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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
polanskygreg1985
Profile Joined December 2013
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 09:42:25
December 15 2013 09:40 GMT
#3061
@incognoto, thanks. The "Z77" part was the most confusing part (z77, h67, p67,...). I was tempted by the Gigabytes, but I found a used ASRock Z77 Extreme4 for 85$. The seller says it was only used for 5 months and never overclocked so the value is there. Hopefully that will work for me.

The heatsink is already upgraded to Thermalright True Spirit 120M. It should be fine.

Now I can get another SSD for this thing for some RAID. Excited!

Thanks again!

-Greg
Shake and Bake
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
December 15 2013 09:59 GMT
#3062
^If you OC with it, be aware that you can get vcore typically ~0.02 to 0.05 more than you set in bios and is displayed in software, isn't a problem at low-med oc if you take note of it but kinda annoying
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
December 15 2013 10:05 GMT
#3063
On December 15 2013 18:16 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 18:00 IMKR wrote:
On December 15 2013 17:39 Incognoto wrote:
What case is that IMKR?



corsair 200r


Ah, knew I didn't recognize it.

Your 760 should easily fit in there.


im not talking about the clearance tho.

im saying that the PCI slot where the gpu goes into seems a bit to high up closer to the CPU and furthur away from the rear of the case.
but ill just have to wait and see.
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
December 15 2013 12:29 GMT
#3064
My case (corsair 200r) has a front panel usb 3.0
my mobo doesnt have a 3.0 inside, only 2.0
so i need a 3.0 to 2.0 adapter.
what is that item called?
when i look for it, it only brings up items for the rear and front ports isntead of the internal ports. (like the 4 pins stuff)
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 15 2013 13:33 GMT
#3065
I think an adaptor will probably come with the case itself.

Also don't over think, there's no reason whatsoever that you couldn't put a 760 on an H81 motherboard in a 200R. You'll be FINE. :p

@Greg; hf
maru lover forever
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
December 15 2013 13:57 GMT
#3066
On December 15 2013 22:33 Incognoto wrote:
I think an adaptor will probably come with the case itself.

Also don't over think, there's no reason whatsoever that you couldn't put a 760 on an H81 motherboard in a 200R. You'll be FINE. :p

@Greg; hf


the case didnt come with one.
Harajuku
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
150 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 16:17:15
December 15 2013 16:05 GMT
#3067
Hey guys, I'm planning to build my first (budget) PC on a (very) tight budget that I'd like to be as cost-efficient as possible. The OP has already been an immense help to me as my hardware knowledge is superficial at best. A good CPU is important because I often play CPU heavy games like SC2. Here is what I have in mind so far:

Processor: Intel Core i5 4570
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS
Memory: G.Skill 8 GB
Video Card: Radeon HD 6770 (from my old PC, will replace it with something better once I can afford it)
Case: Fractal Core 1000
Power Supply: 550W XFX Pro Core Edition
Storage: Samsung 120GB SSD (+ a 64GB one from my old PC)

Cost: about €450 in total, can't go much higher than that

Does this look good/okay? Anything obvious I'm missing? Thanks a lot in advance.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 16:29:21
December 15 2013 16:23 GMT
#3068
On December 16 2013 01:05 Harajuku wrote:
Hey guys, I'm planning to build my first (budget) PC on a (very) tight budget that I'd like to be as cost-efficient as possible. The OP has already been an immense help to me as my hardware knowledge is superficial at best. A good CPU is important because I often play CPU heavy games like SC2. Here is what I have in mind so far:

Processor: Intel Core i5 4570
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS
Memory: G.Skill 8 GB
Video Card: Radeon HD 6770 (from my old PC, will replace it with something better once I can afford it)
Case: Fractal Core 1000
Power Supply: 550W XFX Pro Core Edition
Storage: Samsung 120GB SSD (+ a 64GB one from my old PC)

Cost: about €450 in total, can't go much higher than that

Does this look good/okay? Anything obvious I'm missing? Thanks a lot in advance.


that looks perfectly fine. not sure how much you're going to pay for the PSU though. tell us since there might be slightly cheaper options (since you're on a tight budget). For example the CX430 is currently at $20 after mail in rebate at micro center:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/399979/Builder_Series_CX430_430_Watt_ATX_12V_Power_Supply


or antenc neo eco at $43 after mail in rebate: http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&sku=86280&vpn=NEO ECO 520C&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1413

