EPTPrevious game i had to go hard lane as magnus/undying combo couse RUSBADS buddies aka Warlock/Silencer decided they will carry this game with their amazing rush scepter build on WL and feed 11 times Silencer build.
So yeah, i love Russians.
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Narw
Poland884 Posts
Previous game i had to go hard lane as magnus/undying combo couse RUSBADS buddies aka Warlock/Silencer decided they will carry this game with their amazing rush scepter build on WL and feed 11 times Silencer build. So yeah, i love Russians. | ||
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
On December 11 2012 21:05 Narw wrote: Oh for the love of god how irritated i am. Laning with CK as SD (had to argue at start to go easy lane couse yeah, Lesh/Sk butt buddies wanted that lane). We end vs Undying/Silencer. We are fucking 8-1 vs that lane with CK getting 5 kills before 12 mins mark. CK Farm isn't great couse i can't really leave him alone to do stacking there and undying is gay, but still its 5-0 CK. You could think, well its basicly GG. Well no. Our mega TOP lane feeds their Luna 7-0 :D and dude that randomed Puck have no idea what he is doing which is ok couse it's not retard immune hero, but jesus, if you know you are bad just repick. Then Sand King decides we are retards, start spamming in ruslanguage and afk randomly in fountain. Go fuck yourself. Previous game i had to go hard lane as magnus/undying combo couse RUSBADS buddies aka Warlock/Silencer decided they will carry this game with their amazing rush scepter build on WL and feed 11 times Silencer build. So yeah, i love Russians. so tell me.....where and how should this person learn to play puck? when people are bad with certain heroes they shouldnt be allowed to play htem? you think you can learn puck by playing with bots? and even if he does yous till need alot of practice vs real enemies. its like with the people telling noobs to quit dota because they are so bad. at some point people just have to learn heroes and they will suck with it at first. if you have a problem with such people then just think about getting better yourself so you can reach a higher MMR rating, and the chances of playing with people who dont know shit is decreased | ||
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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
On December 11 2012 21:43 MotherOfRunes wrote: so tell me.....where and how should this person learn to play puck? when people are bad with certain heroes they shouldnt be allowed to play htem? you think you can learn puck by playing with bots? and even if he does yous till need alot of practice vs real enemies. its like with the people telling noobs to quit dota because they are so bad. at some point people just have to learn heroes and they will suck with it at first. if you have a problem with such people then just think about getting better yourself so you can reach a higher MMR rating, and the chances of playing with people who dont know shit is decreased You've just enlightened my day sir !!!! Less whine, more skill and people will have the opponents and allies that they deserve !!! If you're allies are bad, it means you are too coz you're matched with these people ... | ||
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Narw
Poland884 Posts
On December 11 2012 21:43 MotherOfRunes wrote: so tell me.....where and how should this person learn to play puck? when people are bad with certain heroes they shouldnt be allowed to play htem? you think you can learn puck by playing with bots? and even if he does yous till need alot of practice vs real enemies. its like with the people telling noobs to quit dota because they are so bad. at some point people just have to learn heroes and they will suck with it at first. if you have a problem with such people then just think about getting better yourself so you can reach a higher MMR rating, and the chances of playing with people who dont know shit is decreased Some heroes aren't for everyone. If you are bad at Dota, micro, awarness and decision making, you don't pick Puck. We are talking here about dude who went 2-9-3 while taking mid slot and NEVER ganking during laning. So maybe first enigma and wards and when you are able to comprahend that hero you take more complicated stuff. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On December 11 2012 22:26 Narw wrote: Some heroes aren't for everyone. If you are bad at Dota, micro, awarness and decision making, you don't pick Puck. We are talking here about dude who went 2-9-3 while taking mid slot and NEVER ganking during laning. So maybe first enigma and wards and when you are able to comprahend that hero you take more complicated stuff. If you're bad at Dota, micro, awareness and decision making....you practice Dota, micro, awareness and decision making. That generally means you still play heroes even if you're not the best at them You're not gonna get better with a hero by playing other heroes...you practice with that hero. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On December 11 2012 21:43 MotherOfRunes wrote: so tell me.....where and how should this person learn to play puck? when people are bad with certain heroes they shouldnt be allowed to play htem? you think you can learn puck by playing with bots? and even if he does yous till need alot of practice vs real enemies. its like with the people telling noobs to quit dota because they are so bad. at some point people just have to learn heroes and they will suck with it at first. if you have a problem with such people then just think about getting better yourself so you can reach a higher MMR rating, and the chances of playing with people who dont know shit is decreased Player's should learn how to play game. If you understand the basics of the game and basic mechanics, it doesn't matter which hero you played. You may play poor, or decent, or non-optimal but not completely stomped. If someone played really horrible with a hero that never played before, I am pretty sure there is something missing in general skill-wise. You can achieve at least not to feed with a hero that you never played before. | ||
