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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Metak
Profile Joined August 2011
296 Posts
September 27 2013 21:47 GMT
#761
+ Show Spoiler [Build Questions] +

What is your budget?
Around €1000

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920×1080

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
StarCraft 2, World of Warcraft, League of Legends, DotA2 - High to Ultra settings. Preferably the system would last a couple of years, being able to play new online multiplayer releases on Medium to High settings.

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Heavy Creative Suite usage (PS, ID, Ill), coding, occasional short film editing. Might consider streaming.

Do you intend to overclock?
Not familiar with it, so no.

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No.

Do you need an operating system?
No.

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
No.

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
I am planning to build a Hackintosh system and dualbooting W8. As OSX requires specific compatible components, my options are rather limited. The build I put together is an assembly from this Hackintosh community. I'm unsure if people here are familiar with building Hackintosh systems, but for the sake of exposing my build to multiple opinions I would like it if this thread could have a look.

What country will you be buying your parts in?
The Netherlands

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
None.


+ Show Spoiler [Build so far] +

Intel Core i5 4670K Boxed € 198,90

Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H € 118,90

EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW SIG2 € 319,-

Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST1000DM003, 1TB € 53,50

Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 € 35,50

TP-Link TL-WDN4800 € 33,32

Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 € 67,95

Corsair CX500M € 53,89

Sandisk Extreme 120GB € 96,38


€ 977,34
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 22:10:22
September 27 2013 22:07 GMT
#762
On September 28 2013 06:21 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 05:18 Forgottenfrog wrote:
What is your current build?
xps700. I am not able to get the specification from it because it does not work. When I turn it on, the fan run but that is about it. The computer does not really start and I do not know what is wrong with it. Since I had the computer for 8 years, its about time to upgrade.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/dell-xps-700-intel/4507-3118_7-31972975.html

-Intel core duo
-2gb ram ddr2
-nvidia geforce 7900gtx x2

I got the computer as a gift in high school and it holds a lot of sentimental value so I do not want to toss it away. I want to fix/upgrade whatever that is necessary.

What is your monitor's native resolution?
24" dell monitor I got 8 years ago that came with xps700.

Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
I want to upgrade because my current desktop computer stopped working. I want to be able to play SC2 and Dota2 with high settings.

What is your budget?
$500-$800

What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA-california

If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify.
I have no preference as long as the system works well and last long.

-edit- I can take pictures of parts or record what happens when I press the power button if u guys need it. Also there's a light that stays on that is located on the motherboard if that points to any signs. It stays on regardless of being on or off.

It's not worth upgrading. Because upgrading is literally throwing away everything but the case and the PSU (if it's a custom form factor).

I would just start new and get a 1080p monitor while your at it.

E: The graphics card is most likely dead.


Okay lets start new, where do I begin? The PSU is 1000watts so I think it's worth keeping.

What is your budget?
500-800

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920×1080

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
sc2/dota2 highest setting possible

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
nothing else

Do you intend to overclock?
no but if its cheaper to get one that does than I am open to it.

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
no

Do you need an operating system?
no

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
depending on cost I am open to buying a new monitor at a later time. main thing is that I want a desktop running again.

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
no preferences at all. just any brand name that's reliable.

What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA- California

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
no preferences
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20341 Posts
September 27 2013 22:56 GMT
#763
What PSU model? rated wattage isn't the best way to judge them
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20341 Posts
September 27 2013 23:47 GMT
#764
R270 is HD 7950 re-boxed and these shall be reference design in beginning and prices from £170 region, so same as our lowest price 7950′s. So OcUK is already at the new price, the newly boxed R270′s will arrive middle-end October.

R280X is the HD 7970 GHz re-boxed and these shall be reference design in beginning and prices shall be around £230 region, so same again as our lowest priced 7970′s. This makes our current Asus 7970′s a bargain as they are TOP and Platinum cards, the equivalent of these in R280 X shall be in the £250-£300 region and available in their R280 X packaging around end of October.

R290 X unfortunately I cannot release pricing or specification info yet, but price wise its similar to GTX 780 but slightly faster, right now, of course AMD could change the launch price at any time.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
September 28 2013 00:19 GMT
#765
What does everyone think of the possible effects of the new Mantle API?

I found this article interesting:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7371/understanding-amds-mantle-a-lowlevel-graphics-api-for-gcn

The comparison to the old D3D and Glide days was somewhat concerning though...
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20341 Posts
September 28 2013 00:44 GMT
#766
Could be good for price:performance in a few titles, like bf4. If it were easy to implement on a wide scale across a ton of different hardware though, it would have been done before, we use directx/opengl for a reason
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 28 2013 01:15 GMT
#767
On September 28 2013 09:44 Cyro wrote:
Could be good for price:performance in a few titles, like bf4. If it were easy to implement on a wide scale across a ton of different hardware though, it would have been done before, we use directx/opengl for a reason


It should be pretty easy to implement across a ton of different hardware, if by that you mean everything AMD makes on GCN. Everything else, including HD 6xxx and earlier, their first couple of generations of APUs, and anything from Nvidia and Intel won't support it unless Nvidia and Intel somehow want to spend years coming up with new GPU architectures so they can readily run their competitor's API.

And it kind of was done before with Glide, but that was in a very different market.

As with anything, low-level commands mean less abstraction and generally better performance so long as you optimize things. It may be more difficult to program, and all sorts of current industry professionals who've been implementing on DirectX (okay, and OpenGL) aren't going to be familiar with it.

