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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 02:22:29
March 31 2015 02:14 GMT
#2041
On March 31 2015 10:48 Zaviior wrote:
So I have the problem of having a 4.7mbps upload speed. When I preveiw the stream my bitrate shown matches this, but as soon as I start an actual stream I begin to drop lots of frames and have at last a 1mpbs drop in my bitrate, even if I lower the bitrate it still drops even more than its beginning position. Is this something unique to my computer/connection or is this a general problem? I can post all the info and screenshots you need.


Are you doing speed test WHILE streaming? The stream will use some of your bandwidth and make the test inaccurate - you should only run bandwidth tests while nothing else is using any bandwidth other than the testing application

You can use this test for twitch servers - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/478845-twitchtest-twitch-bandwidth-tester

^set the tcp window to 128k manually

the actual bitrate that you should use, CBR, within OBS should be the number that you get from that to that particular server, with some limits:

1; Should be 3500 or below
2; should be at least ~200-300 below your upload bandwidth, or 10-20% below if your upload is ~2mbit+. That's to account for variance in upload bandwidth as well as other programs using small amounts of it

If you're dropping frames on a server that the above test says is good for you, then lower bitrate until you stop dropping.. and then go down about 10% more. Upload speed will vary, it might barely vary at all or it could have huge swings some days or hours vs others depending on your ISP and connection hardware
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-14 22:22:33
August 14 2015 22:20 GMT
#2042
I'm getting microstuttering when live streaming and recording video in OBS, I've had this issue before and fixed it I think but I can't for the life of me remember how. The stream & vods always looks fine but in-game it's clearly noticeable. Frames is actually fine at 60+ even in the most intense battles but if anyone ever had microstuttering you know how it presents itself and how annoying it is. Using the latest multiplatform version of OBS in Win10 64-bit with the D3D11 renderer & Sc2 in fullscreen windowed mode.

If anyone knows right off the bat what setting it was to change I'd very much appreciate it.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
August 15 2015 03:37 GMT
#2043
Do you only have the problem in sc2? Sc2 has several issues with microstutter and pronounced stutters at certain intervals and the performance losses from streaming make them more obvious
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-15 11:20:27
August 15 2015 11:14 GMT
#2044
On August 15 2015 12:37 Cyro wrote:
Do you only have the problem in sc2? Sc2 has several issues with microstutter and pronounced stutters at certain intervals and the performance losses from streaming make them more obvious

This is not set intervals microstutter, it's all the time 24/7. Hit the stream button and it appears then turn it off and video is smooth once more. I know about the normal ones and I hardly notice them on the new rig.

Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany535 Posts
August 16 2015 20:22 GMT
#2045
Hey there,

figured I'd ask here for advice.
I started having short freezes in some situations when recording videos (not streaming). Here is an example of what happens:



Noet that those freezes only happen from time to time whenever something "big" happens on the screen. I tinkered with all kinds of options without success thus far.
Does anyone have an idea what could be the cause for those short freezes? They don't appear in the preview screen and not in the game either, only in the finishes video.
Thanks in advance...
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-16 21:33:30
August 16 2015 21:32 GMT
#2046
On August 17 2015 05:22 Nezgar wrote:
Hey there,

figured I'd ask here for advice.
I started having short freezes in some situations when recording videos (not streaming). Here is an example of what happens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf4aDor1z_0

Noet that those freezes only happen from time to time whenever something "big" happens on the screen. I tinkered with all kinds of options without success thus far.
Does anyone have an idea what could be the cause for those short freezes? They don't appear in the preview screen and not in the game either, only in the finishes video.
Thanks in advance...

u shud probably check out the logs

go to help > log files, and find the log that corresponds to the recording, then upload it to pastebin or something

edit: in fact obs already has the option to upload log files for you
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany535 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-17 12:41:42
August 16 2015 22:05 GMT
#2047
LINK TO THE LOGFILE
The recording from the video in question starts at 20:50:57 and ends at 21:06:11
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10890 Posts
August 17 2015 06:17 GMT
#2048
Does anyone have any idea why the sound levels would change when going into StarCraft 2 while streaming? Microphone level changes and when speaking it sounds like a robot, have to manually correct this each time, any ideas?
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-17 08:47:02
August 17 2015 08:45 GMT
#2049
On August 17 2015 07:05 Nezgar wrote:
LINK TO THE LOGFILE
The recording from the video in question starts at 20:50:21 and ends at 21:06:11

im not very knowledgeable in looking at the logs, but for some reason the recording seems to stop at 20:50:22 and start again at 20:50:57

but if you say that the freezes only seem to happen when theres something big happening in the game, it points towards your cpu not being able to encode those frames
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
August 17 2015 10:41 GMT
#2050
On August 17 2015 15:17 GGzerG wrote:
Does anyone have any idea why the sound levels would change when going into StarCraft 2 while streaming? Microphone level changes and when speaking it sounds like a robot, have to manually correct this each time, any ideas?

