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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
September 20 2013 13:00 GMT
#621
did you try with power saving features turned off? Also, is that 326 or 327 driver?
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
September 20 2013 13:28 GMT
#622
Tried 3 driver families (and like 10 drivers in them) from 320 to 326, downloaded the 327 yesterday but didn't try it. Could try 314 i think it was, but i'm pretty sure this happened for years across onto my last system too. It's so hard to say if it's me or the game has a major issue with nvidia drivers or something because it seems like many sc2 players are insensitive to low performance (i get told on a weekly basis that stock core 2 duo can hold 60fps with maxed armies and physics if i'm active on a few other sites)

My card's not locked at 1293mhz, but there's no easy way to do that. GPU load is so tiny, i'd like to try it just locked at 1293 but seems difficult. I still got the stutters when the game was maxed early game, so card didn't leave 1293/7.6g
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
MinKi
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)151 Posts
September 20 2013 14:22 GMT
#623
Hey guys, I would just like your honest opinion about pricing for a gaming desktop. The guy selling it on craigslist didn't put a price up, he's just saying give offers. What do you think is the lowest you should pay for this rig:

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-computers-desktop-computers-X79-6-Core-Intel-Extreme-Edition-Computer-Tower-W0QQAdIdZ525527346



This is not my ad, I'm not trying to advertise here, I'm just trying to get your help.
"I'm a starcraft jock. I'm not a nerd" - Artosis
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 20 2013 15:09 GMT
#624
Lowest? Should? Do you mean the highest it's worth to you? For the lowest, I'd pay $0 for it, but I could be convinced of higher figures too.

Also, fill out the OP questionnaire.

Likely prices will be too high because it has an i7-3930K / X79, which is worse than much cheaper gear for gaming. For strict gaming purposes or other general tasks, I would say no more than $800, which is probably a lot less than the person wants. It's worth more if you're doing other things with the machine.
MinKi
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)151 Posts
September 20 2013 15:20 GMT
#625
On September 21 2013 00:09 Myrmidon wrote:
Lowest? Should? Do you mean the highest it's worth to you? For the lowest, I'd pay $0 for it, but I could be convinced of higher figures too.

Also, fill out the OP questionnaire.

Likely prices will be too high because it has an i7-3930K / X79, which is worse than much cheaper gear for gaming. For strict gaming purposes or other general tasks, I would say no more than $800, which is probably a lot less than the person wants. It's worth more if you're doing other things with the machine.

Thanks for the reply. Basically I need a gaming computer and this caught my eye. If you say 800 is a fair price for it ok, I offered him 1100, he said he'll do 1200.
"I'm a starcraft jock. I'm not a nerd" - Artosis
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 16:00:32
September 20 2013 15:28 GMT
#626
$1100 is way too much. You can get a new Haswell build with a better current-gen GPU and SSD and have money left over with that kind of budget. Most of the parts are total wastes of money for gaming (which inflates the price), and you'd be stuck with a hot and loud older-gen graphics card.

edit: it's not that $800 is a fair price for that hardware. It's that such parts aren't worth more than around that for gaming. It's a problem of a bad match for you. e.g. you need a heavy-duty hammer and you're trying to haggle down somebody's wrecking ball to unreasonable levels ($650 would be good) because you're the wrong kind of buyer for a wrecking ball and really just need a hammer

Uh, you get what I mean. Hopefully.
MinKi
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)151 Posts
September 20 2013 15:55 GMT
#627
On September 21 2013 00:28 Myrmidon wrote:
$1100 is way too much. You can get a new Haswell build with a better current-gen GPU and SSD and have money left over with that kind of budget. Most of the parts are total wastes of money for gaming (which inflates the price), and you'd be stuck with a hot and loud older-gen graphics card.

thank you very much for your honest opinion, I wasn't ready to jump the gun on the 1200. I'll take your word for it and stay away.
"I'm a starcraft jock. I'm not a nerd" - Artosis
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 16:35:40
September 20 2013 16:26 GMT
#628
Powercolor Radeon HD 7870 PCs 2GB 4.8GBPS @ 169.99 (with 30$ rebate, so 139.99). It's supposed to be on sale on NCIX (100$ off regular price)

Good or not?

Computer specs are :
2500k i5
8gb ram
season 420W

at the same price range, there is ASUS GeForce GTX 660 OC DirectCU 1020MHZ 2GB 6.0GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Video Card 189$ (169$ after 20 rebate)

I'm looking for the best upgrade for below 200$. Can go higher if needed... but right now, I'm only playing League of Legends, and my x1650 can run it (granted very poorly, but still playable). Of course, I can hold before purchasing and wait for new games
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 20 2013 16:39 GMT
#629
Either would be huge upgrades over the X1650, seriously, and of course way overkill for LoL.

The HD 7870 is a better value because performance is pretty similar, but personally I'd rather have the GTX 660 because many Asus 600 series DirectCU cards, including that one, were supposed to be very quiet.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 17:30:09
September 20 2013 17:29 GMT
#630
I agree with Myrmidon. Generally you can assume the 7870 is going to have a little bit better performance than the 660 - if the relative difference in power even matters for the game you're playing - and it's cheaper, but quietness does matter. At least for me.

