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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
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Style15
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This is my system i would like to buy it and this configuration i can affort it.Please someone tell me if its good. Hard Disk Drive WESTERN DIGITAL Caviar Blue WD10EZEX, 1000GB, 64MB, SATA 3 Procesor INTEL Core i5-4440 BX80646I54440, Haswell, 3. 1GHz, 6MB, Socket 1150, Box Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Superclocked 01G-P4-2753-KR, 1GB GDDR5, 128bit DVD RW ASUS DRW-24BF1 ST/BLK/B/AS, SATA, black, bulk Case ZALMAN T3 ZM-T3, 1 x USB 2.0, 1 x USB 3.0, mATX Source FLOSTON FL500EXTRA, 500W, 12cm FAN, Active PFC MotherBoard ASROCK H81M-VG4, socket 1150, H81, 2xDDR3, 2xSATA3, 2xSATA2, mAtx Memory desktop CRUCIAL CT51264BA160BJ, 4GB DDR3, 1600MHz, CL11 | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
As some of you may know, I like to play around with crypto mining. One coin I started mining was Helix coin, which uses a new miner unlike the one I've used before. However, using this miner at high intensity causes even the mouse cursor to lag quite hard. So I decided to install the HD 4600 graphic drivers, for fun, and see if I couldn't mine with the GPU at full intensity while using integrated graphics for web-browsing and stuff. Interestingly, mining indeed works as I get a hashrate, I hear the fans spinning and I can feel the card getting warm. So in theory, the card is indeed working. However, I also get this: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qQlqBbX.png) I'm not sure why but I just can't monitor anything or set clock rates and whatnot. The fan doesn't seem to be turning too fast, nor is the card itself hot, so I'm not too concerned. But I'm curious as to how I could once again get readings. | ||
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Style15
13 Posts
This is my system i would like to buy it and this configuration i can affort it.Please someone tell me if its good. Hard Disk Drive WESTERN DIGITAL Caviar Blue WD10EZEX, 1000GB, 64MB, SATA 3 Procesor INTEL Core i5-4440 BX80646I54440, Haswell, 3. 1GHz, 6MB, Socket 1150, Box Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Superclocked 01G-P4-2753-KR, 1GB GDDR5, 128bit DVD RW ASUS DRW-24BF1 ST/BLK/B/AS, SATA, black, bulk Case ZALMAN T3 ZM-T3, 1 x USB 2.0, 1 x USB 3.0, mATX Source FLOSTON FL500EXTRA, 500W, 12cm FAN, Active PFC MotherBoard ASROCK H81M-VG4, socket 1150, H81, 2xDDR3, 2xSATA3, 2xSATA2, mAtx Memory desktop CRUCIAL CT51264BA160BJ, 4GB DDR3, 1600MHz, CL11 Someone please,is this system good ? its all good ? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On March 01 2014 18:06 Incognoto wrote: OK, here's something interesting. As some of you may know, I like to play around with crypto mining. One coin I started mining was Helix coin, which uses a new miner unlike the one I've used before. However, using this miner at high intensity causes even the mouse cursor to lag quite hard. So I decided to install the HD 4600 graphic drivers, for fun, and see if I couldn't mine with the GPU at full intensity while using integrated graphics for web-browsing and stuff. Interestingly, mining indeed works as I get a hashrate, I hear the fans spinning and I can feel the card getting warm. So in theory, the card is indeed working. However, I also get this: I'm not sure why but I just can't monitor anything or set clock rates and whatnot. The fan doesn't seem to be turning too fast, nor is the card itself hot, so I'm not too concerned. But I'm curious as to how I could once again get readings. Some people have those issues with AMD cards. Belial had the same thing but he thought he crushed his temperature sensor on 7950 On March 01 2014 18:09 Style15 wrote: Hi all,could someone help me,i will buy a destop pc,and i need to know if this sistem is good for sc2 to run smoothy on all medium settings during all game,and in big battles witout lag ? and also if will run this new games 2014? This is my system i would like to buy it and this configuration i can affort it.Please someone tell me if its good. Hard Disk Drive WESTERN DIGITAL Caviar Blue WD10EZEX, 1000GB, 64MB, SATA 3 Procesor INTEL Core i5-4440 BX80646I54440, Haswell, 3. 1GHz, 6MB, Socket 1150, Box Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Superclocked 01G-P4-2753-KR, 1GB GDDR5, 128bit DVD RW ASUS DRW-24BF1 ST/BLK/B/AS, SATA, black, bulk Case ZALMAN T3 ZM-T3, 1 x USB 2.0, 1 x USB 3.0, mATX Source FLOSTON FL500EXTRA, 500W, 12cm FAN, Active PFC MotherBoard ASROCK H81M-VG4, socket 1150, H81, 2xDDR3, 2xSATA3, 2xSATA2, mAtx Memory desktop CRUCIAL CT51264BA160BJ, 4GB DDR3, 1600MHz, CL11 Someone please,is this system good ? its all good ? Doesn't look terrible*, are you building this yourself or buying it from somewhere? What specs do you have right now? *Aside from the PSU. Don't buy that. | ||
