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XiGua
Sweden3085 Posts
On December 09 2012 23:59 babishh wrote: all pick, our team: pudge wr ench spectre. last pick: SHADOW FIEND Shadow fiend goes mid, pudge goes roaming with top lane presence to help Spectre if he has problems. WR, solo suicide lane and ench woods with early presence in lane with creep ganking. Sounds like a totally "OK" line-up. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Then it starts to go downhill. Drow (no idea what lane) has been getting total freefarm it seems. Axe is pretty tanked up as well. No idea how they gave away so much. No calls for ganks or anything, just slowly let them methodically build up without even an attempt to disrupt the farming. Then I can't manage a swap they're demanding, because its not levelled enough yet so the range isn't good enough for what they wanted. That, of course, is the cue for what I found out later was their entire four-stack to blame the entire game on me. "Venge not been stunning at all." Sorry, but the chainstuns with Lina earlier that have got us the first couple of kills don't count as stuns? "This venge is terrible." Clearly that's why I'm more or less even on K/D with a decent few assists. "Now he's intentionally feeding." Because getting jumped by three opponents whilst trying to farm up some items is feeding, right? Perhaps when you got caught out by Drow farming you were feeding as well? Nothing but cry, cry, cry from them. Moaning over voice chat, text, everything. To the point they were bitching about me using punctuation in sentences, truly pathetic. I'd long since given up by this point, should have seen it coming when it turned out they were 4-stack. Then Lina decides I'm Asian (that bit was totally nonsensical, I mean...what?) and starts throwing racist slurs at me (which, considering I'm white British, was very confusing). After that it descends into the usual pattern of abuse and calls to leave, which was pretty funny since it was always going to be that way given they were 4 stacked together. Followed up by the whole "you're upset? Its the internet, stop crying" stuff you always get after I told them (in more words than this) to go screw themselves. Oh, and of course them calling for the opposing team to report me for feeding. Got to love it when the whole rest of your team is a stack and they decide to blame you for their fuckups or for the team as a whole getting outplayed. But clearly it couldn't be their fault, right? They're a TEAM! Really not in the mood for this kind of crap today. You'd think people could at least be civil but apparently not. | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
On December 10 2012 00:35 Lightspeaker wrote: Then it starts to go downhill. Drow (no idea what lane) has been getting total freefarm it seems. Axe is pretty tanked up as well. No idea how they gave away so much. No calls for ganks or anything, just slowly let them methodically build up without even an attempt to disrupt the farming. Sometime's (Note: ALL THE TIME) you should be looking for this stuff yourself.. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
But frankly when AM said he'd solo bottom lane when I suggested a support down (less competent people tend to blindly 2-1-2 but we had a jungle Enigma, so most pub people want a support on their hard carry) there I kind of ASSUMED that he was competent enough to identify when he was getting outlaned that he'd call for support. My mistake for overestimating his capabilities I guess. You'd think people would have the common sense to call for help if they're having trouble. Ganks were mostly easily dodged (we managed to avoid a bunch, couple got through but nothing particularly significant), but judging how well a lane is doing...you kinda have to be monitoring it over time. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
On December 09 2012 22:37 hooahah wrote: how do you find these players I play a lot of dota and I never have teammates -this- terrible (or at least, only 1) or rather how did the game go 40 minutes if all your teammates did was die I get stuff like this all the time in the shitbracket which im trying to get out of playing furion. Here's an exanmple: Enemy huskar gets an early feed of 6 - 0 or so, hence he's now prancing around ultin and just raping everyone at will. Meanwhile my teams drow has two bracers and a pair of normal boots. We manage to somewhat stabilize around 20min but they start doom pushing by this time and we can't even 5man huskar who now has that dmg increase/hp drain item which i always forget the name of, a helm and almost a heart. I then start counterpushing as it's the only thing i can do, and the enemy team are being idiots ofcourse, they walk back, all five for 20 minutes everytime they push. So i delay the game 20min hoping for drow to get farm so we can stand a chance. It goes so far huskar buys BoT's to stop me from counter pushing but i still manage to delay them another 10min, so 30min of free farm for drow and whatever other carry we had(i forgot who). What are the results when i can no longer counter push since they only port back with two now? Drow has two bracers, a mask, boots and a mantastyle. After 30min of free farm and the other carry has gotten nothing, nothing. And huskar now has heart, bkb, drainshit, helm and boots. The enemy PL now has heart, vanguard, butterfly, boots and a linkens. So yeah we're fucked. Meanwhile i've had a desolator, midas, boots, agahnims and a shadowblade for like forever. Stuff like this happens fairly often in shitbracket. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On December 10 2012 00:48 unkkz wrote:Enemy huskar gets an early feed of 6 - 0 or so, hence he's now prancing around ultin and just raping everyone at will. Huskar is horrendous in pubs, just totally rips people apart as soon as he gets slightly ahead. Snowballs like crazy because of the total lack of coordination. | ||
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
On December 10 2012 00:52 Lightspeaker wrote: Huskar is horrendous in pubs, just totally rips people apart as soon as he gets slightly ahead. Snowballs like crazy because of the total lack of coordination. Yeah, before they started doom pushing we had a few "ganks" on him where we were 3 - 4 people and he obviously kills one of us, and then everyone else just runs. If they just stand their ground we get his ass down with 1-2 losses but it's still worth it to keep him somewhat mortal. Oh and forgot to mention the only stun we had was pudge ulti, pudge was pretty decent though so the few kills we got on huskar was due to hook > ult and he dropped like a bag of potatoes. But most often people went on him, panicked, tried to run, died by him/other enemies. | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