Sometimes I might recommend a 7950 to someone asking for the best video card at about $200. But in this case I just want to emphasize the TREMENDOUS level of overkill both cards are for playing LoL. If you don't anticipate a strong desire to play on max settings in other games, you could also consider cheaper options, like a 7790 or something like that.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 18:09:57
September 20 2013 17:32 GMT
#631
1200's good (actually maybe not, thinking about it) maybe IF you want the sb-e cpu and you trust him at his word for what voltages he used for it etc, but like said not optimal for a gaming build. It's a sb-e build, not a gaming build

I had to laugh at this:

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ EVO Heatsink equipped with two Corsair SP 120 High Performance 2350 RPM Fans in Push/Pull. Amazing 62.74 CFM at max. This setup beats most watercooled setups under H100.


True, and he makes it sound good, but of course it beats them. Sub-240mm rad clc's are pretty trash and he's running a pair of sp120 high performance's. It's not like it's good cooling, he's still basing it on a heatsink that you can get for 20 dollars
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
September 20 2013 17:39 GMT
#632
On September 21 2013 01:39 Myrmidon wrote:
Either would be huge upgrades over the X1650, seriously, and of course way overkill for LoL.

The HD 7870 is a better value because performance is pretty similar, but personally I'd rather have the GTX 660 because many Asus 600 series DirectCU cards, including that one, were supposed to be very quiet.


Ty both of you

Money is a little bit of an issue

So if performance wise it's equal, I'm tempted to go for the cheaper. I sometimes play Counterstrike GO, BF3 or TF2, but most of the times, I'm only play LoL and other Blizzard's games (which are not known for being too demanding)
PeterDLai
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States924 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 18:34:39
September 20 2013 18:34 GMT
#633
What's the cheapest CPU that won't severely bottleneck something like this in modern games?: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2578872
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
September 20 2013 18:40 GMT
#634
Depends what games you're talking about, they all have varying hardware demands and there's no magical line where a "bottleneck" ends and the GPU works
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
September 20 2013 21:17 GMT
#635
While im at it, i might as well buy some gaming mousepad

What are some of the best mouse pad for Razer Deathadder (2013)?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
September 20 2013 21:27 GMT
#636
Black cloth i think, qck is solid, puretrak talent probably if you want glide but check to see if it tracks good on it first
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
BasetradeTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Canada1307 Posts
September 21 2013 01:31 GMT
#637
Hey guys, could I get an opinion on this in regards to streaming SC2? Thank you in advance!
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Rifkin/saved/2qt5
Commentator
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 21 2013 02:14 GMT
#638
On September 21 2013 10:31 BasetradeTV wrote:
Hey guys, could I get an opinion on this in regards to streaming SC2? Thank you in advance!
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Rifkin/saved/2qt5

Sure.

1. Not convinced on Asus Gryphon, especially in an ATX case, but this is no big deal. I mean, there's Gigabyte Z87X-D3H and Asus Z87-A for $135.
2. 16 GB of RAM, why?
3. $125 for Samsung 840 EVO seems a bit much, but not incredibly so.
4. HAF 922 is pretty outdated and not too convincing for $80, but if you like it, there's no problem. I didn't really even check around, but Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 is $65 on newegg, for example.
5. Cooler Master probably isn't bad, but it's kind of skimping in a build that doesn't seem to be skimping elsewhere. In any rate, it's not good enough for Cooler Master to want to send to reviewers, so it's a question mark. Also, 600W doesn't make too much sense. I mean, you could run two GTX 660 Ti off of that, but I don't think you'd want to...? If it's only for the one, why that much?
6. DVD burners should be costing about that much without any rebate unless you're looking in the wrong places. Like maybe PCPartPicker sucks?
7. Please don't tell me you're getting that CPU and motherboard without intention of overclocking the thing? If not, what heatsink are you using?
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 21 2013 07:25 GMT
#639
Yeah if you're going to overclock you need a heatsink, if you're not then you can get an i5-4670 and a much cheaper motherboard.

8 Gb of RAM is really sufficient for gaming/streaming.

You should really fill out that form in the OP because it gives people something to work with.


If 600W is overkill for that build then I think you're good with Corsair CX500 or something. Check overclock.net they have a list of PSU you should be getting.
maru lover forever
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-22 04:47:41
September 22 2013 04:17 GMT
#640
This is the build recommendation i got: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426532&currentpage=28#559

So i might be getting a nvidia 460 cheap/free. Plan is to use this card for now (prob satisfies me anyways) and buy a nicer card in future? As stated before, my primary title to play is dota and possibly dual screens (maybe some higher gfx games in the future). What would be the max value paid for this..?

1) Let's assume I take out the gpu. With the extra ~200 bucks i have, what ssd would you recommend? (should I even get it now or wait ?)
2) I wish to invest more into the mobo for better future compataibility. Lets put it in the 100-200 range (since i'll prob buy it on the mega sale days)
3) What order of components should i spend more money on if i happen to get more cash
4) I really want a nicer case so let's upgrade that. I especially like the features iv seen where u can plug the sound/mic plug with abuncha usb's all at the front of case. What are other nice features of investing more in a case (function not aesthetics)
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