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Style15
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Where are you buying from? You probably also want 2x2gb or 2x4gb of RAM (two sticks, not one, for dual channel) and at least ~1600c9 (higher mhz is better, lower cas latency is better, so 1600c9 is better than 1600c11) | ||
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Style15
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On March 02 2014 00:41 Cyro wrote: That one's better (at the very least 80+ bronze rated and can supply decent amount of power on 12v rail) Where are you buying from? You probably also want 2x2gb or 2x4gb of RAM (two sticks, not one, for dual channel) and at least ~1600c9 (higher mhz is better, lower cas latency is better, so 1600c9 is better than 1600c11) i just wanna play 1vs1 on medium setting , without lag in big battles , and i want to run the new games on med-high set , i have another psu : Source ZALMAN ZM500-GLX, 500W, 12cm fan, PCF activ . This is better than the other ? i dont afford the 2x2 or 2x4 gb ram , i just wanna your opinion about this sistem , its good for sc2 and the new games or its not good . I'm from Romania | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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Vilanoil
Germany47 Posts
What is your current build? amd phenom II x4 945 his radeon iceq turbo 5700 SSD + HDD Some random 550 watt power supply What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 and sometimes 2nd with 1440x900 Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade? Current Power supply is already over 6 years old and it gets too noisy. It's really important for me that it will be very quite and can handle future upgrades of the other parts too. What is your budget? Around 100€ max. What country will you be buying your parts in? Germany/EU | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
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Vilanoil
Germany47 Posts
On March 02 2014 22:20 Cyro wrote: ^Hm what kind of system would you want to upgrade to? I didn't think about it yet since i probably won't do it this year anyway. Probably some Intel chip and geforce graphiccard. I usually don't go for that high end stuff just good enough to play newer games. ah and i was thinking about overclocking but didn't look into it yet either. Don't know if this matters. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
One of the higher-quality lower-noise designs is Cooler Master V550S (V650S also available): http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/550-Watt-CoolerMaster-VS-Series-Modular-80--Gold_935043.html However, with higher ambient temperatures and higher power outputs closer to capacity, it's somewhat loud. Same goes for the Seasonic G and S12G, which are also good, but they ramp up under load a little bit earlier I think. If you're planning on using over 70% or so of capacity (i.e. overclock the Phenom II X4 and get R9 270X / R9 280 / GTX 760 and load everything), I would pick something else. The Seasonics and Cooler Master use a mediocre 2BB 120 mm fan that runs at under 650 rpm for lower loads. If the rest of the system is hardcore quiet optimized (good aftermarket cooling on both CPU and GPU, minimal drive noise, etc.) and and you get close enough, that bearing noise could be noticeable. Cooler Master CS and RM are actually quieter at high loads and RM has fanless mode at lower loads, but everything else is not as good and there are more questions about long-term longevity. If you are willing to sacrifice some quality from the Seasonic and Cooler Master for guaranteed lower noise (but not bad or mediocre quality at all), I think, especially in Germany, I would go with be quiet! Straight Power E9 CM: http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/580-Watt-be-quiet--Straight-Power-E9-CM-Modular-80--Gold_768615.html | ||
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Cronosc2
Germany108 Posts
