• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:26
CET 12:26
KST 20:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book3Clem wins HomeStory Cup 287HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info4herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April7Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Clem wins HomeStory Cup 28 How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview
Tourneys
$5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) HomeStory Cup 28 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
StarCraft player reflex TE scores Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea 2024 BoxeR's birthday message
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1472 users

Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread - Page 258

Forum Index > Tech Support
Post a Reply
Prev 1 256 257 258 259 260 745 Next
When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17275 Posts
April 02 2014 16:31 GMT
#5141
CPU-Z / GPU-Z would give you more detailed information on Motherboard / CPU / Video Card. Stress test programs like skyR mentioned will test if things are in working order. CrystalDisk and other programs that analyze SMART data will give you an indication of HDD health.

I don't really know how else you can test used components. You can't really know if someone ran their CPU at super high voltage for example (which could impact the remaining lifespan).
twitch.tv/cratonz
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
April 03 2014 02:31 GMT
#5142
On April 03 2014 00:47 skyR wrote:
You need to run stress tests on it like memtest, prime95, heaven, or whichever software you prefer.

But let's be real here, if you don't know this stuff than you are basically 100% relying on the buyer not fucking you over.


I probably wouldn't recommend using prime 95 or IBT to anyone who isn't very experienced as those can do some real damage to the hardware if run improperly. Heaven Unigine and Valley are pretty nice tests. You could also try benchmarks like 3D Mark 11 or PCMark.
Feel free to add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MagnusAskeland/
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
April 03 2014 04:35 GMT
#5143
I see heaven and valley as benchmarks more than tests; never considered them giving a good GPU a real stress test.
maru lover forever
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
April 03 2014 09:56 GMT
#5144
Kinda like just running a game, if you are unstable they will probably let you know - there's not much else to run for gpu's
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
April 03 2014 13:09 GMT
#5145
Hello, so the planets have aligned and i'm buying a new pc. Since i haven't checked/followed parts scene for a long time i'm totally outdated. Any help you could give me would be greately appreciated.

my budget is around 1000$. The current monitor i'm using is old samsung one ( i use 1024x768 res), but i would like to buy a new one if possible (if i can great, if not i'd rather leave old monitor and get better parts for that money). Intened to play mostly games that are more cpu intensive (like cs and sc), but gaming isn't primarily my goal here. I don't intend to overclock since i always had bad luck with it (kinda). I also plan to buy mechanical keyboard along with it (it's in the budget) so any suggestion here is also very welcome (brown switches is what i'm looking for and possibly background light + shipping to croatia). I plan to buy everything in croatia, but if smtgh is cheaper somewhere and they deliver to croatia i'll buy it there.

Thank you in advance.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
April 03 2014 13:41 GMT
#5146
What's your budget in.. croatia money? They use euros too, don't they? (but maybe some other currency as well, my friend lived there for most of his life but i forgot)

USD and european markets are far too different to convert, when i got this screen for example it was ~$260 USD, but about $460 USD if i converted from my currency
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 14:13:13
April 03 2014 14:11 GMT
#5147
On April 03 2014 22:41 Cyro wrote:
What's your budget in.. croatia money? They use euros too, don't they? (but maybe some other currency as well, my friend lived there for most of his life but i forgot)

USD and european markets are far too different to convert, when i got this screen for example it was ~$260 USD, but about $460 USD if i converted from my currency

Wikipedia says it's "kuna" and "lipa" and the code for converting through Google is "HRK" -- "1000 USD to HRK = 5558.60 Croatian Kuna".
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
April 03 2014 14:24 GMT
#5148
On April 03 2014 23:11 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 22:41 Cyro wrote:
What's your budget in.. croatia money? They use euros too, don't they? (but maybe some other currency as well, my friend lived there for most of his life but i forgot)

USD and european markets are far too different to convert, when i got this screen for example it was ~$260 USD, but about $460 USD if i converted from my currency

