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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
February 28 2014 02:54 GMT
#4701
Put everything together. I put in my current ssd that was working but when I boot up mobo 2-digit goes to 99, then the "windows is starting" shows for maybe a second then it flashes a blue screen then restarts to "windows could not boot up" screen.

How should I start to fix the problem?
Stuck.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-28 03:19:11
February 28 2014 03:01 GMT
#4702
On February 28 2014 11:15 Cronosc2 wrote:
so i can basically go for this
+ Show Spoiler +

I would wanna keep the cooler for cooling and just lesser noise, because when streaming the cpu is heavely loaded..
8GB Kingston HyperX Beast DDR3-1600 DIMM CL9 Dual Kit; 70€ instead of 133€ and,
ASRock Fatal1ty H87 Performance Intel H87 So.1150 Dual Channel DDR3 ATX; 80€ instead of 120€
and with that difference i can afford this graphics card basically
2048MB Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 WindForce 3X Aktiv PCIe 3.0 x16 275€ instead of 168€ weaker card.

am i correct?

Perhaps rather buy this cooler:

"Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev. 2"
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Arctic-Cooling-Freezer-7-Pro-Rev--2-Tower-Kuehler_624936.html

There might be a different one that's even cheaper and still quiet. The one you chose is definitely overkill.

This one was for example originally sold without fan for passive use:

"Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev. A"
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Thermalright-HR-02-Macho-Rev-A--BW--Tower-Kuehler_809693.html

It's strong enough to keep your CPU cool just by the air being moved by the case fans (the cooler you want to buy is by the way probably not better despite its higher price).

EDIT:

+ Show Spoiler +
Here's a previous version of that Matterhorn being tested: http://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/kuehlung/22523-test-alpenfoehn-matterhorn-pure.html?start=4

The following page in that review has a graph showing what happens in "semi-passive" use without fan on the cooler. It gets crushed by the HR-02, more than 20 C difference. The newer version you are looking at might have fixed some problems it had, but it still can't possibly be worth 50 € if the HR-02 is only 36 € at mindfactory.de. Especially if you want quiet, HR-02 would seriously work without its fan so can't be beat.

The silence argument for the expensive cooler is probably a bit beside the point because you'll always hear the graphics card over the CPU cooler even if you buy that small and cheap Arctic cooler.

"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
February 28 2014 03:05 GMT
#4703
On February 28 2014 11:54 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Put everything together. I put in my current ssd that was working but when I boot up mobo 2-digit goes to 99, then the "windows is starting" shows for maybe a second then it flashes a blue screen then restarts to "windows could not boot up" screen.

How should I start to fix the problem?

What board did you use in your old PC?

A possibility might be, you go into the BIOS and search for the protocol used for the SATA ports. Switch it over from default "AHCI" to "IDE" (or "Legacy"). See if the Windows on the old SSD boots afterwards. If yes, google for "windows 7 ahci ide registry" and see how to get it to boot without reinstallation, do the registry change mentioned, then restart and switch the BIOS back to "AHCI".
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-28 03:22:22
February 28 2014 03:21 GMT
#4704
Asus p67 pro iirc

Will try what you said
Stuck.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
February 28 2014 03:29 GMT
#4705
You don't have to, that was something for very old boards and won't be relevant I bet.

What's with the Safe Mode of Windows? Does that work?
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
February 28 2014 03:32 GMT
#4706
How do I boot in safe mode, it only gives option to either start windows normally or repair tool.
Stuck.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
February 28 2014 03:35 GMT
#4707
Windows 7, you hammer the F8 key around the point where the BIOS finishes up its thing and starts Windows.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
February 28 2014 03:39 GMT
#4708
Same thing happens with safe mode.
Stuck.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-28 03:47:29
February 28 2014 03:46 GMT
#4709
Did you check that AHCI vs. IDE stuff in the SATA settings of the BIOS? I can't manage to find out what the default setting was on your old ASUS P67 board. If your old Windows was installed in IDE mode, you will get exactly that error you describe, including Safe Mode not working. You can't boot that Windows if AHCI mode is set in the BIOS, have to switch it over to IDE.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
February 28 2014 03:54 GMT
#4710
I'm wondering, is this a fresh installation of Windows or did you simply plug the old SSD into the new equipment?
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-28 04:04:12
February 28 2014 04:03 GMT
#4711
That solved it. When I was trying to look this problem online I read something about not using asmedia sata and using intel sata instead. I switched from AHCI to IDE in the ASmedia part in UEFI. Should I change where my sata cables are connected on the mobo?