~1000€ What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Streaming sc2 on ~high settings atleast but as high as possible (8mb up), titanfall. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? -- pure for the games! Do you intend to overclock? no Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? no Do you need an operating system? no Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? no If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. What country will you be buying your parts in? germany If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. mindfactory, caseking | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
*At the very least, i expected a source engine game to be fine in this area. The beta was force v-synced (which, among being terrible, makes it impossible to benchmark very well as frames can't be rendered faster than a certain point.. even with a 120hz screen) | ||
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Vilanoil
Germany47 Posts
On March 03 2014 00:58 Myrmidon wrote: Gets too noisy as in under load? One of the higher-quality lower-noise designs is Cooler Master V550S (V650S also available): http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/550-Watt-CoolerMaster-VS-Series-Modular-80--Gold_935043.html However, with higher ambient temperatures and higher power outputs closer to capacity, it's somewhat loud. Same goes for the Seasonic G and S12G, which are also good, but they ramp up under load a little bit earlier I think. If you're planning on using over 70% or so of capacity (i.e. overclock the Phenom II X4 and get R9 270X / R9 280 / GTX 760 and load everything), I would pick something else. The Seasonics and Cooler Master use a mediocre 2BB 120 mm fan that runs at under 650 rpm for lower loads. If the rest of the system is hardcore quiet optimized (good aftermarket cooling on both CPU and GPU, minimal drive noise, etc.) and and you get close enough, that bearing noise could be noticeable. Cooler Master CS and RM are actually quieter at high loads and RM has fanless mode at lower loads, but everything else is not as good and there are more questions about long-term longevity. If you are willing to sacrifice some quality from the Seasonic and Cooler Master for guaranteed lower noise (but not bad or mediocre quality at all), I think, especially in Germany, I would go with be quiet! Straight Power E9 CM: http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/580-Watt-be-quiet--Straight-Power-E9-CM-Modular-80--Gold_768615.html No it's also loud when in idle. I think that the fan is broken. I just ordered the Cooler Master, should be good :D thanks for the infos  | ||
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1ManArmy
Netherlands895 Posts
I'll be using various dutch stores (SIComputers,Afuture,Azerty Informatique) to buy from, using a site that calculates the orders to minimize the shipping costs. I'm looking to land on 600-650 euro all inclusive. Key thing that i want the computer to be is snappy, and somewhat futureproof. Since i know my mother hardly saves big documents i chose for an SSD instead of a HDD. This is the build i've come up with: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eBnSCBI.png) Including shippingcosts it's € 643,69 i3 4330: solid cpu + has the HD4600 integrated card, which is pretty nice since i won't put a dedicated card in the PC h81M-A : cheap mobo that has the functionality i need , it seems Merc Alpha: already built a pc with this case, i quite like it for it's price and looks. CX430 bronze: built 2 pc's with this one, works nicely 840 Evo: good pricepoint, solid performance, enough capacity Oh and i know i probably don't need the extra fan, but i'd like to put one in. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
No it's also loud when in idle. I think that the fan is broken. If it's anything even remotely close to mine right now.. then you wouldn't need a quiet spec psu with optimized fan curves etc to get some ear relief  1ManArmy maybe worth a Kaveri build if you don't plan on using dedicated graphics? It looks pretty good but 620 euro makes me cringe a little even if 250 of that is monitor+ssd | ||
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1ManArmy
Netherlands895 Posts
On March 04 2014 02:51 Cyro wrote: If it's anything even remotely close to mine right now.. then you wouldn't need a quiet spec psu with optimized fan curves etc to get some ear relief 1ManArmy maybe worth a Kaveri build if you don't plan on using dedicated graphics? It looks pretty good but 620 euro makes me cringe a little even if 250 of that is monitor+ssd I'm not too familiar with AMD APU's. Fx 6300 seems to be pretty popular, but it's only 10 euro cheaper. What would be a good APU? Also they seem to have noticeable higher TDP then the intel ones. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=1967&subid=1944 | ||
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