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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 28 2015 18:03 GMT
#11501
MX200 is pretty good value though, afaik. No reason to skimp the SSD for €/$/£ 20-30, I think.
maru lover forever
EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
December 29 2015 02:01 GMT
#11502
Does anyone need a Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 for their computer? I have a spare one, brand new, we can negotiate out a price :D
Sc2 Terran Coach, top 16GM NA - interested in coaching? Message me on teamliquid!
GUNZx5
Profile Joined September 2012
10 Posts
December 29 2015 02:17 GMT
#11503
So I am looking to buy one of these laptops. Both are very similar with slightly different specs and I am unsure which would be better. I'm looking to play starcraft/overwatch and probably other games and wondering which will give me the better performance.

Option 1: http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-i7559-763BLK-Full-HD-GeForce/dp/B015PYYDMQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1451354834&sr=1-4&keywords=gaming laptop

-I5 6500
-GTX 960M 4gb
-256 ssd (which is enough space for me).

Option 2: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834232848
-I7 4720
-GTX 960M 2gb

Any input and reasoning as to why one would be better would be greatly appreciated!


Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 29 2015 10:46 GMT
#11504
On December 29 2015 11:17 GUNZx5 wrote:
So I am looking to buy one of these laptops. Both are very similar with slightly different specs and I am unsure which would be better. I'm looking to play starcraft/overwatch and probably other games and wondering which will give me the better performance.

Option 1: http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-i7559-763BLK-Full-HD-GeForce/dp/B015PYYDMQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1451354834&sr=1-4&keywords=gaming laptop

-I5 6500
-GTX 960M 4gb
-256 ssd (which is enough space for me).

Option 2: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834232848
-I7 4720
-GTX 960M 2gb

Any input and reasoning as to why one would be better would be greatly appreciated!




well the SSD offers much better quality of life and responsiveness than an HDD does

intel 6xxx is better than 4xxx in terms of single thread performance, which is what you want for starcraft

based on hardware alone, i'd certainly go for dell's offering rather than asus's
maru lover forever
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
December 29 2015 12:21 GMT
#11505
Currently rocking a 7990 and ASUS VG248QE but I kinda want to try FreeSync/G-Sync, so I got to thinking...

Should I:

-Get a 1440p FreeSync monitor and see how my 7990 handles it, upgrade to Fury X if I need more horsepower
-Just go all in with 980Ti and 1440p G-Sync monitor

Obviously the second option will net the best performance, but is it worth the extra cost vs the first option? I can hold 100+ FPS on high/max settings on most games at 1080p, for reference.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 12:46:13
December 29 2015 12:44 GMT
#11506
1440p is going to be about double the load of a 1080p. What matters more is the FPS low points, not the average -- does it stay above a tolerable minimum? Now, consider if you halved all your framerates: are the lows still tolerable? Further, there's the matter of streaming, if you care about that.

I can tell you that a single GTX 780 6GB runs Witcher 3 on ultra 1440p at ~30fps average and two in SLI ~60.

If I did everything over again I'd go with 1080p instead of the 1440p I use.

I can't really speak to FreeSync vs G-Sync, though.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 16:17:53
December 29 2015 16:14 GMT
#11507
1440p is going to be about double the load of a 1080p.


1.78x more pixels, but actual FPS drop seems to be a bit less than that - so 1080p would run likely ~1.65x higher FPS. It varies depending on the architecture a bit

I can tell you that a single GTX 780 6GB runs Witcher 3 on ultra 1440p at ~30fps average and two in SLI ~60.


Yeah, but i gained 50fps with a single 980 by disabling hairworks @ launch - that game gave me like 40fps at ultra, 140fps at med-upper settings at launch lol (it was sub-60fps on 1080p on the fastest single GPU at launch with everything up because of the amount of very inefficient settings)

I'd rather run 1080p w/ a 980ti IMO - to run higher is to turn down graphics, run lower framerates or take the awkwardness and latency penalties of multi-GPU. You also force yourself into a cycle of aggressive upgrades to stay on the cutting edge needed to run new games on 1440p + high graphics and FPS, unless you cut back on one or more of those things.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
December 30 2015 04:22 GMT
#11508
I don't know.. I feel like a 980Ti would never dip below 144fps at 1080p in most games, which doesn't play into the best strengths of adaptive sync, right?