It may mean that certain console ports (particularly those with larger initial development budgets, higher-performance stuff, and later on in the console life cycles when everybody is more familiar with the hardware and squeezing all the last drops out of performance) will run relatively well on new AMD hardware for a while. For PC developers, I don't imagine many will use it unless they have close relationships with AMD. Unless the performance gains are huge, it's not worth the effort to use Mantle when you already have to write the games to use DirectX / OpenGL for compatibility with everything other than GCN-based GPUs. It's not like the install base of GCN GPUs is that large now.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
September 28 2013 01:17 GMT
#768
On September 28 2013 07:07 Forgottenfrog wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On September 28 2013 06:21 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 05:18 Forgottenfrog wrote:
What is your current build?
xps700. I am not able to get the specification from it because it does not work. When I turn it on, the fan run but that is about it. The computer does not really start and I do not know what is wrong with it. Since I had the computer for 8 years, its about time to upgrade.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/dell-xps-700-intel/4507-3118_7-31972975.html

-Intel core duo
-2gb ram ddr2
-nvidia geforce 7900gtx x2

I got the computer as a gift in high school and it holds a lot of sentimental value so I do not want to toss it away. I want to fix/upgrade whatever that is necessary.

What is your monitor's native resolution?
24" dell monitor I got 8 years ago that came with xps700.

Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
I want to upgrade because my current desktop computer stopped working. I want to be able to play SC2 and Dota2 with high settings.

What is your budget?
$500-$800

What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA-california

If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify.
I have no preference as long as the system works well and last long.

-edit- I can take pictures of parts or record what happens when I press the power button if u guys need it. Also there's a light that stays on that is located on the motherboard if that points to any signs. It stays on regardless of being on or off.

It's not worth upgrading. Because upgrading is literally throwing away everything but the case and the PSU (if it's a custom form factor).

I would just start new and get a 1080p monitor while your at it.

E: The graphics card is most likely dead.


Okay lets start new, where do I begin? The PSU is 1000watts so I think it's worth keeping.

What is your budget?
500-800

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920×1080

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
sc2/dota2 highest setting possible

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
nothing else

Do you intend to overclock?
no but if its cheaper to get one that does than I am open to it.

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
no

Do you need an operating system?
no

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
depending on cost I am open to buying a new monitor at a later time. main thing is that I want a desktop running again.

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
no preferences at all. just any brand name that's reliable.

What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA- California

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
no preferences


While searching through the Combo Deals I found this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1418432

i5-4430
ASRock H87 Pro4
4GB (1x4GB) DDR4-1600
EVGA GTX 650 Ti 1GB
Seagate 1TB HDD
Cooler Master HAF 912
Rosewill Capstone 450
DVD Burner

$590

Now add another 4GB stick of RAM $38
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239312

$628

It's slightly cheaper than the build I was build and I think it's perfect for what you want.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
uNrexL
Profile Joined December 2011
United States12 Posts
September 28 2013 01:29 GMT
#769
I recently bought Gigabyte z87x-ud3 and Bit Fenix Survivor for my first attempt at building a desktop. I'm having issues setting up the case fans i believe they are 3 pins and my mother board only has 4 pins if anyone can help that would be great because I am lost.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
September 28 2013 01:45 GMT
#770
You just plug it in...it doesn't matter if it's 3pin or 4 (except CPU fan) and there is little guides on the connectors so you plug them into the correct pins.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
uNrexL
Profile Joined December 2011
United States12 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 02:29:13
September 28 2013 02:22 GMT
#771
I see where SYS and CPU ports are but I'm still lost -.- lol I have everything else set up just cant seem to find where it goes.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 28 2013 02:40 GMT
#772
The UD3H has like three or four fan headers plus the CPU fan header. You just plug the case fans into any system fan header. The headers have a notch so you can only plug them in one way.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
September 28 2013 02:41 GMT
#773
CPU fan goes in the CPU header.

Case fans go into the SYS headers.

[image loading]

Viola, through the magic that is the internet here is a picture depicting a 3pin fan plugging into a a 4pin header.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
uNrexL
Profile Joined December 2011
United States12 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 03:11:54
September 28 2013 03:04 GMT
#774
I have 3 SYS headers I plugged one in and started the PC then it brought up system repair is that normal? Then I plugged one into SYS 1 and SYS3 and it wouldn't turn on.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20341 Posts
September 28 2013 03:12 GMT
#775
You already had OS installed on a HDD?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
uNrexL
Profile Joined December 2011
United States12 Posts
September 28 2013 03:15 GMT
#776
I installed it on my new HDD I shouldn't have yet? =0
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 28 2013 03:25 GMT
#777
How do you have it installed if this is your first time booting up? If you installed it on another system and than transferred it over than no you shouldn't have done that since the two systems are not identical so Windows is detecting a conflict.
uNrexL
Profile Joined December 2011
United States12 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 03:53:07
September 28 2013 03:28 GMT
#778
I booted it before everything works fine I just didn't notice the fans on the case not working.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20341 Posts
September 28 2013 04:11 GMT
#779
So your system doesn't boot when you plug new fans in, but it does without them?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
uNrexL
Profile Joined December 2011
United States12 Posts
September 28 2013 04:18 GMT
#780
Yes. When I had plugged in both the PC wouldn't start. When I had one plugged in it started but had the option to fix it or start windows normally.
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