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what the fuck is this shit?
seriously what the fuck?
I know I'm in 'normal' MMR but why the fuck is the game pairing me with guys who can't last hit, don't have any map awareness, constantly fight 1v5, don't know how to play support, don't know which items to get, just can't fucking do anything
how the fuck did these guys get 100+ wins, did they get carried in all of them?
go support - carries can't do shit
go carry - compete with 4 other hard carries for lasthits, no support
dota 2 I want to love you but sometimes you are a fucking atrocious experience and jesus christ I hope I never have another day like this again
at least I had -one- good game today, as Dark Seer. Thank god the enemy team completely underestimated Replica Wall or we would've been proper fucked, too. (fun thing I learned - if you replicate an enemy hero with Vlad, you gain the bonus yourself - completely saved me and won me the game)
edit: checking dotabuff, some of these guys have 400+ games
how? how???? how the fuck do you have so many games and still be SO FUCKING CLUELESS ABOUT THE GAME? that's roughly 300~ hours, give or take. You'd think after 300 hours they'd know what last hitting is
strongest fucking urge to delete this game right now
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On November 29 2012 07:27 The Irate Turk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 05:09 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:On November 29 2012 04:45 Sn0_Man wrote:On November 29 2012 04:33 itsthewoo wrote:On November 29 2012 03:49 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:On November 29 2012 01:36 Lightspeaker wrote:
I've played Warlock support a couple of times recently and tend to absolutely destroy people. >_>
Warlock support can be legit. He only has one move that requires positioning, so you can play him way back and spend your $ on things like mek and euls instead of a blink dagger or force staff. Even in 5 man teams, he can have his place, because of his relatively strong ranged auto attack and big heal he makes a good lane mate for squishy carries. Plus, his ult, though large CD and small stun, also pushes the lane after the team fight. Not to mention that he has a good amount of self-synergy. Fatal bonds -> Rain of Chaos -> Upheaval = pretty good DPS on any grouping of enemy heroes. o.O Okay so, lets imagine some absolute best case scenarios here: Step 1: They are circlejerking together nowhere near creeps, fatal bonds hits all 5. Step 2: Your ulti goes off fine (this is actually very easy to achieve, I'm not disputing that). You just did 200 Magic damage to each opponent, so they all lost 150 HP (factoring in fatal bonds). Step 3: None of them have a silence, a stun/ministun, a BKB, or any kind of mobility skill. They have no autoattacks to kill your golem and are secretly just passive bots. Congrats, you are now doing 60-100 magic DPS immolation (assuming the immolate hits all with fatal bonds), plus have a really slow golem whacking at them (admittedly it hits pretty hard). Your average squishy hero (with 1K HP only) dies ~10 seconds later. #Synergy. Conveniently, if they refuse to move due to being dropped as babies, they start to become slowed. This slow is reliant on you being within autoattack range of any ranged hero. Conclusion: if your opponents lack the basic mental functions of chimpanzees, warlock might be able to kill them, eventually. Otherwise, you are completely reliant on your team, since your hero adds up to: a 1 second stun (near global, at least). You're right, he wont be able to wipe an entire team by himself. In fact, he will lose most 1 on 1 fights in the game. There are better summons than the golem, better damage than fatal bonds, and better nukes than shadow word. The key though, is that warlock isn't there to lay out the damage, he's there to support the carries actually doing damage. He has the ability to play safe and still be effective, making him viable in 5th position. The golem is effectively a mini-pudge worth of dps, and similar on the target priority list. fatal bonds and shadow word have decent range so that you can lay them safely and gtfo before getting caught, and upheavel gives you an effective way to control a zone during end game teamfights, making pushing possible even after golems lose their effectiveness. there is also the comedy "aganhim's refresher" option for the luls
I love that. When your team is so hilariously far ahead that you get Aganhim and Refresher Orb and use it to instantly throw 4 golems at a Zeus.
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On November 29 2012 05:28 Sn0_Man wrote:Upheaval is like CM ulti, only it does no damage... which is the main draw of CM ulti (an ability that isn't always even levelled).
...CM ulti is a channelled AoE around the caster whereas Upheaval is an absolutely massive AoE based on a target point, which means you don't have to somehow get your squishy position 5 into the middle of the enemy team and then fire off something which WILL make them a priority target. You can just do it from behind your teammates.
On November 29 2012 07:27 The Irate Turk wrote:
there is also the comedy "aganhim's refresher" option for the luls
So badly want to try this, but building a Sceptre on a 5 in a normal game without the greatest farm capability is hard enough as it is without adding refresher on top. X-D
Tricky to get such farm when playing a hard support.