@IMKR: oops my bad then
maru lover forever
Harajuku
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
150 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 16:29:01
December 15 2013 16:27 GMT
#3069
On December 16 2013 01:23 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 01:05 Harajuku wrote:
Hey guys, I'm planning to build my first (budget) PC on a (very) tight budget that I'd like to be as cost-efficient as possible. The OP has already been an immense help to me as my hardware knowledge is superficial at best. A good CPU is important because I often play CPU heavy games like SC2. Here is what I have in mind so far:

Processor: Intel Core i5 4570
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS
Memory: G.Skill 8 GB
Video Card: Radeon HD 6770 (from my old PC, will replace it with something better once I can afford it)
Case: Fractal Core 1000
Power Supply: 550W XFX Pro Core Edition
Storage: Samsung 120GB SSD (+ a 64GB one from my old PC)

Cost: about €450 in total, can't go much higher than that

Does this look good/okay? Anything obvious I'm missing? Thanks a lot in advance.


that looks perfectly fine. not sure how much you're going to pay for the PSU though. tell us since there might be slightly cheaper options (since you're on a tight budget). For example the CX430 is currently at $20 after mail in rebate at micro center:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/399979/Builder_Series_CX430_430_Watt_ATX_12V_Power_Supply


@IMKR: oops my bad then


It's €50, so I thought it's a good deal. It's a non-modular one though.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 15 2013 16:30 GMT
#3070
oh you're in europe disregard everything i said. €50 for that PSU should be perfectly all right, nothing more to say about your build from me. ^^
maru lover forever
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
December 15 2013 17:10 GMT
#3071
On December 16 2013 01:05 Harajuku wrote:
Hey guys, I'm planning to build my first (budget) PC on a (very) tight budget that I'd like to be as cost-efficient as possible. The OP has already been an immense help to me as my hardware knowledge is superficial at best. A good CPU is important because I often play CPU heavy games like SC2. Here is what I have in mind so far:

Processor: Intel Core i5 4570
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS
Memory: G.Skill 8 GB
Video Card: Radeon HD 6770 (from my old PC, will replace it with something better once I can afford it)
Case: Fractal Core 1000
Power Supply: 550W XFX Pro Core Edition
Storage: Samsung 120GB SSD (+ a 64GB one from my old PC)

Cost: about €450 in total, can't go much higher than that

Does this look good/okay? Anything obvious I'm missing? Thanks a lot in advance.

Thats pretty similar to what I built when I was going for a price/performance $500 rig. As you're aware that Gfx will wan an upgrade, I know in the US the Gfx deals suck after black Friday, no idea about Europe. One thin to note is that the psi you selected is a rebranded seasonic, which is a good thing. Other than that I assume the ram and mobo arethe cheapest 8gb and h81 around you, so that's fine. So yea, looks good for your price range
Harajuku
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
150 Posts
December 15 2013 17:43 GMT
#3072
Alright, thanks for the replies so far, I'll probably go with that then. One more question though: Would it be wise to invest in a slightly more costly motherboard, like a H87 instead of H81, for eventual upgrades in the future?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 15 2013 18:14 GMT
#3073
Not really. If you wanted more than 8 GB of RAM in the future or some other things like that, H87 would be better.

Actually, it's more about that board being low end even for H81. Make sure you won't be needing more expansion cards in general or more than four drives.

Also, take another look at the Core 1000's internal layout and make sure you're fine with not being able to fit a 3.5" drive natively if you're using two 2.5" mounting slots. IIRC.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 20:22:40
December 15 2013 20:18 GMT
#3074
On December 15 2013 21:29 IMKR wrote:
My case (corsair 200r) has a front panel usb 3.0
my mobo doesnt have a 3.0 inside, only 2.0
so i need a 3.0 to 2.0 adapter.
what is that item called?
when i look for it, it only brings up items for the rear and front ports isntead of the internal ports. (like the 4 pins stuff)

What you could do is use something like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-3-0-Motherboard-19-pin-Internal-Adapter-to-2-Male-3-0-Type-A-Cable-External-/271125054245

Then take those two cables you get and pull them out the back of the case and plug them into normal USB3 ports on the motherboard. It would look ugly at the back. You would have to leave one of those panels of the expansion slots open to get the cables out.