Sc2 always changes windows mic levels to match in-game voip setting even when disabled so mske sure sc2 mic level match what you want it to be in stream/win.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany535 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-17 12:47:34
August 17 2015 12:41 GMT
#2051
On August 17 2015 17:45 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 07:05 Nezgar wrote:
LINK TO THE LOGFILE
The recording from the video in question starts at 20:50:21 and ends at 21:06:11

im not very knowledgeable in looking at the logs, but for some reason the recording seems to stop at 20:50:22 and start again at 20:50:57

but if you say that the freezes only seem to happen when theres something big happening in the game, it points towards your cpu not being able to encode those frames


You are right, my apologies... The recording in question starts at 20:50:57, I'll edit that in my post.

The odd thing is: At times the screen is full of effects and stuff going on without it resulting in a freeze. Like... right after the freeze there are 2 instances of the screen getting filled with particle effects and everything is just fine.
In any case, what setting would I have to change in order for the freezes to stop (or at least being less severe)?
I initially used OBS more than a year ago without those problems. I didn't record anything from ~August last year to May this year. When I picked it up again, I started having those issues. So I suspect something in the app or something in my setting changed and started to cause those issues.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 17 2015 13:09 GMT
#2052
your settings look fine to me, except the bitrate seems high (10000), but idk if it matters if ur just recording and not streaming.

do you get any indication during the recording that there is freezing, like does the game itself run smoothly?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany535 Posts
August 17 2015 18:12 GMT
#2053
The game and the preview while recording both look absolutely smooth. I am using 2 monitors, so I can see the preview while recording on my second monitor and there are no freezes in the preview window. I could even play while only watching the second monitor so I have no idea why the freezes appear in the finished video.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10890 Posts
August 17 2015 21:12 GMT
#2054
On August 17 2015 19:41 Firkraag8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 15:17 GGzerG wrote:
Does anyone have any idea why the sound levels would change when going into StarCraft 2 while streaming? Microphone level changes and when speaking it sounds like a robot, have to manually correct this each time, any ideas?

Sc2 always changes windows mic levels to match in-game voip setting even when disabled so mske sure sc2 mic level match what you want it to be in stream/win.

Can you explain how to do this?
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
August 17 2015 23:13 GMT
#2055
On August 18 2015 06:12 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 19:41 Firkraag8 wrote:
On August 17 2015 15:17 GGzerG wrote:
Does anyone have any idea why the sound levels would change when going into StarCraft 2 while streaming? Microphone level changes and when speaking it sounds like a robot, have to manually correct this each time, any ideas?

Sc2 always changes windows mic levels to match in-game voip setting even when disabled so mske sure sc2 mic level match what you want it to be in stream/win.

Can you explain how to do this?


---> http://i.imgur.com/fPB4mau.png <---

Can't remember exactly which one but I think it's Microphone level. Adjust that to the level you want it at then apply+accept then after that you can disable voip again. For some reason the sc2 solution uses the windows microphone levels and adjusts it at sc2 startup if it differs from in-game.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10890 Posts
August 17 2015 23:22 GMT
#2056
On August 18 2015 08:13 Firkraag8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2015 06:12 GGzerG wrote:
On August 17 2015 19:41 Firkraag8 wrote:
On August 17 2015 15:17 GGzerG wrote:
Does anyone have any idea why the sound levels would change when going into StarCraft 2 while streaming? Microphone level changes and when speaking it sounds like a robot, have to manually correct this each time, any ideas?

Sc2 always changes windows mic levels to match in-game voip setting even when disabled so mske sure sc2 mic level match what you want it to be in stream/win.

Can you explain how to do this?


---> http://i.imgur.com/fPB4mau.png <---

Can't remember exactly which one but I think it's Microphone level. Adjust that to the level you want it at then apply+accept then after that you can disable voip again. For some reason the sc2 solution uses the windows microphone levels and adjusts it at sc2 startup if it differs from in-game.

When you say disable VOiP, you mean disabling voice chat in sc2 all together?
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-18 00:15:36
August 18 2015 00:15 GMT
#2057
Enabled, disabled it really makes no difference in the end that depends on if you use it or not... The game will autoadjust your windows microphone levels based on those settings everytime you boot up the game regardless. I don't know how I can explain it any more clearly than that.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 18 2015 08:30 GMT
#2058
On August 18 2015 03:12 Nezgar wrote:
The game and the preview while recording both look absolutely smooth. I am using 2 monitors, so I can see the preview while recording on my second monitor and there are no freezes in the preview window. I could even play while only watching the second monitor so I have no idea why the freezes appear in the finished video.

i think try reducing the bitrate and see what happens, 10000 is really really high, go for something like 4000, even if you're not actually streaming it
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
August 18 2015 15:54 GMT
#2059
@nezgar try using a resolution downscale. 2x downscale = 1/4 resolution and way reduced load on the encoder, if that doesn't stutter then you're not encoding fast enough
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany535 Posts
August 18 2015 20:50 GMT
#2060
I tried lowering the bitrate down to 3500 (later 1000) and set the downscale to x2... The result is the same: In the game and the preview window everything is smooth, in the finished video there are those short freezes every now and then.
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