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IMKR
United States378 Posts
it goes to bios when i press delete, and goes to something about "reboot and choose what drive to boot up to" so, keeping in mind, that i will install my OS and GPU later, (next semester, as im going home on monday and my school screwed me over on the free OS) what do i do for now? do i just keep the pc off now? or do i change anything still? | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On December 14 2013 22:21 IMKR wrote: OKAY, I put together my monitor, and plugged in my PC, and IT WORKS !! it goes to bios when i press delete, and goes to something about "reboot and choose what drive to boot up to" so, keeping in mind, that i will install my OS and GPU later, (next semester, as im going home on monday and my school screwed me over on the free OS) what do i do for now? do i just keep the pc off now? or do i change anything still? there's nothing quite like turning on your first build :D | ||
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
On December 14 2013 11:57 Cyro wrote: You can't really comfortably max far cry 3 with msaa anyway with a 7850 For a low and maybe midrange card, yes. For high end? No You are completely right, and I dont consider a 7790 high end. On December 14 2013 12:36 IMKR wrote: i think its pretty dumb to buy any 1gb GPU atm. the prices for their 2gb isnt far off, and its pretty much worth the price. in addition, a GPU can last some 5 years or more. Id rather buy a good one now and save up more and keep using it, instead of just buying a decent card and end up having to upgrade it soon. http://www.legitreviews.com/sapphire-radeon-hd-7790-2gb-oc-edition-video-card-review_2175/17 $30 CND or 25% more (cheapest 2gb version vs cheapest 1gb I could find) for 1% gain? | ||
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
On December 14 2013 22:21 IMKR wrote: OKAY, I put together my monitor, and plugged in my PC, and IT WORKS !! it goes to bios when i press delete, and goes to something about "reboot and choose what drive to boot up to" so, keeping in mind, that i will install my OS and GPU later, (next semester, as im going home on monday and my school screwed me over on the free OS) what do i do for now? do i just keep the pc off now? or do i change anything still? You should run Memtest86+ | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
That's interesting. what is that and what purpose does it serve? | ||
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IMKR
United States378 Posts
On December 14 2013 23:31 Ata wrote: You are completely right, and I dont consider a 7790 high end. http://www.legitreviews.com/sapphire-radeon-hd-7790-2gb-oc-edition-video-card-review_2175/17 $30 CND or 25% more (cheapest 2gb version vs cheapest 1gb I could find) for 1% gain? thats BF. from what i know, BF isnt graphics intesnive, but more on the CPU side | ||
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IMKR
United States378 Posts
On December 14 2013 23:38 Incognoto wrote: That's interesting. what is that and what purpose does it serve? was about to ask this too. also, i dont have anything on this pc yet. (no OS) EDIT: from a quick google up, it looks like its a RAM stress test. seems pointless if u ask me, but i guess doesnt hurt to do it last after your first tests of the important stuff. | ||
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IMKR
United States378 Posts
On December 14 2013 22:50 y0su wrote: there's nothing quite like turning on your first build :D omg tell me about it lol. when i put it to go to the bios, i just stared at my PC and the fans spinning and everything for like 5 min. | ||
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On December 14 2013 23:39 IMKR wrote: thats BF. from what i know, BF isnt graphics intesnive, but more on the CPU side Battlefield 3 is not very cpu intensive. BF4 has funny cpu lag spikes, but bf3 was hardly taxing on my 2500k @ 4.4ghz compared to it's predecessor bc2 which fucking nailed it at 100% on all 4 cores even at high/ultra settings with a 560ti. As you can clearly see it needs the vram at 1440p but not 1080p. If the framerate was the same for all resolutions (regardless of vram, ie both tests show 40 fps for all resolutions) you could conclude it's cpu bottlenecked, but as you can see in the graphs this isn't the case. | ||
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IMKR
United States378 Posts
On December 14 2013 23:47 Rollin wrote: Battlefield 3 is not very cpu intensive. BF4 has funny cpu lag spikes, but bf3 was hardly taxing on my 2500k @ 4.4ghz compared to it's predecessor bc2 which fucking nailed it at 100% on all 4 cores even at high/ultra settings with a 560ti. As you can clearly see it needs the vram at 1440p but not 1080p. If the framerate was the same for all resolutions (regardless of vram, ie both tests show 40 fps for all resolutions) you could conclude it's cpu bottlenecked, but as you can see in the graphs this isn't the case. really? i remember a mod from here quoting an article talking about bf being more CPU intensive than gpu even when i look at benchmarks, theres not much improvement with GPU | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
