EPTYou'd want 4 for an LGA2011 build
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Cyro
United Kingdom20318 Posts
You'd want 4 for an LGA2011 build | ||
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
secondly, would it fit better into this setup? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/426532-computer-build-upgrade-and-buying-resource-thread?page=259#5165 | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On LGA2011 you want 4 sticks for slightly better performance. On B85 you have dual channel memory and can't overclock the RAM anyway. edit: wait a sec, wasn't everything already answered? | ||
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On April 07 2014 02:02 Kotreb wrote: ah ok. thank you for bearing with my stupidity. It's not being stupid. If you're unfamiliar with the wording for different computer parts or acronyms it just means you're unfamiliar with it. Nothing more. You aren't going to re-invent computer terminology so don't be so hard on yourself. :p @Cyro, thanks for the big post. your earlier remarks are a bit more clear now. :p also, happy birthday! | ||
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ridic
Canada52 Posts
What is your budget? $1000 tax in. What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? CSGO, Dota 2, Diablo 3, Starcraft2, Hearthstone, What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Watching streams/tv shows and other basic stuff Do you intend to overclock? Yes Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No Do you need an operating system? No Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. Preference towards a high end cpu (i5-4670k). Some of the games I play are cpu heavy. Would like an SSD. Can't really go back after my experience on my macbook air. What country will you be buying your parts in? Canada If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. I will probably be buying everything through ncix.ca, since they offer match prices and I've had a good experience with them so far. Goofing around I've come up with this (overbudget): http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nePb Any suggestions are appreciated, thanks guys. My current build is as follows: E8400 HD 5750 ASUS P5Q Pro ATX LGA775 Antec Sonata III Black ATX 4GB ram Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA2 7200RPM 32MB Cache What should I do with it? Should I reuse any pieces / sell it (how much?) / or simply give it away to a friend or family member? (Note that fans make weird noises, not sure what's up, and HDD is really slow nowadays). Thanks again! | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20318 Posts
i can't brain other stuff atm, maybe in the morning it'll run fine as storage, especially if defragmented etc. HDD's don't really lose performance if they're maintained, AFAIK? | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On the technology used for the cheap fans, there's a rubber cover hidden behind the sticker on its back. You can force that rubber stopper out and put a drop of oil into the hole and the noise will often be gone. It won't be like new and the noise will soon come back so you will have to oil it again and again and again. The fans are basically at the end of their life. You can replace case fans very easy, but graphics card fans might be annoying and I don't know how to source replacements for those. The whole Intel stock CPU cooler is something worth $10. The HDD should only get slow in a way that things sometimes hang for a while. That's how it behaves when it is on its last legs and slowly dying. You will be able to research if that's happening for you by looking at what tools like CrystalDiskInfo show for the "SMART" data recorded by the drive. If the slowness does not feel like that, Windows hanging when clicking on things, putting a fresh Windows installation on it might fix it? I think Windows Vista and 7 and 8 take care of defragmentation stuff by themselves. I feel that's a solid build that you linked, but some changes might be good. There was something about that particular board (MSI Z87-G43) having a limit for voltage. That's not something that should be relevant for overclocking with a modest air cooler, but I just find the idea of a limit being needed suspicious. They might have tried to save too much on the parts used for the voltage regulation. I'd look at what the competition sells for that price. Is there some other cooler for similar price? It's not very strong and the $30 don't feel good for it. This one might be good, especially if you take care of using the mail-in-rebate: http://products.ncix.com/detail/zalman-cnps-14x-pure-aluminum-ef-75234.htm You really don't need the 620W of that PSU. I think it will be impossible to use more than 400W even when overclocking CPU and GPU as much as possible. Can you find a better deal on RAM? When hunting for a deal, you should also look in the shop's sections for the faster memory speeds. There are often deals for things like 2133 memory that aren't much more expensive than 1600 speed. Faster memory speed doesn't do very much, but it's still worth it if the price does only increase a little. You can get away with using a slow, large HDD if you want. This is because the SSD will deal with all the things that Windows and programs need, so even a 5400 RPM HDD will be fine and feel surprisingly fast whenever you want something from it like loading a game that's installed on the HDD. | ||
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zekiY
United States11 Posts
If you guys can give a once over on my current (hopefully final) build, I would be grateful. What is your budget? $1000 What is your monitor's native resolution? 1680 x 1050 (plan to upgrade this in the coming months) What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Recent and upcoming releases on High. Don't need to max out everything. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Traditional internet things. Do you intend to overclock? No. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No. Do you need an operating system? No. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. Nope. What country will you be buying your parts in? U.S. If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. Amazon due to having Prime. PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3nj3f Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3nj3f/by_merchant/ Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3nj3f/benchmarks/ CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($100.00 @ NCIX US) Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg) Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ NCIX US) Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($67.99 @ Micro Center) Total: $971.93 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-06 21:34 EDT-0400) I'm iffy on the PSU. Not sure if I have too much power there or not enough. I'm assuming that I have more than I need and might be better of with something that has a lower wattage but is gold. Definitely want something that is modular though. I'm currently split between cases as well. It seems that the 400 has an extra fan which might make me go for that one over the windowed 300, although I'm not sure how important having that extra fan would be. