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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 16:13:44
April 13 2015 16:12 GMT
#26361
On April 14 2015 01:08 TheYango wrote:
It's range is also terrible now which means you have a ton of positioning options against it, even without any of those things.

unless it just goes off at like 700 range anyway because dota 2
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 16:15:22
April 13 2015 16:14 GMT
#26362
On April 14 2015 01:12 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 01:08 TheYango wrote:
It's range is also terrible now which means you have a ton of positioning options against it, even without any of those things.

unless it just goes off at like 700 range anyway because dota 2

The motion range buffer being 150 units too big makes a lot of bullshit things happen, not just Omnislash.

EDIT: Oops that value's for attacks. Forget what the range buffer numbers are for spells.
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
April 13 2015 16:29 GMT
#26363
On April 14 2015 01:06 Alur wrote:
I don't know about no counterplay. Ghost sceptre, euls, grouping up, going invis or creating more targets with manta/necrobook?


Grouping up makes you vulnerable to so many worse things though...

I got an early Shadow Blade yesterday to escape the Omnislash and it worked a couple of times until they wisened up and bought dust.

I guess my QQ is that it forces you to buy very specific items to counter it or requires coordination from your entire team which is basically nonexistant in most games.

It's the perfect bullshit pub stomp ability.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
April 13 2015 16:36 GMT
#26364
On April 14 2015 01:29 DinoMight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 01:06 Alur wrote:
I don't know about no counterplay. Ghost sceptre, euls, grouping up, going invis or creating more targets with manta/necrobook?


Grouping up makes you vulnerable to so many worse things though...

I got an early Shadow Blade yesterday to escape the Omnislash and it worked a couple of times until they wisened up and bought dust.

I guess my QQ is that it forces you to buy very specific items to counter it or requires coordination from your entire team which is basically nonexistant in most games.

It's the perfect bullshit pub stomp ability.

I don't know, a lot of those items are already solid options on various heroes, so wouldn't consider them all that "specific". And I agree that it's a powerful ability, I just disagree with your claim of there being "no counterplay".
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 13 2015 16:48 GMT
#26365
You can also Force/Blink out of Omni if your timing is good.
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Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 17:33:40
April 13 2015 17:33 GMT
#26366
Bogus Flame of the Day #5.
Payload: "Reported for being useless"
Reason: Refused show up for potential teamfights. They mostly did not happen because the other team repeatedly backed out to deal with the split-push
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
April 13 2015 18:49 GMT
#26367
On April 14 2015 01:48 TheYango wrote:
You can also Force/Blink out of Omni if your timing is good.


Phoenix is great against omnislash (though not necessarily the rest of omni) because of this. You can try for dive with good timing, and if that fails you have supernova as well.
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
April 13 2015 19:00 GMT
#26368
General QQ: the spirit breaker in your game who causes huge headaches consistently being the lowest MMR player.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 19:27:34
April 13 2015 19:25 GMT
#26369
On April 14 2015 04:00 FHDH wrote:
General QQ: the spirit breaker in your game who causes huge headaches consistently being the lowest MMR player.


And the guy who thinks he's Dendi and automatically gets mid because he has the highest MMR (when he's like 24 higher than you).

Why don't they show everyone's MMR?
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2015 19:55 GMT
#26370
Hey guys remember when BKB was actually worth going rather than having every fucking ability go through it or every hero not give a shit
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
April 13 2015 20:37 GMT
#26371
On April 14 2015 01:29 DinoMight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 01:06 Alur wrote:
I don't know about no counterplay. Ghost sceptre, euls, grouping up, going invis or creating more targets with manta/necrobook?


Grouping up makes you vulnerable to so many worse things though...

I got an early Shadow Blade yesterday to escape the Omnislash and it worked a couple of times until they wisened up and bought dust.

I guess my QQ is that it forces you to buy very specific items to counter it or requires coordination from your entire team which is basically nonexistant in most games.

It's the perfect bullshit pub stomp ability.


I'd say Lina at this point feels like more bullshit. Absurd range on both spells and attacks. And guess what, she has a skill that when she gets aghs can only potentially be countered by linkens and that skill also deals 1k damage form 1k range. Only possibility to maybe dodge it is if you spend like 9k to get linkens and bkb. And that only depends on what other heroes they have on their team etc.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
April 13 2015 21:14 GMT
#26372
lvl 7 dazzle and his skillbuild 3-1-3-0
lvl 16 dazzle 3-4-4-3
not the brightest fellow i had the pleasure to play with
FTD
Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
April 13 2015 23:44 GMT
#26373
Uninstalling Dota 2 was never so easy, great job every sniper and troll picker, you guys freed me from pointless addiction!
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 05:06:48
April 14 2015 00:00 GMT
#26374
On April 14 2015 04:55 Drazerk wrote:
Hey guys remember when BKB was actually worth going rather than having every fucking ability go through it or every hero not give a shit


This one does kind of annoy me. Item is over-nerfed, imo.