Wikipedia says it's "kuna" and "lipa" and the code for converting through Google is "HRK" -- "1000 USD to HRK = 5558.60 Croatian Kuna".


so now you just have to find croatian retailers? :p
maru lover forever
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
April 03 2014 15:47 GMT
#5149
Yeah, our currency is kuna, Ropid googled it perfectly. basically i have around 6000 kn which roughly converts into 1000$ (give or take, depending on the fluctuation of exchange rate). I'm looking for parts in that value because probably 99% suggested can be bought here and if something can't be then i'm willing to order from ebay/amazon/whatever :D
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
April 03 2014 15:54 GMT
#5150
On April 04 2014 00:47 Kotreb wrote:
Yeah, our currency is kuna, Ropid googled it perfectly. basically i have around 6000 kn which roughly converts into 1000$ (give or take, depending on the fluctuation of exchange rate). I'm looking for parts in that value because probably 99% suggested can be bought here and if something can't be then i'm willing to order from ebay/amazon/whatever :D


The problem that Cyro mentioned is this:

You translate the 6000 kn into 1000 USD. Where I'm from, if I'm looking at 1000 USD parts, I would actually pay about 1000 EUR for those parts. If those 1000 EUR are translated back to HRK, it probably ends up at 8000 kn?
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
April 03 2014 16:07 GMT
#5151
Your calculations are correct. Basically i'm looking for parts in value of 6000 kn. Difference between dollars and euro is that 1$=5.5 kn, while 1€=7.5 kn. I put it into dollars since i noticed on the first page that all values are expressed in dollars, so i just went with it. Like i said, i have budget of 6000 kn, so any suggestion is fine.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
April 03 2014 18:09 GMT
#5152
6000 kn is 785 euros.

I have no idea where to buy mechanical keyboards from in Europe, but I'm assuming the cost there for something backlit is say 150 euros or so (1150 kn). Some cheaper models may or may not be available, I'm thinking. Windows OEM license is say 75 euros. Add say 125 euros for a monitor on the low end. So that is almost half the budget.

Getting PC components shipped from Germany is almost always cheapest. I think mindfactory ships for 30 euros. Here is a reasonable build for the rest of the money.

Core i3-4130 - 92 €
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Intel-Core-i3-4130-2x-3-40GHz-So-1150-BOX_931541.html

AsRock H81M-HDS (generic socket 1150 board) - 38 €
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/ASRock-H81M-HDS-Intel-H81-So-1150-Dual-Channel-DDR3-mATX-Retail_930820.html

Crucial 2 x 4GB 1600 MHz DDR3 - 57 €
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-Crucial-Ballistix-Sport-DDR3-1600-DIMM-CL9-Dual-Kit_794504.html

Sapphire R7 260X 2GB - 105 €
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/2048MB-Sapphire-Radeon-R7-260X-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Lite-Retail-_945375.html

Seagate 1TB 7200 rpm - 45 €
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/1000GB-Seagate-Desktop-HDD-ST1000DM003-64MB-3-5Zoll--8-9cm--SATA-6Gb-s_775365.html

Samsung DVD burner - 12 €
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Samsung-SH-224DB-BEBE-DVD-RW-SATA-1-5Gb-s-intern-schwarz-Bulk_853099.html

Fractal Design Core 1000 - 28 €
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Fractal-Core-1000-Midi-Tower-ohne-Netzteil-schwarz_739898.html

XFX Core 450W (for the relative quality and price; wattage is way more than necessary) - 40 €
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/450-Watt-XFX-Core-Edition-V2-Non-Modular-80--Bronze_759250.html

LG 22EA63V - 133 €
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/21-5Zoll--54-61cm--LG-Electronics-Flatron-22EA63V-schwarz-1920x1080-1xHDM_846979.html

It can be adjusted up or down readily, say if Windows not needed, you find a keyboard cheaper, or everything is as expensive as I thought.
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
April 03 2014 18:57 GMT
#5153
Thank you :D
There are few things i don't need (windows, dvd burner and i think i'll give up on monitor) so i might put it into another parts. And seeing these prices makes me wanna cry (add ~30€ for almost all items when i'm buying them here). Thank you once again, it was very helpful
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
trancey
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
April 03 2014 21:40 GMT
#5154
Is the Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB still the best budget video card to buy? Anyone have any other good options?

