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Cyro
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pEcul!Ar
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Had a look at it again and what one of the customers said was definitely about the X model, so no idea what makes him say it isn't a full atx mobo.. guess the man is going completely apeshit. | ||
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Justifier
Canada6 Posts
Thank you all so much for your help! I'll go with the Noctua cooler and put a wrap on this build  . | ||
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Dingodile
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It is a good step? I mean I could buy a better GPU next year or later. | ||
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Cyro
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ragnasaur
United States804 Posts
Is it possible to run make a rig under 500 with an i7? Because I also do graphic design. Desktop rig with low sound fans would he great. Any suggestions for whats hot & cheap now would he great. I know sc2 isnt that graphic intense but id like to play the singlr player on high quality & multiplayer on low settings. Thanks for any help | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On December 17 2015 14:04 ragnasaur wrote: Hey everyone. Im trying to build a computer to run SC2! Thats all I really need out of it. Also its got to be under $500! Is it possible to run make a rig under 500 with an i7? Because I also do graphic design. Desktop rig with low sound fans would he great. Any suggestions for whats hot & cheap now would he great. I know sc2 isnt that graphic intense but id like to play the singlr player on high quality & multiplayer on low settings. Thanks for any help A top notch i7, even one from the previous gen (the 4690k) is very expensive. A 4690k with a fan and a mobo together would cost about 500 bucks on their own. Good news is Sc2 is more cpu than gpu limited so you could get a cheaper gpu and a more expensive cpu, but for 500 dollars it's pretty much non-possible to get a nice i7 in a computer. In that range, something like this is possible: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: *ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.98 @ Newegg) Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg) Storage: *Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: *MSI Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card ($189.99 @ Amazon) Case: NZXT Phantom 240 ATX Mid Tower Case ($62.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Amazon) Total: $582.92 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-17 00:08 EST-0500 Though his is more of a "get a nice GPU and a cost-effective CPU" solution, not what you'd want for your CPU heavy work. | ||
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Cyro
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Sc2 performance is based almost entirely on how fast you can run 1 thread, you just need 2 cores (one for the main game thread, one for everything else) that are as fast as possible. For an sc2 dedicated rig - especially if price is a concern - you should be looking at the skylake i3's - the i3 6100-6320. Compared to a 4170, they might cost a bit more but would run it ~12-25% faster ----- if FPS is the concern and you don't mind running at medium settings (like competitive/performance settings) then you can use a very low end GPU and it'll run as well as a flagship GPU. Think something like a gtx950 being overkill. For max max settings, a 950-960 is appropriate; a 960 or r9 380 would probably be a bit overkill. ----- You CAN unlock i3's in some way and raise the bclk to OC to get from ~3.7-4.0ghz base clocks to the mid 4ghz range - about a 10-20% performance gain - but that's quite complicated and new at the moment, not great for a beginner. For officially unlocked chips (that work better and allow for fast memory etc) the one to look at would be the 6600k. Given the graphic design, 6600k might be a good idea. There's nothing wrong with a desktop i3 if it doesn't fit in the budget - they're still better than most of the laptop i5/i7's! ----- capacity isn't a big concern on psu either - a decent 450w PSU is a good buy. Could go much lower if available but it's cost ineffective to buy a low capacity PSU and then replace it later if you decided that you wanted a meaty graphics card. 450 is a safe number  | ||
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SolvusAnima
United States138 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25206057 If my post wasn't actually missed and nobody has time to help me, I apologize! | ||
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Cyro
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bluegarfield