On December 14 2013 23:38 Incognoto wrote: That's interesting. what is that and what purpose does it serve? It tests your ram sticks (also the ram slots on your motherboard). You dont want to realize +1 month in that one of your ram sticks has issues causing something like system freezes every once in a while. You can obviously still send them to manufacturer as most rams come with lifetime warranty even after 1 month, but they could be further away (or it could the motherboard) I dont think you need an OS to run it as you put it on a bootable USB stick but im not 100% sure. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On December 14 2013 23:49 IMKR wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 14 2013 23:47 Rollin wrote: Battlefield 3 is not very cpu intensive. BF4 has funny cpu lag spikes, but bf3 was hardly taxing on my 2500k @ 4.4ghz compared to it's predecessor bc2 which fucking nailed it at 100% on all 4 cores even at high/ultra settings with a 560ti. As you can clearly see it needs the vram at 1440p but not 1080p. If the framerate was the same for all resolutions (regardless of vram, ie both tests show 40 fps for all resolutions) you could conclude it's cpu bottlenecked, but as you can see in the graphs this isn't the case. really? i remember a mod from here quoting an article talking about bf being more CPU intensive than gpu even when i look at benchmarks, theres not much improvement with GPU Look at the benchmark he posted. Increasing the resolution increases the gpu load and not the cpu load. He goes from 57 fps to 14 fps by increasing the work the gpu does, do you think it's gpu or cpu bound here? @incog BF4 just sucks. Cyro showed a graph of really high fps with huge dips regardless of graphics settings or resolution or something on his haswell, on a high end gpu. BF4 takes a high end gpu for high settings, and also a high end cpu for overall smoothness from what i garnered. Regardless, why are we talking about bf4 when it's a bf3 benchmark? ^_____^ | ||
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IMKR
United States378 Posts
also, what is the naming convention for this? like whats the difference between saying DVI to HDMI and HDMI to DVI? which one is talking about the GPU portion and which is the monitor portion? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
BF4 just sucks. Cyro showed a graph of really high fps with huge dips regardless of graphics settings or resolution or something on his haswell, on a high end gpu. BF4 takes a high end gpu for high settings, and also a high end cpu for overall smoothness from what i garnered. Yea i looked into this quite a bit more; so far the best bet for good smoothness is win8.1 and having two gpu's if you dont have a flagship (maybe you can get by with a 770/280x) with some settings turned down and also overclocked haswell or lga2011 This seems like a good performance graph, but the game is quite inconsistent and microstuttery so if it says 80fps you can have experience worse than a game being locked at 50, no problem. I've seen benches and frametimes from half a dozen people playing on like OC haswell, 1080p ultra, single GPU with ~3-10% of their frames slower than 16.7ms ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7opPnep.jpg) You'd usually target like 1.2x your refresh rate in FPS to keep most frames above it, but 79fps on high end system looks like this on bf4 apparently ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/JMoAR55.png) Does a DVI (from gpu) to HDMI (to Monitor) have audio? or only HDMI to HDMI have audio? also, what is the naming convention for this? like whats the difference between saying DVI to HDMI and HDMI to DVI? which one is talking about the GPU portion and which is the monitor portion? Only HDMI to HDMI, the DVI-out doesn't give audio I would just say DVI-HDMI for example (out-in) | ||
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IMKR
United States378 Posts
[quote] [quote]Does a DVI (from gpu) to HDMI (to Monitor) have audio? or only HDMI to HDMI have audio? also, what is the naming convention for this? like whats the difference between saying DVI to HDMI and HDMI to DVI? which one is talking about the GPU portion and which is the monitor portion? [/quote] Only HDMI to HDMI, the DVI-out doesn't give audio I would just say DVI-HDMI for example (out-in)[/QUOTE] so if im using a DVI, i would have to also buy speakers right? (but my monitor has built in speakers) for the out-in, is the gpu portion the out? and monitor is the in? | ||
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On December 15 2013 09:33 IMKR wrote: so if im using a DVI, i would have to also buy speakers right? (but my monitor has built in speakers) for the out-in, is the gpu portion the out? and monitor is the in? Cyro was not right. It's not in the DVI standard, but the cards that do HDMI audio will also often do audio over DVI EDIT: I'm unsure about the monitor side of this. I've only seen it work with a DVI-to-HDMI cable, HDMI on the monitor side and using DVI on the graphics card. Google doesn't really help. | ||
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