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coko
United Kingdom570 Posts
On December 11 2012 22:40 Laserist wrote: Player's should learn how to play game. If you understand the basics of the game and basic mechanics, it doesn't matter which hero you played. You may play poor, or decent, or non-optimal but not completely stomped. If someone played really horrible with a hero that never played before, I am pretty sure there is something missing in general skill-wise. You can achieve at least not to feed with a hero that you never played before. There is a limit to that, you are playing weak heroes with mana intensive escapes, managing your mana, while still being effective in fights, in lanes is harder when you first play them, do you have enough to go invisible if you attack now, etc. These are learnt by playing THAT hero. Playing against bots can help, but there are so many situations that cannot be learnt from just knowing the mechanics of positioning... | ||
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Avs
Korea (North)857 Posts
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
On December 11 2012 22:40 Laserist wrote: Player's should learn how to play game. If you understand the basics of the game and basic mechanics, it doesn't matter which hero you played. You may play poor, or decent, or non-optimal but not completely stomped. If someone played really horrible with a hero that never played before, I am pretty sure there is something missing in general skill-wise. You can achieve at least not to feed with a hero that you never played before. On December 11 2012 22:26 Narw wrote: Some heroes aren't for everyone. If you are bad at Dota, micro, awarness and decision making, you don't pick Puck. We are talking here about dude who went 2-9-3 while taking mid slot and NEVER ganking during laning. So maybe first enigma and wards and when you are able to comprahend that hero you take more complicated stuff. and where do they learn it? by playing! but seriously. those who QQ about that are in the same skill pool. if you cant get out of the skill pool were people are completly bad, it's your fault. how dare people say things like "if you are not at least "that" good, you are not allowed to play puck, or invoker and chen". who the fuck are you people and why you think you are soo good, that you can can judge about others skill so well that you actually know which heroes should be not allowed to play for them. if you play with them in a pool you are as bad as them. but you only think you are better than most others there, because you only play heroes you can. and some people think "hey maybe i start playing this hero so i wont play him horribly forever". while at first they fuck up more games than you guys, someday there are maybe good with those heroes. but congrats to you other since you manage to stay bad with those heroes forever !!! good job of course some heroes are harder, but you expect valve to put a big sign over invoker saying "you are not allowed to pick this hero, yet" let them fucking learn, and hopefully start to learn yourself all those heroes you are not good with. and if you are sick of noobs, stop being a noob yourself and start climbing in MMR....cheers | ||
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Narw
Poland884 Posts
So yeah, go to Russia and help em learning Meepos when you solo queqe as reward for whinning that i barely mentioned that there was some horrible puck playing my game in QQ thread.. And actually, im gonna call total bullshit on you. Yes, if you are bad at game don't play Puck. It's like trying to learn how to swim by trying to cross the lake. Start with swimming pool, then move up. | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On December 12 2012 04:10 Narw wrote: Those were games in high bracket, whatever that means. I see top streamers still playing with and versus horrible people, becouse it's not hard to get to high or very high if you queqe as stack, so some horrible people that got carried by better teammates then queqe alone and they are still in that bracket and ruin games for others, couse suprise they are terrible and make picks that don't fit their in game skill. So yeah, go to Russia and help em learning Meepos when you solo queqe as reward for whinning that i barely mentioned that there was some horrible puck playing my game in QQ thread.. And actually, im gonna call total bullshit on you. Yes, if you are bad at game don't play Puck. It's like trying to learn how to swim by trying to cross the lake. Start with swimming pool, then move up. not to continue this, but I think his point was you can't judge skill just on one game with that hero. he might have been an awful puck but he could be an awesome TA. It was just a small comment so I'll leave it there. my QQ now. solo queue into CM and get a 4 stack on my team that not only never played CM before, but also apparently had a captain that couldn't read as he didn't know when picks and bans were. Needless to say it was the single most painful game of my life... ended up with a Viper (me, 1st time playing), Zeus, Magnus, Nature's Prophet, and Dark Seer. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Single draft. Pick Razor. Immediately go mid. Guy picks Storm Spirit and goes mid as well. My reaction: "wtf?" His response: "lol Razor isn't a mid, bro". ...seriously? Razor does just fine as mid. And I've done very well on Razor before. However that's WITHOUT having to compete with a Storm Spirit for last hits. Eventually I go top because I'm sick of fighting for it but I'm horribly underfarmed, underlevelled by this point and end up having to compete with a Tidehunter for farm this time against a Juggernaut and Drow. Of course going to be a loss because I'm the strongest carry on our team and am horribly underfarmed thanks to this genius. Give me strength. I'm just thankful our Dazzle dropped so I could quit. Honestly I feel almost like I should have just demanded mid or feed. I hate being a dick but honestly if he'd just buggered off we could have won that game. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34504 Posts
