm in this very thread if you want specific examples.

You were matched with those 4 people because they are of the same level as you, believe it or not. Don't like it? Then stop focusing on others mistakes and improve yourself.


I think most of it comes from selection bias, statistically speaking people will be one of the 2 best player in their team 40% of the time, and they'll have carry worse players. Where the bias comes into play is that people will remember these games much more than the one where they got carried by better players, and have the impression that they are always matched with terrible players.
It's true though that the MM could be a little bit more consistent, it's not fun when you have a team with a player that has 10 games under his belt and people with 300 games.

I understand exactly what you're saying. I also fully understand when people come in here shouting about how the game they just played had 4 of the most retarded people ever. What I dislike is when people come in here calling out the entire valve mm system for being crap and always placing you in games where you are better than every one else, which is statistically improbable.
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