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On December 18 2015 04:27 SolvusAnima wrote: Hello, friends. I'm really sorry if this practice is frowned upon in this thread, but I would still like some help and it seems my post may have been missed amongst the other posts ;-;. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25206057 If my post wasn't actually missed and nobody has time to help me, I apologize! PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.15 @ Vuugo) Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.31 @ DirectCanada) Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Red 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Canada Computers) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 950 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($207.98 @ DirectCanada) Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($38.99 @ NCIX) Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.98 @ NCIX) Total: $695.40 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-17 22:48 EST-0500 May be can use something like this as the base, then make adjustment from there. Price are not from single merchant, as parts are not available, and kinda hit budget limit, so adjustment is likely, see below Since you want to stream, I guess i5 would help, and this is the cheapest i5. not sure if i3 will choke on playing and streaming at the same time. ASRock H97M Anniversary because it's the cheapest motherboard with PCI-E 3.0. I am not sure if PCI-E 2.0 on H81 motherboard will affect the GPU performance. Checking. If nothing major, can drop to H81 motherboard to save ~$30CAD or so. edit: as PCI-E 2.0 is okay, this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gah81mh is cheaper and also work. 1 stick of 8GB RAM for future upgrade and cheap I guess. GTX950 should handle LoL fine. I think something something NVENC help video encoding for streaming. Generic case, not sure if you can reuse your old case. PSU: cheap and usable. Not of highest quality, but given the low power required, nothing will happen. Mostly constraint by budget. There is no HDD as you can try to reuse your HDD from the old PC, save up some more to get a SSD later. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Both are fine for a low end stream (or you can nvenc stream from gpu for higher game performance but less stream quality at the same bitrate) pci-e 2.0 x8 is more than fine | ||
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bluegarfield
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Cyro
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Craton
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Cyro
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On December 18 2015 14:40 Craton wrote: I'm pretty sure there's still some load on the CPU, but it is greatly reduced. Very minor With my CPU (6700k @4.6ghz), if i set x264 veryfast 1920x1080 120fps and spin camera as fast as possible in WoW, the CPU load maxes out at times and recording doesn't work. With nvenc, CPU load peaked at 4% from OBS.exe. Reducing to 1080p30 leaves it bouncing between 1% and 2% CPU load. Usually it's the x264 process generating almost all of the CPU load with these programs, the other functions of OBS (at least with a basic scene setup like i use) are not computationally expensive | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
Maybe a dumb question, but can you run multiple monitors above 60 hz from one card? I know you can use both displayport and DVI-D for 144 hz monitors but wasn't sure if you could use both at the same time, or if one would only run at 60 hz Proposed setup that I want to use is one for a 144hz 24", one for a 105 hz 27" korean monitor, and use the HDMI port for my TV at 60 hz | ||
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Craton
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SolvusAnima
United States138 Posts
On December 18 2015 12:58 bluegarfield wrote: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.15 @ Vuugo) Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.31 @ DirectCanada) Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Red 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Canada Computers) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 950 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($207.98 @ DirectCanada) Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($38.99 @ NCIX) Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.98 @ NCIX) Total: $695.40 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-17 22:48 EST-0500 May be can use something like this as the base, then make adjustment from there. Price are not from single merchant, as parts are not available, and kinda hit budget limit, so adjustment is likely, see below Since you want to stream, I guess i5 would help, and this is the cheapest i5. not sure if i3 will choke on playing and streaming at the same time. ASRock H97M Anniversary because it's the cheapest motherboard with PCI-E 3.0. I am not sure if PCI-E 2.0 on H81 motherboard will affect the GPU performance. Checking. If nothing major, can drop to H81 motherboard to save ~$30CAD or so. edit: as PCI-E 2.0 is okay, this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gah81mh is cheaper and also work. 1 stick of 8GB RAM for future upgrade and cheap I guess. GTX950 should handle LoL fine. I think something something NVENC help video encoding for streaming. Generic case, not sure if you can reuse your old case. PSU: cheap and usable. Not of highest quality, but given the low power required, nothing will happen. Mostly constraint by budget. There is no HDD as you can try to reuse your HDD from the old PC, save up some more to get a SSD later. On December 18 2015 13:10 Cyro wrote: that i5 would encode about 30% faster than the 3.7ghz skylake i3 (which is about i5-2400 level encoding performance, concentrated onto fewer more powerful cores which is better) Both are fine for a low end stream (or you can nvenc stream from gpu for higher game performance but less stream quality at the same bitrate) pci-e 2.0 x8 is more than fine Thank you so, so much. I sincerely appreciate all the input <3 | ||
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vioqor14
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