EPTComputer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread - Page 575
| Forum Index > Tech Support |
When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly. | ||
|
Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
| ||
|
pEcul!Ar
52 Posts
On December 21 2015 02:56 XenOmega wrote: Thank you for replying! I just noticed that the kijiji ad says 270x (but in the message text, he wrote 270, not sure if mistake or not). Would the "x" edition change your opinion on the matter? Like Cyro said, it's in the details where there might be a very minimal difference, so the difference is nothing noteworthy. http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=558&item_id=066954 <- that's a 270x, and it's cheaper than the regular 270 I linked before, which strikes me as odd but whatever, if the difference would be significant (for example overclocked by a high margin, then the price would be way up as well, which isn't the case here. (obviously, different brands, different tweaks etc.. are available for the 270 and the 270x, and prices are influenced by all those things as well). http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=558&item_id=064649 <- a dual version (sold out though + the difference in the specs except for the double amount of memory is nothing worth mentioning), about the same price as the regular 270 I linked you in my first reply, so the price range is pretty much the same thing, so if you'd go and look for a 270, you might want to search for a customized 270x (overclocked and a custom cooler on it) if possible. Is there a limit to what can be spent on a gpu? If so, what's the budget? We/people on here might be able to recommend an even better gpu depending on the budget, which would always be great. | ||
|
XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
On December 21 2015 05:57 pEcul!Ar wrote: Like Cyro said, it's in the details where there might be a very minimal difference, so the difference is nothing noteworthy. http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=558&item_id=066954 <- that's a 270x, and it's cheaper than the regular 270 I linked before, which strikes me as odd but whatever, if the difference would be significant (for example overclocked by a high margin, then the price would be way up as well, which isn't the case here. (obviously, different brands, different tweaks etc.. are available for the 270 and the 270x, and prices are influenced by all those things as well). http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=558&item_id=064649 <- a dual version (sold out though + the difference in the specs except for the double amount of memory is nothing worth mentioning), about the same price as the regular 270 I linked you in my first reply, so the price range is pretty much the same thing, so if you'd go and look for a 270, you might want to search for a customized 270x (overclocked and a custom cooler on it) if possible. Is there a limit to what can be spent on a gpu? If so, what's the budget? We/people on here might be able to recommend an even better gpu depending on the budget, which would always be great. The sky is the limit! More seriously, my brother is only playing 'non-demanding' games such as Blizzard games (Diablo 3, hearthstone, Heroes of the Storm). His GTX 460 is still doing a decent job, but he is 'limited'. He probably wouldn't be able to play Fallout 4 or Witcher 3 if he wanted, and has to play on my computer. His computer specs, if my memory is right : i-750? or was it 740? If I remember correctly, it is the locked one. 4gb ram gtx 460 PSU shouldn't be a problem, I think he has 600 watt. So we probably can't aim at the higher end GPU market since his CPU might bottleneck the whole thing. That being said, his computer is probably due for an upgrade soon (I got him a SSD a few months ago, which was a huge boost). Would it be worth aiming for a bigger GPU because, down the road, in the next years, he will upgrade the entire system? | ||
|
MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
The only peripheral I'll be getting is a 23 inch monitor 1920 x 1080, I have mouse keyboard, and windows 7 os So I'll be saving money there. Overall budget should be around 700$ I'm not going to be doing anything fancy like overclocking, but I will be picking up a 256/500 Samsung ssd, and maybe a backup hardrive. Probably get a seagate or something but maybe not atm. I'll be buying parts in the U.S so off of amazon or newegg. Some of the parts I'm looking at right now. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147373 160 500gb or 250 for 90$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182295&cm_re=power_supply_rosewell-_-17-182-295-_-Product 450 45$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117563&cm_re=intel_i5-_-19-117-563-_-Product 210 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148545 16gb ram 80$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009421 90$ Acer Monitor what do we need? Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157511 90$ Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487091 And I think thats it? Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153&ignorebbr=1 I also don't plan on doing anything super fancy gaming wise. I mostly play sc2, and maybe some other steam games in the future. I'll probably be using this desktop for light gaming, and potential engineering software. My younger brother will be entering uni soon and will probably do some form of engineering. Kind of why I got the 16gb of ram. Thanks for your help! | ||
|
Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
| ||
|
pEcul!Ar
52 Posts
On December 21 2015 06:32 XenOmega wrote: The sky is the limit! More seriously, my brother is only playing 'non-demanding' games such as Blizzard games (Diablo 3, hearthstone, Heroes of the Storm). His GTX 460 is still doing a decent job, but he is 'limited'. He probably wouldn't be able to play Fallout 4 or Witcher 3 if he wanted, and has to play on my computer. His computer specs, if my memory is right : i-750? or was it 740? If I remember correctly, it is the locked one. 4gb ram gtx 460 PSU shouldn't be a problem, I think he has 600 watt. So we probably can't aim at the higher end GPU market since his CPU might bottleneck the whole thing. That being said, his computer is probably due for an upgrade soon (I got him a SSD a few months ago, which was a huge boost). Would it be worth aiming for a bigger GPU because, down the road, in the next years, he will upgrade the entire system? "In the next years", imo if he's planning on upgrading his whole system I think it's better for him to save up now and get a whole new system as an upgrade (obviously, using the ssd he has now + the hdd and the 600w psu are to be switched over to his new system). I.e. I'd wait 'til he's able to upgrade everything. If he does want a new gpu already, you could go for a higher end but he's not going to be able to enjoy it as much as he would like until everything is upgraded. | ||
Poopi
France12907 Posts
For example let's say mine is 5 years old, would not it be risky to use it on a brand new computer? | ||
|
pEcul!Ar
52 Posts
On December 23 2015 10:58 Poopi wrote: Quick question, after how long would you recommend buying a new PSU instead of using the one from your previous computer if you buy a new one? For example let's say mine is 5 years old, would not it be risky to use it on a brand new computer? I've been using mine in the last 4 systems I've built (except for my very latest one which is used as a secondary system), there's no harm in using it over and over again as long as you have a quality psu (a couple of pages back you'll see me explaining something about PSUs). The moment you notice something's not right with your psu you should stop using it,but not sooner. You might have this psu still working for another year or longer, and a new one dying the first year, shit happens, but as long as the psu is powerful enough and shows no signs of malfunctioning, you don't really need to replace it. | ||
|
MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
Is this fine for a motherboard? | ||
|
pEcul!Ar
52 Posts
On December 24 2015 07:47 MysteryMeat1 wrote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130813 Is this fine for a motherboard? Depends on what you want to do. Never be too cheap when it comes to motherboards, it's a common mistake people make when they go buy parts for an upgrade/new system. | ||
|
dabom88
United States3483 Posts
| ||
|
bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
On December 25 2015 02:21 dabom88 wrote: Alright got my list of parts. This is the first time I'm building, am I going to need to buy something like an IFixIt Toolkit to put it all together? no, you just need a phillips screwdriver, get the one with magnetic bit head and long body to reach corner places. and a good space to work with. oh, and some microfibre cloth in case you need to wipe clean something, Anti-static wrist-strap is not really needed, just touch some metal object that is ground once in a while, like touching your computer case. | ||
|
Craton
United States17274 Posts
