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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
December 26 2012 16:00 GMT
#741
^I dont think its related to that, unless there is something like a VRAM issue. Temps would be my first hint if the problem is only with OBS active because you would have considerably higher average CPU load especially with aggressive settings, and failing that, maybe GPU driver versions or something like that.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
beardybum
Profile Joined December 2012
United Kingdom3 Posts
December 26 2012 17:16 GMT
#742
aha... i think i found the problem. when i stream, my CPU temp goes to 85degrees C, and then it begins to lag like crazy... then if i leave the game on, but stop streaming, it takes 2 mins for the temp to go down to about 70degrees C, then the game stops lagging.

checked my CPU and there is no thermal paste left, its all dried up... going to get some thermal paste tomoz, pretty sure thats the problem. 85 degrees is not healthy, lol.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 18:33:38
December 26 2012 18:33 GMT
#743
^Thats what i said, CPU overheat.

85c is obscene temp for bulldozer, from what i hear you should be like 40-45c for stress testing. 85c is too hot for intel CPU's, which are much much more heat tolerant. Gaming+Streaming wont push up your temperatures nearly as high as stress test, so you must have pretty big issues. Are you using the stock cooler? What about case fans etc?

If all of your thermal paste really dried up then that could cause your issues but it seems pretty odd for that to happen, thermal paste has a usage life of years.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
December 26 2012 18:36 GMT
#744
On December 26 2012 21:23 LgNKami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 20:53 BforBrisk wrote:
Hello, I am no expert on setting for streaming so I've come here to ask for help. Here is my Speedtest and my spec's if someone could give the a list of settings that would specifically fit my PC and Connection based on resolution it would be much appreciated as I know nothing of how to do so.

The Setting I would be looking for will be for streaming League of legends.
If i could just get opinions on how to stream it also if i should use the game capture or just screen region.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2395077174.png
Down: 36.28 Up:4.93 Ping:20ms
(This is to the nearest Server to the Twitch.tv server)


System Specs:

Processor: AMD FX(tm)-4170 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~4.6GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM
Card name: 2x Radeon HD 7700 Series Crossfired (1gb and 2gb)


You will more than likely have a hard time streaming on an FX quad core (but then again, I used to stream on a Phenom II x3). You will want to try a lower resolution first. Assuming you're playing in 1080p, try streaming at 960x540 with quality at 8 and bitrate at 1000



I dont know why you would give this advice again. Its good to give some, but the quality balance settings are basically awful in streaming programs, i wouldnt suggest using them to almost anyone.

1280x720@30fps is extremely easy (less than half of the load of 1920x1080@30fps), so you dont need to drop resolution that far, and even if you did, there is no reason not to use like 3mbit bitrate. Blu-rays use 50mbit for 1920x1080@24fps - you can very clearly benefit from going much higher than 1mbit if you have the bandwidth for it (OP does)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
December 26 2012 18:38 GMT
#745
And here I am overheating to 90 degrees C when I stream :/

Thankfully the technician should be over tomorrow/day after to clean it out and hopefully fix things. I'm still under warranty so I don't want to open my laptop up myself.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 18:45:27
December 26 2012 18:42 GMT
#746
^90c on an intel CPU isnt insane, but people stay over 20 degrees cooler on FX cpu's vs i5/i7.

Laptops are built poorly, and a 2'nd/3'rd gen i5/i7 isnt going to freak out too badly at 80-90c short term. A bulldozer CPU would. Overheating issues are extremely common with any kind of performance on a laptop too.

They are basically designed to be small and quiet, to suit the majority of consumers who want that and/or dont know any better, with no regard for actually being able to USE the hardware that they are build around. You could increase the size/weight/noise by 20% to cut temperatures by a very large margin, but nobody wants to do that, and most of them wont notice the fatal flaws of having high performance parts squashed into a too small and inadequately cooled area.

You might want to look at Throttlestop (IF you can use it to lower your CPU frequency, dont use it otherwise as it will just make you hit thermal shutdown) or similar programs for GPU for underclocking. You can get temps down pretty far that way if you know what you are doing, at a my-pc-is-no-longer-dieing-so-it's-ok performance penalty.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Perfektion
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden7 Posts
December 27 2012 10:22 GMT
#747
Im using OBS for my stream. Sometimes I get huge FPS drops even if I got the settings on very low quality.

