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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
March 20 2016 05:05 GMT
#7021
MoM slark > New meta.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 20 2016 09:30 GMT
#7022
we lost tho
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Shrinkzxo
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Dotoland672 Posts
March 20 2016 13:45 GMT
#7023
On March 20 2016 12:12 TheEmulator wrote:
it went 10 hours? Fuck this was the worst day ever to have family over. WHY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR EASTER FAMILY PARTY A WEEK EARLY


And I picked Meepo and Techies (not in the same game tho)
https://twitter.com/shrinkzxo
yoshipa
Profile Joined March 2016
36 Posts
March 20 2016 14:31 GMT
#7024
I can't seem to use nuj. Bummer
The eyes have it (http://nerdds.com)
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
March 20 2016 14:47 GMT
#7025
On March 20 2016 22:45 Shrinkzxo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2016 12:12 TheEmulator wrote:
it went 10 hours? Fuck this was the worst day ever to have family over. WHY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR EASTER FAMILY PARTY A WEEK EARLY


And I picked Meepo and Techies (not in the same game tho)

And Huskar.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-20 18:55:55
March 20 2016 15:28 GMT
#7026
my opinion on guidelines to have decent inhouse games

1. both captains are drafting at roughly the same level of tryhard. cancer begets cancer, clown begets clown.
2. 5k players (or best players or whatever) on both teams either both take cores or both take supports, no mismatching
3. both hero lineups can go sorta late... its possible to go for a more timing lineup but those games often dont feel as fun when people cant execute and then the game becomes inevitable
4. everyone is at least listening to the discord voice chat, though preferably everyone has a mic
5. players with more limited hero pools throw out a few suggestions during draft phase (and make it clear when you need to be on a particular hero in a draft asap)
6. techies ban set up by rocketbear like a year ago remains in place
7. people dont instagrab captain multiple games in a row unless theyre on a team with people who dont wanna be captain
8. it's in bad taste to draft yourself an out-of-meta or high-skill core hero when there's a high chance your under-performance will cost your team the game

like im gonna be honest shrinkzxo i bitched pretty hard about getting you as captain the 2 times i did and im not the only one; you dont communicate nearly enough for the random shit you draft and do and it makes the game unenjoyable for your teammates

i dont think anybody on your team enjoyed your meepo, techies, or huskar games... like you can have fun and do some weird shit in inhouses, but try not to do it over and over again at the expense of your teammates' enjoyment?

aight thats my salt shaker
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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
March 20 2016 16:03 GMT
#7027
yeah techies just makes the games superboring for everyone involved except for the techies player unfortunately. And since inhouses are supposed to be fun for as many as possible a techies ban is good
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
March 20 2016 16:20 GMT
#7028
Tuna so salty
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-20 16:32:20
March 20 2016 16:32 GMT
#7029
the games were actually pretty good, and a few of my points weren't actually much of an issue tho (though they have been on other occasions)
posting on liquid sites in current year
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
March 20 2016 16:32 GMT
#7030
yesterday's games were all awful except for the one where i got matched with hjt

save us hjt
ffxiv enjoyer
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
March 20 2016 16:46 GMT
#7031
Also no fake gg when enemies are hitting your throne.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28090 Posts
March 20 2016 18:34 GMT
#7032
To be honest I agree with most of his points. I don't want to make anyone feel bad if they drafted something anti-fun, because they probably don't even realize it sucked for everyone else. It is definitely something everyone who drafts should think about in the future. I know most of my drafts are 100% based on suggestions or previous knowledge of what people like.

Regarding the 5k/best player thing we need to also pay more attention to the shuffle. Most of the time we just shuffle 10 times then instantly hit go. The other day I was the highest MMR player by a small amount and volvo thought it was fair to put me against Rabid/Stancel/Dead9. idk maybe Beesa could have carried that game, but it was impossible for me (happened two games in a row as well).

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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 20 2016 18:41 GMT
#7033
soy sauce on the tuna
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
March 20 2016 18:50 GMT
#7034
On March 21 2016 03:41 rabidch wrote:
soy sauce on the tuna

Delicious.

But yeah I always try to draft appropriately for these things on the rare occasion I show up.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 20 2016 19:03 GMT
#7035
Although I agree that tuna is salty, he makes good points. The 5K players naturally end up on cores, while the lower skill players end up on supports with sub standard amounts of gold and levels. Add a techies/huskar into that and everyone is sad.

Also, if you are drafting and no in the discord chat, you need to remind people. People float in and out of that channel and no on is keeping track of who is listen.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
March 20 2016 22:05 GMT
#7036
I'm guilty of so many things on that list.

On March 21 2016 01:32 Stancel wrote:
yesterday's games were all awful except for the one where i got matched with hjt

save us hjt


but hey, another one for the harem
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
phantomlancer23
Profile Joined May 2013
730 Posts
March 20 2016 22:08 GMT
#7037
Yesterdays games were amazing( stancel is probably joking).I personaly cant think how fast 7 hours passed.The impact of 5k players isnt so big nowdays, the gap between 5k and other players is the smallest ever.
CD is hard,you cant have everything fun heroes, quality games,accepted requests and interesting games.Its like prisoners dilemma if you dont pick good even from the first pick you will be in the mercy of your oppponent,there is no space for errors like in cm, the process is uncorrectable(ofcourse you can whine about his picks after...).The draft in cd mode is the most important factor for decent games.
Maybe we can try some cms, the draft will be much easier for everyone.CM reduces the draft impact on the game and helps with requests.I also suggest 2 separate voice channels for dire and radiant.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 20 2016 22:31 GMT
#7038
- true motherfucker
posting on liquid sites in current year
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 20 2016 22:55 GMT
#7039
Two separate voice channels would remove the horrible attempts at stealth and deception.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
March 20 2016 23:20 GMT
#7040
On March 21 2016 07:55 Plansix wrote:
Two separate voice channels would remove the horrible attempts at stealth and deception.


Come on, you're saying you don't enjoy when people try to be stealthy? Most of the time it's not a huge deal and if/when it is, you can always in-game.

I think the bottom line tho is that everyone wants to win and everyone wants a fair shot at getting the chance to win. Even when we're having fun, at the end of the day, we play bc we enjoy the thrill of winning. When it feels as though people are doing things to sabatoge that opportunity, thats when people get upset.

The big example for me was picking a meepo into a team jam packed with aoe abilities. It just feels like you're not going in with a winning mindset. Even silly or theme drafts can be done with getting a win in mind, yet still be hilarious. Item builds too.

Unless you're stancel and you're in the business of creating new meme builds, then by all means go for it lol. I wasn't even mad when I lost to that gyro build, how could you be lol
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
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