On November 29 2012 07:44 hooahah wrote:
go support - carries can't do shit
go carry - compete with 4 other hard carries for lasthits, no support
dota 2 I want to love you but sometimes you are a fucking atrocious experience and jesus christ I hope I never have another day like this again
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edit: checking dotabuff, some of these guys have 400+ games
how? how???? how the fuck do you have so many games and still be SO FUCKING CLUELESS ABOUT THE GAME? that's roughly 300~ hours, give or take. You'd think after 300 hours they'd know what last hitting is
strongest fucking urge to delete this game right now
I sympathise. Can be horrible sometimes.
Although I'd correct your "go carry" option. Because sometimes you're actually competing with your own support for last hits, not another hard carry; which is all the more aggrevating because they really, really don't need that farm (bonus points if they're also pushing the lane constantly).
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Drow aura is so unbelievebly stupid, I don't understand how it can still be in the game... Played zeus vs drow mid, i dominate my lane (kill her twice, she gets no last hits etc). I absolutely destroy them during teamfights (i was something like 23-4 at one point), and yet despite killing drow times and times again (she ended up 9-15) her aura pushes our lane too hard and we can't take advantage of winning the teamfights.
I eventually get aganim/refresher, we still win teamfights but we basically have to play 3v5 to defend our rax, and end up loosing the game. I was 27-6 at the end...
Match id: 69777167
The worse thing is that it makes the game go on forever... really makes me want to stop playing dota.
edit: of course it didn't help that our void was a complete noob, yet we should have been able to end this game by the 30 min mark.
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@hooahah
screw go ''hard carry'', offlaner with a good escape mechanism all the way
dark sonic and windrunner have been my favorites for a while now, I especially love when the enemy team tries their best to get me in the midgame when I already have farmed a staff and linkens on WR.
Best thing is that they REALLY want to get me because I've been harassing their asses during the entire game....and when they bring the hate I just press E and listen to some classic tunes + Show Spoiler +
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Dude on my team, picks Magnus, gets bottle first, goes mid and forces our pudge out of the lanes, makes stupid noises over ingame voice, dies, goes bot, fucks up the lane, follows me (chen) around the woods, singing "chen chen chen chen chen", steals the lasthits with shockwave, fucks up entire game... so in the end a friend of mine just took the abandon so we could just go and queue for another game
so
fucking
mad
people who are bad are one thing, but people ACTIVELY ruining the game... fuuuck
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On November 29 2012 07:44 hooahah wrote:
strongest fucking urge to delete this game right now
Oh, the dread of solo queuing in the normal MMR. Sometimes i respectfully ask people to buy courier/wards to which i'm replied - and these are just my favourites among other stupid reasons
Courier:
-Too expensive, not worth it at the start
-The other team isn't getting one either, why should we waste money?
-Rofl, get it yourself(which i'm doing when i play a support)
Wards:
-Too expensive(obviously)
-"Ain't got time for that!"
And my all time favourite activity is telling people to stop auto attacking because it pushes the lane and we can get ganked. They usually reply "ok" or "sure thing" only to immediately start auto attacking again.
I don't feel i'm being patronizing or "above" people but extremely rarely feeding or underperforming my role i wonder when i'm going to get with people who actually play at a decent level.
Small proof that my stats aren't abysmal - https://dotabuff.com/players/84646875/matches
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On November 29 2012 22:12 prOpSaiton wrote:And my all time favourite activity is telling people to stop auto attacking because it pushes the lane and we can get ganked. They usually reply "ok" or "sure thing" only to immediately start auto attacking again. I don't feel i'm being patronizing or "above" people but extremely rarely feeding or underperforming my role i wonder when i'm going to get with people who actually play at a decent level. Small proof that my stats aren't abysmal - https://dotabuff.com/players/84646875/matches
You actually get a reply from those people? I normally just get ignored when begging them to stop pushing the lane into the opposing tower.
As for playing with people who know what they're doing...don't worry, it'll happen eventually. I actually had one of the best games I've played last night which made some of my recent horrible experiences worth it. Everyone in the game had hundreds of games played. I actually had the lowest amount played with only a couple of hundred. Was worried at the start because opposing team had a 3-stack. So I took Jakiro and fairly messed up two members of their 3-stack by repeatedly icepathing them (Pudge laning with an SB *shrug*). Their Drow got a fair number of ganks and levels but in teamfights we'd just chainstun her to death.
Won quite nicely. Couldn't believe how much of a difference it made. People buying wards, warding jungles, setting up ambushes...all with very little communication. So enjoyable. You'll get this eventually and remember why you play. 
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Play a game.
