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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
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Silvanel
Poland4769 Posts
Are graphic cards and RAM prices going up, down? Are there any strong indicators? | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
RAM prices seem the same. I doubt they'll drop until new factories are built and producing, but I have no idea what the timetable on that is. | ||
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sc-darkness
856 Posts
Hardware: CPU: i7-5820k GPU: NVIDIA GTX 980 (MSI Twin Frozr) Edit: Are Meltdown and Spectre finally patched for real this time? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
On June 02 2018 17:01 sc-darkness wrote: My brain tells me not to upgrade my computer because it's still super fast, but come on Intel, release a CPU which fixes Meltdown and Spectre. :D Hardware: CPU: i7-5820k GPU: NVIDIA GTX 980 (MSI Twin Frozr) Edit: Are Meltdown and Spectre finally patched for real this time? Spectre at least is a whole class of vulnerabilities which are pretty tricky. Some time 2019-ish there'll probably be 8c16t intel silicon with hardware mitigations on the mainstream which will buy back a lot of the lost performance from meltdown+spectre. They'll be going against Ryzen 3000's which will be significantly better versions of the current Ryzens that are having a party right now since they didn't suffer the same kind of performance loss. Core performance gains between Haswell-E and Coffee Lake are already good between the clock speed and IPC gains so a more advanced and exploit mitigated CPU could be substantially stronger still and a major upgrade even on the same core count. Core performance is way more important than core count but both at the same time are always nice! | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
The combination of those greater losses hitting Intel and the ryzen 2000 series improvements has given AMD a nice lead on some workloads, in some places they're trailing Intel where previously they were non-competitive (some games) or they have landslide wins where they used to be almost to neck and neck (Cinema 4D / Cinebench R15) | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
It's a pretty complicated set of problems and i can't keep all of the data about what affects who and by how much in my head accurately enough to quote, so i'l quote wikipedia The Meltdown vulnerability primarily affects Intel microprocessors,[52] but some ARM microprocessors are also affected.[53] The vulnerability does not affect AMD microprocessors.[19][54][55][56] Intel has countered that the flaws affect all processors,[57] but AMD has denied this, saying "we believe AMD processors are not susceptible due to our use of privilege level protections within paging architecture".[58] Researchers have indicated that the Meltdown vulnerability is exclusive to Intel processors, while the Spectre vulnerability can possibly affect some Intel, AMD, and ARM processors.[59][60][61][62] However, ARM announced that some of their processors were vulnerable to Meltdown.[53] Google has reported that any Intel processor since 1995 with out-of-order execution is potentially vulnerable to the Meltdown vulnerability (this excludes Itanium and pre-2013 Intel Atom CPUs).[63] Intel introduced speculative execution to their processors with Intel's P6 family microarchitecture with the Pentium Pro IA-32 microprocessor in 1995.[64] ARM has reported that the majority of their processors are not vulnerable, and published a list of the specific processors that are affected. Just a couple weeks ago we heard about a new spectre-class vulnerability known as spectre-v4 that even the mitigated intel CPU's (not yet released) are expected to be vulnerable to. It can cause up to 8% performance losses (quoted at 2-8% ) when safeguarded via microcode. | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
To Buy:
Already present:
Questions: 1.) I am unsure about Mainboard and RAM. Considering that I might upgrade this system in 2 or 3 years to a ryzen 7 (and possibly overclock), is the MB and RAM ok for that? Edit: I just noticed that I could also easily use 2400 RAM instead of 3200. Would that be ok too? 2.) For 3 Dollars more I could get a Ryzen 5 1500X 3.50 GHz instead of the Ryzen 5 1600. I would overclock the 1500. What is the better choice? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Generally stick to 3000+ RAM unless there is a large $$ saving from dropping to lower mhz because it has some performance impacts and would last through multiple CPU's. | ||
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TT1
Canada10067 Posts
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
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TT1
Canada10067 Posts
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On June 11 2018 18:15 TT1 wrote: Does anyone know of a good 21.5 to 22 inch 120Hz monitor? If not can someone please recommend me a good 23 inch 120Hz+ monitor? Thanks! Are you sure something like this even exists? I just checked my different suppliers and none have a monitor with 120Hz+ below 23.5". | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
There are very few panels of these sizes that have medium-high PPI's and very few 120hz+ below 1080p. | ||
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TT1
Canada10067 Posts
what's the smallest (minimum 21.5 inch)/highest quality monitor you guys know of? | ||
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sc-darkness
856 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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sc-darkness
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