When every game has at least 3 heroes that ignore it, and you can't even repurchase your precious ten seconds of immunity to the other two, and the game is almost guaranteed to last forever because comeback mechanics, you just never want to get it until you're at the point where you lose if you don't take rax in the next engagement.
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
April 14 2015 00:32 GMT
#26375
I was bristle, look at this game.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1396780575

Storm is learning the hero in an unranked game even well beyond his skill level with his fav hero and grabbed mid. Their "offlane" spec carry the game for you while our PA has about the same cs from easy lane and BF build. lost 400 mmr and still dropping.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
April 14 2015 00:43 GMT
#26376
How is it that the 1-16 troll with phase boots and morbid mask is still able to fight me as a level 17 CK with Treads/Drums/Dominator/Manta. This is just stupid.
We CAN have nice things
Mecha King Ghidorah
Profile Joined April 2014
United States595 Posts
April 14 2015 01:24 GMT
#26377
Have time for one more dotq game annnnd something happened with the taxes and my mom forced me outside the house as the mere sight and sound of me videogakes would probably tip her over the edge into chucking the computer out the window (Our place is really small) FML
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 01:34:01
April 14 2015 01:33 GMT
#26378
On April 14 2015 05:37 BigO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 01:29 DinoMight wrote:
On April 14 2015 01:06 Alur wrote:
I don't know about no counterplay. Ghost sceptre, euls, grouping up, going invis or creating more targets with manta/necrobook?


Grouping up makes you vulnerable to so many worse things though...

I got an early Shadow Blade yesterday to escape the Omnislash and it worked a couple of times until they wisened up and bought dust.

I guess my QQ is that it forces you to buy very specific items to counter it or requires coordination from your entire team which is basically nonexistant in most games.

It's the perfect bullshit pub stomp ability.


I'd say Lina at this point feels like more bullshit. Absurd range on both spells and attacks. And guess what, she has a skill that when she gets aghs can only potentially be countered by linkens and that skill also deals 1k damage form 1k range. Only possibility to maybe dodge it is if you spend like 9k to get linkens and bkb. And that only depends on what other heroes they have on their team etc.

i mean it's really hard but technically that ult is dodgeable with euls and manta and other disjoints. not saying lina isnt broken tho
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 04:42:05
April 14 2015 04:39 GMT
#26379
First guy randoms pudge. We agree he should mid.
Second guy picks Bristle so he goes solo off.
Third guy picks omni to counter some of their heroes.
I go Sniper to lane bottom with Omni.

At this point, we just need either a support or a jungler that won't get in anyone's way right? We all collectively agree on this.

Last guy picks Slark. Says "I am safe carry." Goes safe lane with me and Omni. Won't leave lane until the BS laning against me is 4 levels up on me. Whole team yelling at him and all he does is type "Kappa" from time to time.

Slark obviously can't get any farm. So naturally his first item is a 22 minute Midas.


I wish I were making this up. FML.

(We won because omni ult + sniper is ridiculously good in this meta. But still.... ughhhh fuck that guy)
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
April 14 2015 12:02 GMT
#26380
On April 14 2015 13:39 DinoMight wrote:
First guy randoms pudge. We agree he should mid.
Second guy picks Bristle so he goes solo off.
Third guy picks omni to counter some of their heroes.
I go Sniper to lane bottom with Omni.

At this point, we just need either a support or a jungler that won't get in anyone's way right? We all collectively agree on this.

Last guy picks Slark. Says "I am safe carry." Goes safe lane with me and Omni. Won't leave lane until the BS laning against me is 4 levels up on me. Whole team yelling at him and all he does is type "Kappa" from time to time.

Slark obviously can't get any farm. So naturally his first item is a 22 minute Midas.


I wish I were making this up. FML.

(We won because omni ult + sniper is ridiculously good in this meta. But still.... ughhhh fuck that guy)


It always sucks when 4 in the team communicates picks and such really well, only to have the last guy random/not care and get some stupid shit. I really don't understand why people feel the need to be such assholes.
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