Guy randoms Witch Doctor, about 30 secs before creeps appear.
Goes and feeds like a motherfucker.
Calls us all noobs.
Check out his win/loss ratio.
210 games, 47 wins.
Less than 25% win ratio.
Fuck this.
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-Go on a (small) winning streak with 2 buddies.
-Get matched against some guy (and perhaps his buddies, idk) I saw playing against Dendi on Dendi's stream.
-Matchmaking rigs the match by putting a 48% winrate, solo-queuing guy in our team who picks Slark and stays in lane with like 50 hp (while not being level 6) against Broodmother/Warlock despite being repeatedly told to go heal and to switch lanes.
-Feed ensues.
-QQ.
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On November 29 2012 22:07 SKYFISH_ wrote:@hooahah screw go ''hard carry'', offlaner with a good escape mechanism all the way dark sonic and windrunner have been my favorites for a while now, I especially love when the enemy team tries their best to get me in the midgame when I already have farmed a staff and linkens on WR. Best thing is that they REALLY want to get me because I've been harassing their asses during the entire game....and when they bring the hate I just press E and listen to some classic tunes + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo
I am definitely thinking of playing only Dark Seer for a while until I get to a better MMR. Dark Seer is fucking incredible - as Puppey said it on his stream, Dark Seer has no counters pretty much. I can lane, jungle like a beast, affect teamfights, Dark Seer is just so unbelivably amazing. Perhaps the best thing is the possibility of comebacks with Replica Wall - that shit is fucking amazing
QQ of today: team of 4 carries 1 support (all randomed), 2 of the carries proceed to feed pretty hard, whatever, we're still sorta in this because this is normal MMR and everyone are awful
ensue teamfight - we've got the PERFECT engagement. Witch Doctor got a cask on their 2 most farmed heroes, popped his ult, Panda popped his ult, I was about to hit a perfectly timed boat as Kunkka
NOPE TEAMMATE NAGA ACTIVATES SONG OF THE SIREN, ALL ULTIMATES AND STUN WASTED
I think I just laughed afterwards as we were wiped out in seconds
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Song of balance imba skill.
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finally have a reverse qq story for once. chose pl because i was getting tired of getting stomped by him, early game jugg feeds bottom for 5 minutes and proceeds to quit the game. leaving me with drow, es and necro against fed ursa (who ended up with 3 aegis + cheese), sk and sk, slark and axe. down all game and defended like crazy. thank god necro and es played perfect support, buying wards, gem and just helping out in general. letting me and drow get to late game.
one of those games that killed my spirit early on but restored my faith to pull out the win. yay for once.
https://dotabuff.com/matches/70355407
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Hmm russian internet doesn't seem to be working today. I've tried to play a game 10 times now but there is always 3,4,5 ppl that cant connect to the damn game!
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On November 30 2012 22:59 Doraemon wrote:finally have a reverse qq story for once. chose pl because i was getting tired of getting stomped by him, early game jugg feeds bottom for 5 minutes and proceeds to quit the game. leaving me with drow, es and necro against fed ursa (who ended up with 3 aegis + cheese), sk and sk, slark and axe. down all game and defended like crazy. thank god necro and es played perfect support, buying wards, gem and just helping out in general. letting me and drow get to late game. one of those games that killed my spirit early on but restored my faith to pull out the win. yay for once. https://dotabuff.com/matches/70355407
So basically you're saying drow's aura won the game for you :p (impossible to push your advantage once she gets enough agility if you don't have very good pushing heroes).
I had a similar story, we were down 19-7 and just got teamwiped.Worst of all, their naix was still farming in the jungle!
Weaver in my team starts to call gg noob team etc (which was ironic because his first big item was a morbid mask.. on weaver). We also have a russian beastmaster feeding quite a lot, but dragonknight and deathprophet seem to be ok player, so I thought it was worth it to give it a shot (i was tidehunter).
Long story short, my warding allowed us to take them out of position a couple of times, I got on or 2 good ravages and after a 1h10min game we finally won. Felt really awesome, surprisingly enough we haven't heard about weaver anymore :p.
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I know it was dumb, but I still really miss being able to counter cliff wards as melee (You could walk up cliffs to kill wards in HoN as melee heroes rofl).
Current QQ is still players without sound, ruining team communication 
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Players are talking in language that I don't know.
Every single game... qq
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Win rate is irrelevant, if you weren't bad you wouldn't be down there with the drivel
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Russians and the majority of them with their inability to speak an appropriate level of english. Ruins this game for me feels like im playing solo everygame on EU-west
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Dont be sad if you lose one game, you will surely win one. 50% win ratio matchmaking fuckers, remember that!
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