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On July 25 2014 11:53 wptlzkwjd wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 10:16 ridic wrote:Alright. Going to go w/ the 270. Is there a reason this is so cheap? http://www.ncix.com/detail/xfx-radeon-r9-270-core-1d-94992-1031.htmDecided to go with an i5-4690k. I was leaning toward an i7 because I want to stream. Also, I play csgo, which doesn't require a high end gpu for high frames, which is why I was considering an i7 with a 270. for the mobo, are you suggesting that gigabyte board? I am confused. Does streaming require hyperthreading? o.O
You can encode about 20% faster with HT if you keep frequency the same. Without delidded CPU though it often costs you ~200mhz to enable HT, so the speedup is actually less (like 1.15x)
Also for encoding.. you have to remember that a 4690k on air is about as fast as an 8320. I've seen i5 beating fx 8 threads clock for clock in some benches - Haswell is very strong for encoding video, and it's rare for a realistic live encoding load to only be manageable by a 4770k or lga2011 CPU.
We're usually not held back in a major way by encoding speed for streaming, at least for the games that don't use a lot of cores very well. Sc2 for example only puts significant load on one core, so a 2600k or 4690k at pushed OC's can handle like 1080p60 encoding while playing. For other games, 720p60/1080p30 isn't half as hard - and you usually don't want to use more with "only" 3500kbit bitrate limit. In terms of how high FPS the game runs at.. while streaming 1080p30, an i5 @4.7ghz would often run game at higher FPS than i7 @4.5ghz, so it's just really hard to justify the added cost unless you're delidding or going all out with lga1150
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http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/Njcst6
Alright so I've taken in everyone's suggestions and I think I'll go with the Z97 and 4690k since I don't think I want to delid.
I've also done a bit of research and chosen the EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti card. I wasn't too sure about the RAM but I've heard good things about the Ares series so I went with them. I wasn't 100% sure on this though, was tossing between Ares and Ripjaws but I honestly don't know the difference.
The case was super hard to choose so I went with the suggested one but if theres an even better one someone knows off the top of their head please so suggest!
Pretty sure the PSU is a bit overboard so should I knock it down to a 600W?
I'm open to changing anything so please do post any suggestions!
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1 page late but thanks
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Hey guys, quick q.
My sound card stopped working (speakers and headphones plugged in were muted) so I shut down, shoved the card in its pci slot and booted up again. Now it's ok. Should I be concerned about anything? Never happened before
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On July 26 2014 03:33 Sephyr wrote:http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/Njcst6Alright so I've taken in everyone's suggestions and I think I'll go with the Z97 and 4690k since I don't think I want to delid. I've also done a bit of research and chosen the EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti card. I wasn't too sure about the RAM but I've heard good things about the Ares series so I went with them. I wasn't 100% sure on this though, was tossing between Ares and Ripjaws but I honestly don't know the difference. The case was super hard to choose so I went with the suggested one but if theres an even better one someone knows off the top of their head please so suggest! Pretty sure the PSU is a bit overboard so should I knock it down to a 600W? I'm open to changing anything so please do post any suggestions!
Different mobo for running high OC, maybe giga z97x-gaming 5
there's probably a good 550-650w unit that's cheaper, those prices ouch
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Hey just wanted to say that that OP was great. I was able to easily find everything I was looking for and build my new pc with nary a hiccup. No questions, just thanks a lot to all the TL tech who made everything so easy to read and easy to understand. Thanks again, you guys are awesome!
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Hey guys, i have a question. Using your help i bought myself a computer two months ago i have an i5 4670 k anda gtx750 ti and am running Windows 8. I originally got a 22" monitor which works great but my friend recently got a new monitor and gave me his old one. It is a SyncMaster 920nw and I am trying to set it up as my second monitor until I save up for a better one. I am having a problem doing so however. Because the 920nw is an analog only monitor, I bought a dual VGA to DVI splitter. The monitor powers on, and holding the menu button prompts the monitor to say test good with a picture of the connection. The trouble is my computer doesnt recognize it as a device. I manually installed the drivers which didnt help. When I click on my original 22" monitor in my devices tab, the properties tab comes up, under hardware: device functions, It lists the 920nw as a monitor type. My question is how do I make the 920nw its own device so I can set it up. Thanks for the help in advance.