My 7990 is still pretty strong at this res so maybe I should just get a 1080p FreeSync monitor? But then I'm locked into AMD GPUs...
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-30 05:46:15
December 30 2015 04:51 GMT
#11509
The main benefit of async is losing less effective smoothness due to frametime variance IMO. That works at any framerate.

It's not that hard to find games that you can't max and run at super high framerates - you can even add 2-4x msaa etc if you have the horsepower. Crysis 3 at 1080p with no AA only runs at ~100fps on a stock 980ti and that game is coming on three years old. You don't need the power especially if you're turning down the settings that hurt performance a lot, but it is helpful.

Single GPU is notably better latency than dual

IMO just buy 2016 flagship. You can do 1440p either way but it will mean turning down a lot of settings to get that ~1.7x FPS hit back on the demanding games (the beauty of a setup like that is running less demanding/older games at full resolution and FPS)

7990 and 980ti are fairly similar perf if you judge by FPS alone. 980ti is just a bit higher, single GPU, lower power, maybe more OC headroom, double VRAM, better drivers etc - all around better, but not as great as taking a big upgrade in performance at the same time
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17254 Posts
December 30 2015 05:59 GMT
#11510
If you can't see every individual strand of hair swaying in the breeze, you might as well not play.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-30 07:10:27
December 30 2015 07:09 GMT
#11511
I'm thinking of selling my computer which I built 5 years ago and am wondering how much it would be worth now. I've upgraded a decent amount over the years, only the CPU, mobo, PSU, and case were from the original build.

i5-2500k
ASUS P8P67 motherboard
GTX 705 Ti
16GB (4x4GB) G-skill ripjaws ram
250GB Samsung 840 EVO SSD
2TB WD Green
1TB Toshiba HD
500GB WD Black
550W Antec modular PSU
Cooler Master Hyper 212+ cpu cooler
generic dvd drive
NZXT Lexa S case

I'm selling it to a friend, so there is some flexibility in the pricing. Is $500-600 a good ballpark? It still runs great and can run sc2 easily, which is the heaviest thing he'll be using it for. Thanks!
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
January 01 2016 17:33 GMT
#11512
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msca/en_CA/pdp/productID.327234200

Is this a good purchase as in I should take the bite? (I need to replace my laptop eventually ; but not replacing it now wouldn't kill me)
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17254 Posts
January 02 2016 01:05 GMT
#11513
Look into buying used off Amazon. Can often get pretty new/refurbed ones with warranty for half off.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Roguelike
Profile Joined January 2016
4 Posts
January 02 2016 13:03 GMT
#11514
What do you think of this combo
Ill play on low and propably stream :
CPU : Intel I5 750
GPU : GeForce GTX 650
MOBO: ASUS P7H55-M

Should i change something? I have a tight budget, and i only have the gpu from this
Now i play on
CPU : AMD PHENOM II X4 945
MOBO: GIGABYTE 770T-UD3P
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17254 Posts
January 02 2016 13:17 GMT
#11515
Play what?
twitch.tv/cratonz
Roguelike
Profile Joined January 2016
4 Posts
January 02 2016 13:21 GMT
#11516
SC2 LOTV i guess. Thats why i was posting on Team Liquid xd
GAAAAH I FORGOT IT
That TL is not only for sc2
Sry.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-02 16:11:35
January 02 2016 16:10 GMT
#11517
You can really tell that it's a 7 year old CPU for sc2, though it's one of the better 7 year old CPU's. Especially since blizzard likes to increase the demands of their engine to keep pace with CPU singlethreaded performance improvements, dooming new CPU's to not run that much better and old ones to lose performance relative to playing WOL in 2010

the GPU should be fine for low, but low end old gen and not great for raising graphics or other games.

I don't think you should upgrade from one ~7 year old CPU to another ~7 year old CPU. If you're looking for low budget, you could get used sandy bridge or something like a haswell/skylake pentium.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Roguelike
Profile Joined January 2016
4 Posts
January 02 2016 21:51 GMT
#11518
Thats why i want to buy new MOBO + New CPU. Next target will be new GPU
Daye911
Profile Joined October 2013
United States12 Posts
January 02 2016 23:35 GMT
#11519
Rogue. I'd go for a powerful intel duel core processor if you just want play sc2
future career "Mules Demolitionist"
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey779 Posts
January 03 2016 14:55 GMT
#11520
I know sc2 is graphically light but can a 5450 handle it sub-1080p with medium graphics? Friend needs a cheap second hand and one is available with i3 4170 and 5450.
Age of Mythology forever!
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