Old ssd. I will freshly install on new ssd.
Stuck.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
February 28 2014 04:12 GMT
#4712
Hey, you can change that old Windows on your old SSD to use AHCI if you want. It's a single number switched somewhere in the Windows Registry. After it's enabled, it does good things to the performance of the SSD.

I think this is the right fix for Windows 7: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976

You can either click that button somewhere in the middle of the page in IE, or read what to manually change in the registry.

You then take a trip through the BIOS while restarting to switch that over to AHCI.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
February 28 2014 04:14 GMT
#4713
Does it matter if im only using the ssd to make sure the comp is running and im just gonna use a new ssd with a clean install?
Stuck.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
February 28 2014 04:19 GMT
#4714
No. Just keep in mind to switch to AHCI before you install your new Windows on the new SSD.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-28 04:23:37
February 28 2014 04:23 GMT
#4715
Anything significant about using ASmedia sata ports over other ones?

Thanks
Stuck.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-28 04:35:29
February 28 2014 04:33 GMT
#4716
As far as I know, the SATA3 ASMedia (and Marvell) ports are so bad, the SATA2 Intel and AMD ports are usually better. They do not at all get the full SATA3 speed that the Intel and AMD SATA3 ports get. To avoid Windows problems with the extra drivers, never use them unless you have to because you ran out of Intel or AMD ports.

The benchmarks I've seen were of older versions of the controllers. About the current version of the controllers, I've only seen some dude mention that they are still not great.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 28 2014 04:44 GMT
#4717
They also add to boot time.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
February 28 2014 06:02 GMT
#4718
On February 28 2014 12:01 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 11:15 Cronosc2 wrote:
so i can basically go for this
+ Show Spoiler +

I would wanna keep the cooler for cooling and just lesser noise, because when streaming the cpu is heavely loaded..
8GB Kingston HyperX Beast DDR3-1600 DIMM CL9 Dual Kit; 70€ instead of 133€ and,
ASRock Fatal1ty H87 Performance Intel H87 So.1150 Dual Channel DDR3 ATX; 80€ instead of 120€
and with that difference i can afford this graphics card basically
2048MB Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 WindForce 3X Aktiv PCIe 3.0 x16 275€ instead of 168€ weaker card.

am i correct?

Perhaps rather buy this cooler:

"Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev. 2"
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Arctic-Cooling-Freezer-7-Pro-Rev--2-Tower-Kuehler_624936.html

There might be a different one that's even cheaper and still quiet. The one you chose is definitely overkill.


Just a word of caution, I had that cooler (fan) die on me after about a month of use! Fortunately I wasn't doing anything too intensive and had a temperature warning or it could have ended really bad. (I am currently using the heatsink with another fan combo in my htpc so losing my receipt wasn't a full waste.)
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
February 28 2014 06:21 GMT
#4719
i feel like a 4770 just for streaming sc2 is overkill. x264 is quite efficient and an i5 could stream sC2 np imo
maru lover forever
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1961 Posts
February 28 2014 10:20 GMT
#4720
Now, i see ASRock boards recommended here all the time, so just take this with 3 grains of salt cause you guys know what you are talking about.

Have a friend who worked at a retailer in the refund department and he told me that ASRock is using all the crap that ASUS does not want to build anymore and puts it on their boards, resulting in the boards getting returned more then every other mobo-manufacturers product. They are cheap though.
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