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Have you tried switching around the ports you plug your monitor into? Because afaik GTX 750 Ti comes with one DVI-D (digital only) and one DVI-I (analog or digital) port.
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On July 27 2014 11:38 skyR wrote:
Have you tried switching around the ports you plug your monitor into? Because afaik GTX 750 Ti comes with one DVI-D (digital only) and one DVI-I (analog or digital) port.
It comes with a display port, hdmi, and 1 dvi-D
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All those ports are digital only so unfortunately you will need a new monitor or buy a very expensive active DP adapter.
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On July 27 2014 11:53 skyR wrote:
All those ports are digital only so unfortunately you will need a new monitor or buy a very expensive active DP adapter.
even if I use a analog to digital adapter?
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You would need an active adapter, which are quite expensive the last time I checked.
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That's DP to DVI so not sure if it'd work with a VGA adapter as well.
edit: reviews mention that it does not work with DVI > VGA.
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What about the CPU's integrated graphics? Does the motherboard have a VGA output for this? If you have that, you could use it for this second monitor. It can't really do 3D games, but it can definitely be used for desktop stuff, a video player and web browser.
To see if the integrated graphics are currently enabled, you open the Device Manager in Windows and look at the graphics adapter section. If you only see the NVIDIA card over there, it's currently disabled. This is because the board by default disables integrated graphics if it sees a real graphics card.
To enable the Intel graphics, you restart and go into the BIOS. Look for a section that's maybe named "peripherals" or similar. Look for the integrated graphics setting and change that setting to explicitely say "Enabled" (it's currently probably "Auto").
After that go back into Windows. You should now see a second graphics adapter with a generic name. After waiting a bit, Windows Update will have downloaded the Intel driver automatically in the background. After it's ready, it will change the name to something "Intel" and will then work.
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On July 27 2014 12:21 Ropid wrote:
What about the CPU's integrated graphics? Does the motherboard have a VGA output for this? If you have that, you could use it for this second monitor. It can't really do 3D games, but it can definitely be used for desktop stuff, a video player and web browser.
To see if the integrated graphics are currently enabled, you open the Device Manager in Windows and look at the graphics adapter section. If you only see the NVIDIA card over there, it's currently disabled. This is because the board by default disables integrated graphics if it sees a real graphics card.
To enable the Intel graphics, you restart and go into the BIOS. Look for a section that's maybe named "peripherals" or similar. Look for the integrated graphics setting and change that setting to explicitely say "Enabled" (it's currently probably "Auto").
After that go back into Windows. You should now see a second graphics adapter with a generic name. After waiting a bit, Windows Update will have downloaded the Intel driver automatically in the background. After it's ready, it will change the name to something "Intel" and will then work.
It is quite late here, I will try that tomorrow
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What is your budget?
$800-900
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920 x 1080
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
SC2, League, MMORPGS. All hopefully to be played on high+ settings
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Nothing really, other than homework stuff, but that's not a problem. Primarily gaming.
Do you intend to overclock?
No.
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No.
Do you need an operating system?
Yes
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
No.
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
I would like to have an SSD with the build. Also, capable of streaming with no problems.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
Newegg?
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On July 27 2014 12:21 Ropid wrote:
What about the CPU's integrated graphics? Does the motherboard have a VGA output for this? If you have that, you could use it for this second monitor. It can't really do 3D games, but it can definitely be used for desktop stuff, a video player and web browser.
To see if the integrated graphics are currently enabled, you open the Device Manager in Windows and look at the graphics adapter section. If you only see the NVIDIA card over there, it's currently disabled. This is because the board by default disables integrated graphics if it sees a real graphics card.
To enable the Intel graphics, you restart and go into the BIOS. Look for a section that's maybe named "peripherals" or similar. Look for the integrated graphics setting and change that setting to explicitely say "Enabled" (it's currently probably "Auto").
After that go back into Windows. You should now see a second graphics adapter with a generic name. After waiting a bit, Windows Update will have downloaded the Intel driver automatically in the background. After it's ready, it will change the name to something "Intel" and will then work.
That worked, Thank you!
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