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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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United Kingdom3341 Posts
On August 12 2015 10:33 Blazinghand wrote: oh yeah good point, there's the new skylake CPUs. honestly depending on how things are stock fan might be fine. I think it usually is if you aren't OCing but I don't know how hot your friend is No fan on the skylake K processors. Really shelling a few dollars out to get an entry level aftermarket cooler is one of the best investments you can do while building a PC though, the reduced noise levels are easily worth it. | ||
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ExChill
Germany179 Posts
Would it be worth getting a Skylake processor? Here are my old posts: #1, #2 | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20300 Posts
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z0rz
United States350 Posts
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Firkraag8
Sweden1006 Posts
Edit: Even with the cheap tower cooler I got Skylake is operating at really low temperatures. AIDA64 CPU stresstest only goes up to 53degrees across all cores. Some random pictures.. I kinda lazied out on re-fixing the cable management that looked so much better with the old setup but w/e it doesn't seem to hinder airflow too much. http://imgur.com/a/2bIAs#0 | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
I'm not sure which Z170 have good phase counts (among other things) so, whereas I'm excited for a new launch, I'm not sure what I would buy. By the way; Thermalright Macho Rev.B looks like a very strong cooler | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
oc'ed to 3.6ghz on i7 920, installed 970. arkham knight runs flawless on max settings now :3 | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On August 13 2015 14:04 jinorazi wrote: omg 970 is huge. oc'ed to 3.6ghz on i7 920, installed 970. arkham knight runs flawless on max settings now :3 Yes, I'm surprised Intel CPUs are relevant after so many years, but I guess that's for GPU intensive games only? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On August 13 2015 16:15 darkness wrote: Yes, I'm surprised Intel CPUs are relevant after so many years, but I guess that's for GPU intensive games only? I was cpu bound all the time on my 4.2 ghz 950. It really depends on the game. I played world of tanks and MMO's mainly. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On August 13 2015 16:15 darkness wrote: Yes, I'm surprised Intel CPUs are relevant after so many years, but I guess that's for GPU intensive games only? I'd imagine so. Large map mod for ck2 runs pretty slow, however I don't know the benchmark of newer cpu of that game with various mods. | ||
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mantequilla
Turkey779 Posts
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel Core i7 920 @ 2.67GHz i7 920 has 1159 points single thread score. OCing from 2.67 to 3.6 is ~30% perf increase. So that makes 1508 points. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD FX-6300 Six-Core FX 6300 has 1410 points single thread score. People used to get 6300's for budget builds 1-2-3 years ago? So, no wonder intel is still relevant  | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
At 4.8 GHz+, it does come close to a Haswell i5. Still not a chip I would recommend unless you specifically want to tinker around with overclocking AMD and seeing for yourself, though. | ||
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mantequilla
Turkey779 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Well yeah bulldozer is severely underwhelming for a reason. ^^ | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20300 Posts
On August 13 2015 17:03 mantequilla wrote: If I may go full ignorant mode: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel Core i7 920 @ 2.67GHz i7 920 has 1159 points single thread score. OCing from 2.67 to 3.6 is ~30% perf increase. So that makes 1508 points. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD FX-6300 Six-Core FX 6300 has 1410 points single thread score. People used to get 6300's for budget builds 1-2-3 years ago? So, no wonder intel is still relevant Passmark is not a good benchmark to use at all still, a 920 faster than 6300 for singlethread score, comparable multi (it gets full performance up to 4 threads and then 4.8x performance under highly multithreaded load, while a 6300 gets full performance up to 3 threads and then ~5.1x performance under highly multithreaded load) they're both pretty ancient already compared to skylake. People like to talk down the gains a lot but: Phenom II @4.4ghz, Piledriver @4.7ghz gets ~115 on cinebench r15 singlethreaded i7 950 @4.1ghz gets 127 Skylake 6600k/6700k exceed 200 by ~4.7ghz You didn't get my point, Incognoto. FX 6300 can more or less run games on stock speed, no? OC a very old Intel a bit and it comes close to stock speed AMD of recent years. That makes a 7 years old intel still usable That's more because of the FX being bad and not updated at all since 3 years ago (literally almost full 3 years) since AMD doesn't want to take the loss doing research and development for CPU's that aren't any good until they have next architecture to start over from the ground up CPU development as a whole has been relatively slow aside from the capability to add way more cores, but still we had like 50-80% gains in 3 tocks. A 10% IPC gain on top of Haswell is a lot of performance - if haswell performance at the same clock speed was already 160% of piledriver, 160*1.1 = 176%. Equivelant to a 16% piledriver IPC gain. So, a gain of 10% over Haswell is a fairly big deal, since you're multiplying more initial performance | ||
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IceHism
United States1903 Posts
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RainWhisper
United Arab Emirates333 Posts
Went shopping today and after going back and forth i ended up going with an MSI GTX 960. Unfortunately it was in it's box the whole day because i had way too much work. Right before bed(now) i got a chance to set it up and i just tried the Witcher for literally less than a minute and the game is smooth on high settings. Sucks that i have to work tomorrow as well as Saturday. (Our Weekends are Friday and Saturday). But anyway, i'll try to sneak some game time. Thanks a lot you two!!! You made a 28 year old feel 12 again. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20300 Posts
So i have 16 GB ram and my computer only uses about 9-10 gb of it when i have chrome + a game open but then why is windows 10 telling me that i'm running out of memory and may need to close some programs? That message also pops up when you're running out of VRAM to the point where it affects performance. I got it a lot with my 970 especially when playing VRAM intensive games in windowed or windowed fullscreen modes (as opposed to true fullscreen) because then the desktop can eat a few hundred MB of VRAM and leave only ~3.3GB for the game. You can monitor VRAM usage in a pretty cool lightweight application called "gpu-z" - what GPU do you have and what game, settings, resolution etc is it? --- @MarwanBaki - cool, glad you like it :D | ||
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Mistakes
United States1102 Posts
On August 13 2015 16:15 darkness wrote: Yes, I'm surprised Intel CPUs are relevant after so many years, but I guess that's for GPU intensive games only? The i7-920 started choking hard on SC2 in 2012. | ||
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