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139008 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On April 07 2014 10:52 zekiY wrote:+ Show Spoiler + First off let me say thank you as this thread has been a huge help as I put together my first build. Most of this stuff usually goes over my head but the explanations here were top notch and very "newbie" friendly. If you guys can give a once over on my current (hopefully final) build, I would be grateful. What is your budget? $1000 What is your monitor's native resolution? 1680 x 1050 (plan to upgrade this in the coming months) What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Recent and upcoming releases on High. Don't need to max out everything. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Traditional internet things. Do you intend to overclock? No. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No. Do you need an operating system? No. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. Nope. What country will you be buying your parts in? U.S. If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. Amazon due to having Prime. PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3nj3f Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3nj3f/by_merchant/ Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3nj3f/benchmarks/ CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($100.00 @ NCIX US) Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg) Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ NCIX US) Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($67.99 @ Micro Center) Total: $971.93 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-06 21:34 EDT-0400) I'm iffy on the PSU. Not sure if I have too much power there or not enough. I'm assuming that I have more than I need and might be better of with something that has a lower wattage but is gold. Definitely want something that is modular though. I'm currently split between cases as well. It seems that the 400 has an extra fan which might make me go for that one over the windowed 300, although I'm not sure how important having that extra fan would be. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139008 Yep you would be better off with a Rosewill Capstone 450-M over the Cosrair CX600. Longer warranty and better quality. Extra fan won't be a big deal when you aren't overclocking. 120GB isn't much space these days if you're a recent release type of gamer so you may want to consider a 240-250GB SSD which is about $120-$140. | ||
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zekiY
United States11 Posts
As for the SSD, It's really only there for the OS. As I understand it, games only get a decrease in load time and not performance, correct? If so, I can deal with the load times on most games and just have a couple on the SSD that I play a lot or have longer loads. | ||
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On April 07 2014 11:42 zekiY wrote: Thanks! Will switch over to the Rosewill then. As for the SSD, It's really only there for the OS. As I understand it, games only get a decrease in load time and not performance, correct? If so, I can deal with the load times on most games and just have a couple on the SSD that I play a lot or have longer loads. Yeah, that'll work fine. | ||
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lost_artz
United States366 Posts
On April 06 2014 16:35 lost_artz wrote: What is your current build? PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 650W ATX12V/EPS12V GPU: ASUS ENGTX550 Ti/DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 550 Ti CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz Hard-drive: Western Digital Black WD5002AALX 500GB MOBO: ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M LGA 1155 Intel Z77 Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 - Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL DVD: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner OS: Win 7 Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147108 What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920 x 1080 IIRC - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236175 (main screen) 1680 x 1050 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009145 (second screen) Not entirely sure I understood this question so I included links to Newegg where I bought them. Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade? Simply put - better FPS and load times. Current PC is somewhat sluggish. I originally built this pc with the express purpose of playing Skyrim which my previous pc couldn't. Probably because it's a laptop... Anyway I'm finding my myself in a similar situation now. I can play most games just fine but if I try maxing out settings I find my FPS dropping below 30 resulting in choppy game-play. I even experience some choppiness when playing Sim games such as SimCity or Banished. I'm currently looking at upgrading to: -GPU: GTX 750 Ti http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487028 -PSU (only if necessary) -Hard-drive: SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE250KW SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147253 or SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147193 I don't mind spending an extra $45 if there's a noticeable difference in load speeds. Regardless I don't need more than 256GB. Only using 105GB currently on my pc. What is your budget? Absolute max $600 including PSU if needed, otherwise $400. What country will you be buying your parts in? USA If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify. Retailer: Newegg. I could use Amazon however I prefer Newegg for electronics purchases. Brands: I prefer larger/name brands. I'm just generally more at ease of mind with them. I have a quick follow-up question for this post. My windows 7 is OEM, by my understanding that product key can't be transferred to a new MOBO, but I'm simply looking at swapping out my hard-drive and GPU. Will I need a new key or am I fine? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Craton
United States17256 Posts
You may end up needing to use the robot for activation instead of the Internet one (i.e. call the phone number). | ||
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zekiY
United States11 Posts
What would I need to add/change in order to have that? For reference, this was my final build with 4670K added. PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3ntmA Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3ntmA/by_merchant/ Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3ntmA/benchmarks/ CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($100.00 @ NCIX US) Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg) Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ NCIX US) Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg) Total: $973.93 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-07 05:59 EDT-0400) | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
e: And at least a decent CPU cooler, Cooler Master Hyper 212+/Evo minimum up to Noctua U14S, Stay away from CLC's. | ||
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
http://www.aoc-europe.com/no_cache/en/monitors.html?useCacheHash=1&showUid=292 or http://www.aoc-europe.com/no_cache/en/monitors.html?useCacheHash=1&showUid=251 or would you go with this one? http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LS23C350HS/ZN# | ||
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