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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
What I want to do: - Play games like LoL, Dota, Heroes etc but also upcoming titles on graphic settings high/ultra 60fps - Stream/record stuff for youtube I looked at this http://www.logicalincrements.com/ for the price range 600-800 euros http://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/wiki/builds#wiki_the_end-all Am I good when I follow these? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
it's better to get a 2x4GB RAM kit to insure you get the same IC's for compatibility and performance (that RAM is out of stock anyway) The XFX DD 290 has extremely bad VRM cooling to the level of causing throttling on stock settings i've heard. It's one to avoid. The PSU choice is bad That mobo is freakishly low priced and i have no idea why (but again that's a US build and the prices/justifications for parts don't really apply here) About The holy future-proof build. It's got a stronger GPU, power supply built for the future, an i5 Intel CPU that will easily handle any GPU for the next 3 years, and excellent long-life components all around. I don't think that really applies to that build with not-great PSU (though it's 200-300w over needed capacity) and one of, if not THE worst 290's for VRM cooling. They're pretty average tier parts. Also the "easily handle any GPU for the next 3 years" quote implies a bad understanding of CPU vs GPU limits, where and why they happen etc. The i5 4440 does 3.1ghz on four cores, while the 4690 does 3.7ghz on four cores and the 4670 does 3.6ghz on four cores and is compatible with everything. That's a ~19.3% increase in CPU performance which might matter to you. Q: Why no i7? A: Nope. Gaming doesn't benefit from i7s. LOL and his source is Destiny  stick to here + overclock.net for hardware stuff, not really pcmr. Quite funny stuff there sometimes but it's self moderated by a huge community that's generally not that specialized into actual hardware knowledge | ||
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Really liked the lists they offered :/ Is there something similar but made by a smaller community? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On February 11 2015 07:52 Cyro wrote: Eventually you'll play 200fps @144hz on single GPU with pre-rendered frames 1 and be like OH MY GOD WHY DID I DO THIS TO MYSELF D: It's not so bad with 2 gpu's but it's enough for me to recommend not using three for 60hz. hf LOL. That is probably completely true. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
Any suggestions? | ||
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mantequilla
Turkey781 Posts
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On February 13 2015 04:16 ComaDose wrote: I think I am going to wait another paycheck before buying my computer. Was planning on getting an XFS 290 for the lower cost but I think I would prefer a better make 970 (would really love a 980 but I dont think I should spend that much). I understand the general consensus here is that it doesn't matter too much that the 970 doesn't hit its benchmarks its still a good card. And being newish to building/overclocking I understand the 970 is a little more forgiving with the lower required voltage and temperatures. But i'm also considering going for a better make of 290 with better cooling and still costs less. I have MSI GAMING GTX 980 and it's really quiet. SC2 on Ultra settings doesn't go above 53-55 C, and it's usually less than that. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
On February 13 2015 06:29 darkness wrote: I have MSI GAMING GTX 980 and it's really quiet. SC2 on Ultra settings doesn't go above 53-55 C, and it's usually less than that. yeah but its ~$700 CAD which is too high for me. edit: although mayyyyyybe i'll invest if I wait a little longer. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Also, that sc2 stuff - sc2 is graphically light. I can make it not go over like 38-40c on a 980. My 770 on 1080p wasn't challenged at all, like it had 20% GPU load on ultra during fights and 720p is 2.25x less pixels. A 750 or maybe even a 750ti (or a 260x, 270) would be good choice. Any of those cards would have no trouble with sc2 on 720p at ANY settings. | ||
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TerranHwaiting
Korea (North)179 Posts
On February 13 2015 05:28 mantequilla wrote: Could you guys recommend a good budget gpu for 720p gaming? Is GTX 960 overkill? I'd rather buy a 280x or a used GTX770. Its about the same price, but way better performance. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
On February 13 2015 07:35 TerranHwaiting wrote: I'd rather buy a 280x or a used GTX770. Its about the same price, but way better performance. It's not way better. The 770 is arguably better, but also lacks stuff like MFAA. The performance gap is not large, particularly when both are overclocked. | ||
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mantequilla
Turkey781 Posts
A gtx960 on 720p is stronger than a gtx980 on 1080p So, It's an overkill for 720p, right? Hmm... The thing is, with a 1080p monitor I kinda strain my budget. If I go down to 720p, might as well pair it with a lower end gpu. What should it be?  | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
A 750-750ti or 260x-265-270-270x would be good choice. | ||
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mantequilla
Turkey781 Posts
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On February 11 2015 09:19 Cyro wrote: logicalincrements is not so great especially if you're outside of US, the PCMR build is alright but: it's better to get a 2x4GB RAM kit to insure you get the same IC's for compatibility and performance (that RAM is out of stock anyway) The XFX DD 290 has extremely bad VRM cooling to the level of causing throttling on stock settings i've heard. It's one to avoid. The PSU choice is bad That mobo is freakishly low priced and i have no idea why (but again that's a US build and the prices/justifications for parts don't really apply here) I don't think that really applies to that build with not-great PSU (though it's 200-300w over needed capacity) and one of, if not THE worst 290's for VRM cooling. They're pretty average tier parts. Also the "easily handle any GPU for the next 3 years" quote implies a bad understanding of CPU vs GPU limits, where and why they happen etc. The i5 4440 does 3.1ghz on four cores, while the 4690 does 3.7ghz on four cores and the 4670 does 3.6ghz on four cores and is compatible with everything. That's a ~19.3% increase in CPU performance which might matter to you. LOL and his source is Destiny stick to here + overclock.net for hardware stuff, not really pcmr. Quite funny stuff there sometimes but it's self moderated by a huge community that's generally not that specialized into actual hardware knowledge How would you change the builds I linked? | ||
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Zyufin
United States85 Posts
I don't plan to rebuild any time soon, so if there's a case for spending a little extra I don't mind. Let me know what you think. Thanks! + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? $1200 (i'm flexible though) What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Dota 2, SC2, WoW, Hearthstone, CS: GO, whatever catches my fancy. Max settings. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Streaming, hobbyist video and sound work, programming. Do you intend to overclock? Sure Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No Do you need an operating system? Yes, windows Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? None in this budget. If anyone has any recommendations on DAC/audio interface stuff feel free to share. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. None What country will you be buying your parts in? U.S. If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. None | ||
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