Also -- for Fraps-ing or streaming, can an AMD FX-4100 (1st gen) hold up? I should probably upgrade this too huh.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
April 03 2014 21:47 GMT
#5155
On April 04 2014 06:40 trancey wrote:
Is the Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB still the best budget video card to buy? Anyone have any other good options?

Also -- for Fraps-ing or streaming, can an AMD FX-4100 (1st gen) hold up? I should probably upgrade this too huh.


What kind of streaming are you looking to do? You might wanna grab a 750/750ti
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
trancey
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
April 03 2014 21:50 GMT
#5156
On April 04 2014 06:47 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 06:40 trancey wrote:
Is the Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB still the best budget video card to buy? Anyone have any other good options?

Also -- for Fraps-ing or streaming, can an AMD FX-4100 (1st gen) hold up? I should probably upgrade this too huh.


What kind of streaming are you looking to do? You might wanna grab a 750/750ti


I'm just attempting to stream Heroes on probably low/medium graphics. My main goal is to make YouTube content.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
April 03 2014 21:56 GMT
#5157
You can use hardware encoder on 600/700 series gpu's for that, it's pretty good. Maybe the most cost effective option if you don't have a useful GPU right now and have an fx4100
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 03:55:35
April 04 2014 03:54 GMT
#5158
On April 03 2014 13:35 Incognoto wrote:
I see heaven and valley as benchmarks more than tests; never considered them giving a good GPU a real stress test.


The only GPU stress test I can think of is MSi's Kombuster....it even has smoke graphics on the program. I sort of take that as a warning lol.
Feel free to add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MagnusAskeland/
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
April 04 2014 11:31 GMT
#5159
A lot of the gpu stress tests are more tests of power delivery systems than stability, to the point where most of it isn't much use a lot of the time - gaming on a gpu boost card for example you can sit at say 1300mhz and not pass 80% of your power limit ever, but meanwhile if you run furmark it can use enough power to throttle you to 1000mhz - and that does not tell you if you are stable @1300mhz or not, because it refuses to run that fast in the first place
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
April 04 2014 17:57 GMT
#5160
What about Furmark?

I mention it because it caused faster temperature raise on my GPU than Heaven.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Prev 1 256 257 258 259 260 745 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 34m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 673
SortOf 175
BRAT_OK 79
Rex 64
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 22412
Horang2 12936
GuemChi 1629
Flash 775
Jaedong 650
Hyuk 628
Stork 300
BeSt 230
Mini 214
Rush 201
[ Show more ]
Hyun 165
Last 162
ggaemo 66
EffOrt 63
Mong 62
Bonyth 53
Shinee 49
Shuttle 43
Mind 42
Shine 39
Backho 35
sSak 32
NaDa 31
Free 27
Aegong 26
zelot 18
GoRush 18
910 18
Movie 17
Terrorterran 16
SilentControl 10
Dota 2
XcaliburYe344
NeuroSwarm84
febbydoto47
League of Legends
JimRising 419
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King148
Other Games
singsing1925
B2W.Neo1797
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1099
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 17
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Response 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• StrangeGG 24
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2128
League of Legends
• Jankos2106
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
34m
herO vs Maru
RotterdaM673
Rex64
CranKy Ducklings15
IntoTheiNu 7
SC Evo League
1h 34m
Replay Cast
12h 34m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 3h
OSC
1d 12h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
2 days
PiGosaur Monday
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
Online Event
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS4
HSC XXVIII
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.