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I saw no performance change on the bench run i usually run which is unfortunate with so many games getting 5-50% increases
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/337.50/337.50-desktop-win8-win7-winvista-64bit-english-beta.exe I saw no performance change on the bench run i usually run which is unfortunate with so many games getting 5-50% increases | ||
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
go few pages back to see improvement in certain games. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On April 07 2014 23:32 Cyro wrote: Anyone else who can test with new nvidia driver? http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/337.50/337.50-desktop-win8-win7-winvista-64bit-english-beta.exe I saw no performance change on the bench run i usually run which is unfortunate with so many games getting 5-50% increases I might experiment with testing in the different driver versions if you can point me to a replay that's not very long (like, 15 minutes?) and goes up to a good amount of supply on screen. I don't have anything current and don't want to actually play.  About this new driver, I noticed I don't need "Threaded Optimization" set to Off anymore in the game I currently play a lot. I had something that looked like a single frame of stutter every few seconds in the previous drivers with the default settings. It's Guacamelee, a Metroidvania style game with very simple graphics, using 3D only to draw some sort of 2D vector graphics. It seems to run completely smooth with Threaded Optimization on default Auto with these new drivers. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
On April 07 2014 23:40 Kotreb wrote: people here had varying success http://www.overclock.net/t/1479451/various-geforce-337-50-wonder-driver-beta-release/350 go few pages back to see improvement in certain games. I was well up to date on that thread and others, was just waiting for sc2 numbers | ||
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shivver
United States232 Posts
I just got a new computer with no OS. When I boot it up it says "Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected device and press a key" Is this what it should look like or is this something else? I'm about to order windows 7 from amazon so I can get up and running but I've never had a computer that didn't have an OS so this is all new to me | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
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shivver
United States232 Posts
The top one of course Sorry guys I'm completely new to all this so any and ALL suggestions are more than welcomed | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
If you're in college your university may have much cheaper options, e.g. $25 for Professional. | ||
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msca/en_CA/pdp/productID.288438900 | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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zekiY
United States11 Posts
On April 07 2014 19:42 iTzSnypah wrote: Just a Z87 Motherboard such as the Gigabyte Z87X-D3H. You could also get DDR3-2133/2400 also if you wanted, however there is little reason to. e: And at least a decent CPU cooler, Cooler Master Hyper 212+/Evo minimum up to Noctua U14S, Stay away from CLC's. I'll might grab that Gigabyte as my motherboard then. Still unsure about it all. Doing some research and I'm left with the impression that overclocking seems to not do much for gaming (a couple frames increase at most?), which is what I'd primarily be doing on this PC. Any advice on whether is would be worth the additional ~$80 in parts? I am interested in it in as a learning experience, but understanding overclocking and how to do it might not be worth much if there isn't much benefit for me to do it in the first place. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On April 08 2014 12:38 zekiY wrote: I'll might grab that Gigabyte as my motherboard then. Still unsure about it all. Doing some research and I'm left with the impression that overclocking seems to not do much for gaming (a couple frames increase at most?), which is what I'd primarily be doing on this PC. Any advice on whether is would be worth the additional ~$80 in parts? I am interested in it in as a learning experience, but understanding overclocking and how to do it might not be worth much if there isn't much benefit for me to do it in the first place. I can't really decide if it's objectively worth it or not. Those $80 you mention might actually work out fine with regards to what Intel would want you to pay for that new CPU speed you are customizing yourself through overclocking. It might depend on how lucky you get with your CPU. The amount of voltage it will need and how much speed you can get out of it before it gets too hot can't be predicted. The money put into overclocking should definitely be a better investment than the same money put into i7 over i5. I like the idea that your overclocked CPU will compete with or beat future top CPUs for a while. That might cause this to be a good investment because it might extend the life of your new PC. With regards to those coolers mentioned, coolers that fall in between that NH-U14S at the top and Hyper 212 EVO at the bottom would be Thermalright HR-02 Macho and Thermalright True Spirit 140 at amazon.com. Zalman CNPS14X at NCIX or newegg can also theoretically be similar if I'm not mistaken though I'm worried about that fan it has. I typed in a bunch of other cooler's names like NZXT Havik 140, Silverstone HE01, Deepcool/Logysis stuff, but I didn't like the prices. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Doing some research and I'm left with the impression that overclocking seems to not do much for gaming (a couple frames increase at most?), which is what I'd primarily be doing on this PC. Some games are CPU bound, others are GPU bound (with given settings, resolution, hardware etc) If a game is CPU bound you often see 20% perf gains from OC. Some niche games like sc2, 40% gains It's often worth once you hit ~gtx760 tier gpu, for some games such as an sc2 system, you'd stop upgrading gpu before that in order to get oc cpu if you wanted to increase performance, though that's a little niche In general, if you're happy with lower FPS but greater graphical detail, especially if you don't really play rts/mmo games, you'd likely want to invest heavily on GPU with little thought to CPU. If you want to give up detail for FPS, or play some of these problem rts/mmo games - then CPU can become a big, big thing | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On