My PC:

8G RAM
Nvidia GeForce GTX 670
INTEL CORE i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz

My Internet: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2396991789.png

If someone could give me some examples of what by "Bitrate" and "Buffer Size" should be on it would be awsome! Im currently using "5" on Quality and 2500/2500 on the others. Also Anything that could explain why one could get FPS drops ? Thanks !
DJFaqU
Profile Joined May 2011
466 Posts
December 27 2012 12:10 GMT
#748
On December 27 2012 02:16 beardybum wrote:
aha... i think i found the problem. when i stream, my CPU temp goes to 85degrees C, and then it begins to lag like crazy... then if i leave the game on, but stop streaming, it takes 2 mins for the temp to go down to about 70degrees C, then the game stops lagging.

checked my CPU and there is no thermal paste left, its all dried up... going to get some thermal paste tomoz, pretty sure thats the problem. 85 degrees is not healthy, lol.


Thermal paste drying up is normal and no problem. All the paste is supposed to to is smooth out the surface on the cooler and the CPU.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
December 27 2012 20:49 GMT
#749
known issue or something i have?

when streaming with obs and closing obs and resuming the game without closing it...game goes to 29fps (normally 60fps) even at start of the game, constant 29 fps ~~ have to quit sc2 and restart it to get it back to normal, happens since i updated from 3 weeks old version to up2date version (stable version)
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
CrazyIvanPL
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland220 Posts
December 31 2012 15:55 GMT
#750
weird thing: When i have my webcam on stream along side with sc2 and overlay, i have a lot of dropped frames and stuff like 10 fps instead of 30 ona 480p, when i turned webcam off, went for 540p with 30fps it's as smooth as 30fps is, no frame loses, zero drops... i think this could be some kind of bug or just my pc is weak enough.
RemarK
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States452 Posts
January 02 2013 03:46 GMT
#751
Man I love OBS, so much better than Xsplit for me and it's free. Thanks again for this great guide, I've been recommending it to everyone who asks about streaming software!
I <3 StarCraft.
eskashaborn
Profile Joined April 2011
United States177 Posts
January 02 2013 04:11 GMT
#752
For some reason both Vegas Movie Studio and Final Cut Pro X (Video Editing Software) don't like the output video's format...should I just try and convert the video to a different format? Is this a special format of mp4 or something?
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
January 02 2013 11:05 GMT
#753
anyone else having problems streamig with OBS. For some reason it doesn't capture anything. instead the screen is all black, but when I launch FFsplit or xplit before I open obs it works, but only as long as I have both the other streaming software and obs on.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
January 02 2013 13:49 GMT
#754
On January 02 2013 12:46 RemarK wrote:
Man I love OBS, so much better than Xsplit for me and it's free. Thanks again for this great guide, I've been recommending it to everyone who asks about streaming software!


What's better?

If you are citing performance im kinda curious to see some controlled benchmarks from other people
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
January 02 2013 14:09 GMT
#755
Cyro, stop posting in this thread, you keep repeating that it should have the same performance yet every single person has experienced better performance.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-02 14:46:45
January 02 2013 14:19 GMT
#756
Im repeating that i have never seen controlled benchmarks indicating better performance (if it happens, on what kind of systems or conditions it does, etc, are unknown and/or unproven to me) and that ive seen a whole bunch of people throwing around misinformation about performance and other things relating to streaming programs, if you want to dispute that go right ahead. Id love to become more informed.

I use OBS and Xsplit and i have put many hours of my time into understanding the smaller details of how a lot of things work, and into benchmarking a lot of different things as well.

Are you referring to my posts a week or more ago? I have some 50 posts/week and no idea what you are talking about specifically.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-02 17:50:35
January 02 2013 17:49 GMT
#757
On January 02 2013 23:19 Cyro wrote:
Im repeating that i have never seen controlled benchmarks indicating better performance (if it happens, on what kind of systems or conditions it does, etc, are unknown and/or unproven to me) and that ive seen a whole bunch of people throwing around misinformation about performance and other things relating to streaming programs, if you want to dispute that go right ahead. Id love to become more informed.

I use OBS and Xsplit and i have put many hours of my time into understanding the smaller details of how a lot of things work, and into benchmarking a lot of different things as well.

Are you referring to my posts a week or more ago? I have some 50 posts/week and no idea what you are talking about specifically.


I really do not know what to think about you and your posts, but almost every time you post in this thread I have the impression that OBS killed your cat and now you are seeking vengeance for it in each and every post.

I suggest to stop posting in this thread if you do not have something good to add but bitter posts (sorry, but that's how I perceive most of your posts)

For anyone else, I'm sorry I had to make such post.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
January 02 2013 19:32 GMT
#758
^You are misinterpreting them.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
January 02 2013 19:40 GMT
#759
On January 03 2013 04:32 Cyro wrote:
^You are misinterpreting them.

Or you're miscommunicating your intent.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
January 02 2013 20:24 GMT
#760
On January 03 2013 04:40 RiSkyToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 04:32 Cyro wrote:
^You are misinterpreting them.

Or you're miscommunicating your intent.


In what way?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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