EDIT: Here's an internal USB3 to USB2 adapter in the US: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812162025
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 15 2013 20:54 GMT
#3075
On December 16 2013 05:18 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 21:29 IMKR wrote:
My case (corsair 200r) has a front panel usb 3.0
my mobo doesnt have a 3.0 inside, only 2.0
so i need a 3.0 to 2.0 adapter.
what is that item called?
when i look for it, it only brings up items for the rear and front ports isntead of the internal ports. (like the 4 pins stuff)

What you could do is use something like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-3-0-Motherboard-19-pin-Internal-Adapter-to-2-Male-3-0-Type-A-Cable-External-/271125054245

Then take those two cables you get and pull them out the back of the case and plug them into normal USB3 ports on the motherboard. It would look ugly at the back. You would have to leave one of those panels of the expansion slots open to get the cables out.

EDIT: Here's an internal USB3 to USB2 adapter in the US: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812162025


ah it's that thing that came with the silverstone came i got that made me believe that this sort of thing came with every case. that would probably work out
maru lover forever
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 15 2013 21:28 GMT
#3076
Most cases with USB3 front ports have an adapter for backwards compatibility. I guess 200R is just a bit too cheap for that.

Anyhow, do you really use your case front ports that much? Nobody says you need to hook everything up that's available.

Also, at those kinds of prices... man, you can just buy a PCIe card that has an actual USB3 header and a couple more USB3 ports out back for less than $20 or so. Then again, that'd fill every expansion slot in that motherboard.
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 23:58:45
December 15 2013 23:57 GMT
#3077
On December 16 2013 06:28 Myrmidon wrote:
Most cases with USB3 front ports have an adapter for backwards compatibility. I guess 200R is just a bit too cheap for that.

Anyhow, do you really use your case front ports that much? Nobody says you need to hook everything up that's available.

Also, at those kinds of prices... man, you can just buy a PCIe card that has an actual USB3 header and a couple more USB3 ports out back for less than $20 or so. Then again, that'd fill every expansion slot in that motherboard.


i plan on using the front panel usb ports for my flash drives and such. ( i use flash drives alot due to school)
although i guess i can just leave it alone on my case and just use the flash drive with my laptop

my motherboard is a H81 p33, im not sure how much expansion slot it has, but i think its limited.

also what are these things
On December 16 2013 06:28 Myrmidon wrote:you can just buy a PCIe card that has an actual USB3 header and a couple more USB3 ports out back for less than $20 or so
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
December 16 2013 00:08 GMT
#3078
On December 16 2013 08:57 IMKR wrote:
also what are these things
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 06:28 Myrmidon wrote:you can just buy a PCIe card that has an actual USB3 header and a couple more USB3 ports out back for less than $20 or so

Go to Google Image Search and type in "pcie usb3 card" and look at the pictures and you'll understand. It would go into that one short expansion card slot made out of black plastic you have on your motherboard.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
December 16 2013 00:28 GMT
#3079
On December 16 2013 08:57 IMKR wrote:
my motherboard is a H81 p33, im not sure how much expansion slot it has, but i think its limited.

Wait what?! Who told you to get that board? I made a post a while ago comparing all the H81 boards (that were available at the time) with the conclusion that the ASRock H81M was the best value (~$60)(ALC 898, 5fan headers, USB3 header, better Networking) and the ASRock H81M-HDS was the cheapest you would want to buy (~$52)(USB3 Header).

Name thee so I can shame shame shame them.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 00:57:45
December 16 2013 00:55 GMT
#3080
On December 16 2013 09:28 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 08:57 IMKR wrote:
my motherboard is a H81 p33, im not sure how much expansion slot it has, but i think its limited.

Wait what?! Who told you to get that board? I made a post a while ago comparing all the H81 boards (that were available at the time) with the conclusion that the ASRock H81M was the best value (~$60)(ALC 898, 5fan headers, USB3 header, better Networking) and the ASRock H81M-HDS was the cheapest you would want to buy (~$52)(USB3 Header).

Name thee so I can shame shame shame them.


i got that board for $28. due to promos/sales and MIR

EDIT: but for future reference, where is that post you made?
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