April 08 2014 12:38 zekiY wrote: I'll might grab that Gigabyte as my motherboard then. Still unsure about it all. Doing some research and I'm left with the impression that overclocking seems to not do much for gaming (a couple frames increase at most?), which is what I'd primarily be doing on this PC. Any advice on whether is would be worth the additional ~$80 in parts? I am interested in it in as a learning experience, but understanding overclocking and how to do it might not be worth much if there isn't much benefit for me to do it in the first place. Since you've already got the processor, I'd do it. Or at least get a capable mobo (Z87) and you can wait on the fan/cooler and OC then... I opted not to get an OC build a few months ago. In no way do I regret that decision (and the money saved). However, for me it was closer to $120 cheaper as I got most of my components on Thanksgiving sales. If you already have the K series CPU it seems silly to not at least get a capable MOBO. Also, as Cyro said, SC2 at least responds very well to increased cpu speed. | ||
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zekiY
United States11 Posts
Any immediate need to have to get a cooler right away? I don't plan to overclock ASAP (should I?) so am I good just waiting a while to see if a deal pops up or just until that time comes? Thanks for all the help so far guys! Edit: Just saw the post above mine. Seems like I'll be waiting to OC then until a later time. Thanks again for all the help! I'm sure I'll be back when I actually have to put this thing together. | ||
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Nuf
Denmark145 Posts
What is your budget? His budget is about 1300 dollars, that would be without counting the cost of the screen, as he has put money leftover for that. What is your monitor's native resolution? He wants to play on full HD 1920x1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? He intends to plays all kinds of games, also new single player games, that are demanding for the hardware. So anything from LoL, CS:GO, HoN to games that require a good chunk of horsepower. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? School, listening to music, watching movies. He probably wants to be able to stream some of the more competetive multiplayer games in an "alright" fashion. It doesn't have to be picture perfect. Do you intend to overclock? He doesn't. However, a small overclock might be something that he wishes to do, and therefore I have chosen some hardware that I think will make that possible. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No. Do you need an operating system? No. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No. Just need the PC it self. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. Well, personally I have a good experience with MSI mobos and graphic cards. His requirements are also that he'd like it futureproof 4 years forward, as in that he can still play the games around the 60-70 fps. New games that is. What country will you be buying your parts in? Denmark If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. We have a site called pricerunner.dk + Show Spoiler + http://www.pricerunner.dk/t/9/sammenlign-Computer-hardware-priser It makes it a bit easier because it will compare prices with many different retailers. So here's my current suggestion for a build for my brother, and please bare in mind that it is not sure everything is compatible as I'm not pro. Processor Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell - Box 1545 kr. + Show Spoiler + Motherboard MSI Z87-G45 GAMING - Haswell 955 kr. + Show Spoiler + Graphics Card Palit GeForce GTX 770 JETSTREAM 2564 kr. + Show Spoiler + RAM Kingston HyperX Beast DDR3-2400 DC 8GB 592 kr. + Show Spoiler + Case Nzxt - H440W Silent Ultra - White 919 kr. + Show Spoiler + PSU CORSAIR CX 750W M BRONZE ATX12V 2.3 MODULAR PSU 599 kr. + Show Spoiler + HDD HDD - Seagate Desktop HDD ST1000DM003 425 kr. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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shivver
United States232 Posts
On April 08 2014 11:58 wptlzkwjd wrote: Why not Windows 8.1? It's cheaper than 7 on Amazon. http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msca/en_CA/pdp/productID.288438900 That really REALLY should tell you something about windows 8 LOL | ||
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
If you're investing in OC stuff, you should always OC, at least get most of the headroom very soon after building. A lot of people buy stuff to "maybe" OC and then never do it, it's shockingly common and just wasted money Do you intend to overclock? He doesn't. However, a small overclock might be something that he wishes to do, and therefore I have chosen some hardware that I think will make that possible. Same thing here, if he doesn't plan to throw 1.25-1.4vcore at it, don't bother Nuf, you probably want a good quality 450w PSU instead of 750w (considering 770+4670k at intermediate-level OC's consume like 300 watts) You also might want an SSD. Looking at prices recently, 120gb ssd are quite cheap - but 250gb ssd is similar price to just buying a 120gb and also a 1tb hdd. Grabbing a ~250gb 840 evo is a really appealing option for a new build, unless you want vastly higher storage capacity than that On April 08 2014 22:51 Thalandros wrote: So, just a random question since I want to upgrade my graphics card this year (an awesome 2GB HD radeon 6950!) towards probably a GTX 770 or something alike. How do the 760-770-780 compare in price-quantity? 770 and 760 are the same die (gk104), both have 256 bit memory bus w/ 32 ROP's, but 760 has 2 of the 8 SMX disabled for a total of 6 instead of 8 (so in practice, it loses "up to" a quarter of the performance) - the other difference is memory speed, 770 has faster memory by about 10%, but it usually does not influence benchmark numbers significantly, only minor change. They are sold at similar price/performance, but i prefer 760 because 2gb VRAM, lower memory bandwidth, ROP's amount etc stand out a bit on the 770 - compared to other cards, such as 760, 780, 7950 etc, it's a bit lopsided there, and it's an expensive GPU yet would be awkward to SLI etc because of that (not very good for 1440p) 780 is a new die, gk110, with a 384 bit memory bus and 48 ROP's. It has 12 SMX - it's sold at a pretty low clock speed, relatively (think like 1100mhz boost on factory oc'd instead of many 760's/770's doing 1254) so it benches lower, but it is absolutely a rival choice for SLI 760 in the hands of somebody who would push both card | ||
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