Skipping to 35 minutes into the game - we were playing 4v5 all the time and up until a few minutes ago the kill and towercount was even, but as the game progresses, we obviously can't win with one hero less. By now we've lost all the towers and the enemies are 8 kills ahead. So we ask AM how his farm is going and he replies: "almost bfury done" and I was like: that guy must be trolling on us. So I check his inventory and see: Treads, wand, Preserverance. That's it. So after I left him alone for 30 minutes of freefarm, where he didn't even die ONCE through the entire game - The enemy didn't even bother ganking him anyway. Now he has fucking NOTHING! How is that even possible? I mean even with autoattacking you get more than that. Hell even with staying afk at fountain you get freaking more! Where the hell did his freaking gold go?! | ||
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Romitelli
Brunei Darussalam566 Posts
On December 09 2012 12:15 Poker wrote: New account You can literally win any normal game by yourself. So just farm up and kill them Proof: https://dotabuff.com/matches/75208146 Cliffs: Team fed 20 deaths in 9 minutes then all left the game Play 1v5 Win game Yes your team is terrible/first time playing but so is the other one, MMR system is quite accurate already (based on GPM and maybe EXP/min i believe) Got placed into very high right after the first game, which tells me its based on GPM. QQ: into very high on 2nd game, wtf? Wanted to farm some free wins at normal and high as a warmup today... I even selected brand new when it asked for my skill level at the start..... MMR is not based on GPM or XPM. You can get placed into high or very high after a few wins if, when you registered, you selected the "veteran" option. If matchmaking was based on GPM or XPM, you'd see a lot of Furion and midplayers at the top, and very few players who play the 5 position, which is obviously not the case. | ||
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SKYFISH_
Bulgaria990 Posts
like, the difference in skill is just painful i just want balanced games gabe, not fucking roflstomps :/ edit yep, 48% winrate, thats a bit too close to 50 yo | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
 even though we won the game i kinda feel like i need a hug. | ||
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
On December 10 2012 05:10 nttea wrote: Got matched with dement grizine stack..... got really excited at first and thought it would be a fun experience but they were total assholes to me even though we won the game i kinda feel like i need a hug./hug : ) | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
On December 10 2012 00:45 PassiveAce wrote: People who blame their teammates for deaths because no ss was called. I guess its just because of having a starcraft background, it seems absurd to me that people would expect others to call missing for them when they have a minimap right in front of them. It's almost just like admitting that your terrible and dont watch the minimap. in a game like Dota where communication is critical, you can't just expect people to know everything. Even though theoratically everyone knows everything, you still need to type SS, Roshan death time, items on heroes, ultimates used, etc. | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
On December 10 2012 05:16 hooahah wrote: in a game like Dota where communication is critical, you can't just expect people to know everything. Even though theoratically everyone knows everything, you still need to type SS, Roshan death time, items on heroes, ultimates used, etc. in my opinion people should call miss, but even if they don't and you die cause you didn't check minimap it's your fault; what's really fun about it is i swear a lot of people don't even care if someone gets called miss unless it's super obvious where they are going, then after they die they just check chat log to see if someone called miss. It's really stupid :p also thanks for the hug i feel better now. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On December 10 2012 00:45 PassiveAce wrote: People who blame their teammates for deaths because no ss was called. I guess its just because of having a starcraft background, it seems absurd to me that people would expect others to call missing for them when they have a minimap right in front of them. It's almost just like admitting that your terrible and dont watch the minimap. It's not really practical to depend only on the minimap. Enemy heroes will going missing off the minimap all the time from high ground vision, pulling creep camps, going back to the fountain to heal etc. If you start to towerhug every single time that happens you'll just give the lane away. | ||
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Enzymatic
Canada1301 Posts
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canikizu
4860 Posts
I don't like people who are not calling miss either, but I'm not gonna rage about it unless they're just elite asshole and don't recognize that's their fault. | ||
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Narw
Poland884 Posts
On December 10 2012 07:40 deconduo wrote: It's not really practical to depend only on the minimap. Enemy heroes will going missing off the minimap all the time from high ground vision, pulling creep camps, going back to the fountain to heal etc. If you start to towerhug every single time that happens you'll just give the lane away. Thats why you keep track on certain heroes. Start of game, you see that nasty pudge is purple and he is mid. You don't see purple last 2 glances on minimap? Time to hug. Void babysited by Bane and Bane suddenly mia around 6 mins? Thats time to worry. Remember what colour dangerous and likely gank dependant heroes have. There are times you can expect ganks, like first nightime with reduced vision and those are times when you should be more aware of whats happenig. Asking your teammates to ss is a bit silly, whinning over lack of ss is more like issue with your map awarness and trying to hide your own fuckup. And sadly i do need to write ss all the time just to avoid whinning. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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