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hooahah
3752 Posts
they were far better than me ._. the other team (russian as well) also played better than me, using wards, farming, teamfighting well, ganking, all that shit did I reach some kinda of pseudo alternate high-skill russian only MMR? | ||
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RoyGBiv_13
United States1275 Posts
On December 12 2012 08:18 hooahah wrote: played with a team of full russians they were far better than me ._. the other team (russian as well) also played better than me, using wards, farming, teamfighting well, ganking, all that shit did I reach some kinda of pseudo alternate high-skill russian only MMR? Hahaha. In mother russia, russian's carry you! I love playing with my baddie friends. You can pick almost anything and farm mildly decent while halfway paying attention, and still be effective in most games. What I don't love is when my friends are less than worthless, and complain about lag spikes and ping all game. To most players, you can tell the difference between poor decision making and a lag spike, so why do people still use it as some kind of excuse? Sad days when I won't even play with my best friend any more  . He needs to fix his internet.EDIT: To clarify, I want him to have good internet so he won't have anything to blame his poor decision making on, and can focus on improving. | ||
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fearpLug
Germany153 Posts
and the worst part is, you cant even just end this shit. but yeah it seems kinda hard 2 predict for a MM-System that a 1k wins guy might own against 70 60 ish wins. same bs as with sc2 sytstem | ||
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GG_DotA2
United States199 Posts
On December 10 2012 09:08 DoNotDisturb wrote: od went top twice and my lanemates died even when I called ss twice hell, I even said "od g top" and they still said I didn't call ss T_T yea i played with some russians who actually spoke some english but only used it to whine and scream. I call ss all the time and they never back off and die, then they say, "OD no call ss, fcking noob" when you could see it in chat even while your typing, it would show up. There's just stupid people everywhere. Those guys kept calling me noob and the russian wd never did any supporting but go bkb FIRST. Luckily we won. Getting a bit off topic but the point is, those people are the lowest of the low, they just go completely retarded. MY QQ: Hate it when people are in a 4 stack and blame the one random player for doing terrible. Guess who that random player was? me... So it's 40 mins in, i am tide who had bought the courier(flying too), probably bought wards all the time, had 4-3-28. The stack had a terrible cm going 1-14....seriously, the carry was retard who did not understand the meaning of back the hell up. So eventually the enemy is pushing to the rax after we lost a fight, they blame me apparently for feeding the enemy team, taking kills and farm from the carry, and using terrible ults. Well let's see here, 3 deaths, yea that is totally feeding unlike the 1-14 cm or the carry thinking he's invincible and going in 1v5(rambo) which cost us the rax. 4 kills let's see, one was because i ulted and anchored killing someone, the other three were because i had to use gush or smash to get the kill or else the player would have gotten away because my allies thought getting a SINGLE farm or moving back a little for courier to give item was WAY more important than a kill. The farm, i wasn't even laning with the carry(pa), cm was... HERP DERP. 28 assists, how would i get that many assists if i did not land good ults to win fights. No way i could get 28 assists by just gushing and smashing. i said this to my teammates, but all they said was that i should stop whining, being a baby, a no life and that i should play better and grow some balls....... enough said. | ||
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lazyitachi
1043 Posts
I HATE INVOKER... I have no fuckin idea what m I doing when I am playing invoker.. doesnt help when my teammates are clueless too. :S GG game... no return Random PL immediately.. nice... I can play PL ezpz.. ooo.. enemy pick slardar.. damn... teammate pick weaver... wat?? last pick... riki... wow.. just wow... my head hurts so bad from the bads.. Needless to say no actual stuns + ezpz dusts + amp = GG by 15 min FINALLY.. radiant randomed warlock.. solo own invoker and centaur top. FBed the centaur who got too gungho. warded like a bitch the whole game.. made stupid items like lothars and orchid, BH owning early then decided to suicide into their turtling forest farming group while alch and naix was just afk farming whole game while enemy QOP feed on ES... still won.. meh.. today's a new day... more wins more wins.. Maybe I should stop randoming and pick try hard heroes. But then again.. randoming is so much fun.. (except when I get invoker) | ||
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sandyph
Indonesia1640 Posts
then our invoker DC and dont come back, immediately everybody leave why cant people understand that when its a close game, being 4v5 actually advantageous as long as the game dont drag on too long | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
On December 12 2012 12:14 sandyph wrote: close games, were slightly ahead then our invoker DC and dont come back, immediately everybody leave why cant people understand that when its a close game, being 4v5 actually advantageous as long as the game dont drag on too long Ummm... On December 12 2012 12:08 lazyitachi wrote: 3 game losing streak finally broken!! I HATE INVOKER... I have no fuckin idea what m I doing when I am playing invoker.. doesnt help when my teammates are clueless too. :S GG game... no return Coincidence? | ||
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