On December 25 2015 02:21 dabom88 wrote: Alright got my list of parts. This is the first time I'm building, am I going to need to buy something like an IFixIt Toolkit to put it all together? Since these are explicitly designed for the buyer to assemble, they only require basic tools. The IFixIt toolkit (much of it anyway) is used for things designed where consumers aren't meant to assemble/disassemble, which use an assortment of screws or other bindings that don't fit a flathead/phillips. Pretty much everything in the case will be done by hand or by screwdriver. You may find it handy to have a short screwdriver an allen wrench-shaped screwdriver to get at odd or obstructred locations. There's also a tool that makes removing motherboard standoffs very easy (looks like a thumbscrew, but I don't know the name). | ||
|
Hyren
United States817 Posts
| ||
|
Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Budgets about ~£200-250 - Already have a 560ti ready to go in it + all peripherals. Ive found a couple machines so far i just wanted some opinions or if anyone else had better deals. Looked around at parts but it pretty much added up to the same cost +-£30, if someone can find me parts better/cheaper that'd be good :D http://www.amazon.co.uk/OCHW-Defender-Business-Computer-Operating/dp/B00VLZYIOC/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1451231336&sr=1-2 https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-kinetic-f1-amd-fm2-configurable-micro-atx-ddr3-gaming-pc-fs-151-og.html#t=b3e5j6 Thoughts? | ||
|
calgar
United States1277 Posts
Another option would be to pay more for a Samsung SSD www.newegg.com | ||
|
Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On December 28 2015 08:54 calgar wrote: My Lenovo T420 laptop hard drive died and I was thinking about picking up a ~250 GB SSD to get it up and running again. This www.newegg.com Kingston drive is $78 for 240GB. I've only ever used Western Digital for HDs, but I had a good experience with Kingston RAM. Decent pick up for that price? Another option would be to pay more for a Samsung SSD www.newegg.com That's the drive that kingston downgraded after sending out better versions as review samples. Not worth touching IMO. If you're going for cost, bx200 is available @$60. There's a lot of choice of better drives by $80-90 | ||
|
Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On December 28 2015 00:52 Capped wrote: So im looking to buy a system for my wife. Its going to be for casual use & light gaming (MMOs on low-med graphics and stuff like portal, borderlands) Budgets about ~£200-250 - Already have a 560ti ready to go in it + all peripherals. Ive found a couple machines so far i just wanted some opinions or if anyone else had better deals. Looked around at parts but it pretty much added up to the same cost +-£30, if someone can find me parts better/cheaper that'd be good :D http://www.amazon.co.uk/OCHW-Defender-Business-Computer-Operating/dp/B00VLZYIOC/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1451231336&sr=1-2 https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-kinetic-f1-amd-fm2-configurable-micro-atx-ddr3-gaming-pc-fs-151-og.html#t=b3e5j6 Thoughts? Those are pretty much as cheap as you get APU builds - i checked what you could do with current gen i3 but the pricing is higher. Can get a 250GB 850 evo for £56 shipped right now on amazon so it's worth considering even for a super cheap system http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/yGZF7P ^higher performance, higher price - so maybe useful for you, maybe not | ||
|
Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On December 27 2015 12:07 Hyren wrote: Looking to upgrade from my i3-4160. I am looking at LGA 1150 socket i5s so i don't have to replace my motherboard. I play a wide variety of games from mobas like LoL to more hardware-demanding games like Witcher 3. The two cpus that have caught my eye are the 4460 on SuperBiiz for $165 and there is someone selling an i7 4770 (chip only) on overclock.net for $220. Will the 4770 bring any significant gaming value over the i5? Would it be worth it over the 4460 if I could bargain down a little? The 4770 runs all cores at 3.7ghz while the 4460 is at 3.2, that gives a ~15% performance advantage and then you have hyperthreading on top of that if and when it helps you. With prices that close, it might be worth getting the 4770. If there's a ~4670 for $180 or less, that would be good | ||
|
bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
On December 29 2015 01:04 Cyro wrote: That's the drive that kingston downgraded after sending out better versions as review samples. Not worth touching IMO. If you're going for cost, bx200 is available @$60. There's a lot of choice of better drives by $80-90 I read that Crucial screwed up BX200 pretty badly, it performs pretty damn slow compared to all other competitors. Like BX100 is a must buy for budget build, but BX200 is something to avoid. Haven't check the price but it feel worth it to add a couple more bucks to get the EVO850 on sale or MX200, or may be lucky with some clearance BX100 | ||
| ||
