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luciusvlm
Profile Joined May 2011
Spain134 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 12:34:19
April 23 2012 12:34 GMT
#1
Hi first of all apologies for my bad english,i try use the search button but didnt find something

I want to buy a new Chair i was searching at the DXraceer models and cost like 300€, you have any recommendations in the range of 150-300$?


thanks!
i3rainless
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany34 Posts
April 23 2012 13:43 GMT
#2
Buy one of the DXracer models!! They are great two friends of mine have them and I have to say they are awesome!!!
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
April 23 2012 14:01 GMT
#3
Not exactly your price range but hot damn!

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Rillanon.au
Crazyseal
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom259 Posts
April 23 2012 14:44 GMT
#4
I recently bought a new chair and it would 100% recommend it to anybody. It has great height for your head to rest, great lower back support so you can sit for a while without any discomfort, very adjustable in height depending on how tall you are. Also it has a great mesh back to allow for a bit of breathing so you dont get all sweaty and stuck to the back.

Its £125 check it out if you have an Ikea nearby:

http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/20103101/
Puppeteer
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium9 Posts
April 23 2012 14:54 GMT
#5
I have the exact same chair as Crazyseal, been using it for just over 3 years. Still standing strong and absolutely great sitting pleasure.
They say ignorance is bliss. Is it true?
luciusvlm
Profile Joined May 2011
Spain134 Posts
April 24 2012 06:27 GMT
#6
Thanks a lot, yesterday i was searching in ikea and found the markus model,so maybe this weekend i go to ikea (20km) and buy it!
mewo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States221 Posts
April 24 2012 07:25 GMT
#7
I second the dxracer. It forces you to sit properly.
cristo1122
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 07:37:39
April 24 2012 07:32 GMT
#8
http://www.buroseating.co.nz/TheRange/TaskSeating/tabid/90/ctl/ViewProduct/mid/498/ID/100006/Default.aspx

Buro Aura (got mine with armrests)

cost on the visa 375 dollars

cost of comfortable gaming priceless.

btw anyone who thinks that im nuts i spent more money on the psyo bills due to a terrible chair than this one cost. It got to the point where my psyo figured out what was casuing my intense excruiting pain and then promptly orded me to buy a new one. Ever since then i have had no problems
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 24 2012 07:32 GMT
#9
Crazyseal: that is a completely unsuitable chair for computer use and thus not a good advice.

The main ergonomical problem with 90 % of what you can wee in Ikea surprisingly isn't the wacky mechanics and nonexistent sturdiness (those ARE a big problem, but can be tolerated), but a vey simple and stupid thing: armrests.

When sitting, you should assume the followin posture: whole feet on the ground, legs straight up from there, 90 degrees in knees, another 90 degrees where you sit a the rest of the body straight up. From this posture, you want to put your hands so that they again form a rather 90 degree angle in your elbow and this elbow rests on the armrest! This last point is impossible to achieve (in the right posture!) on most Ikea chairs as the armrest is simply too short.

Of course, the feasibility of the right posture depends also on the table, if your table height is wrong (usually it is too high), then a correct chair will not help you too much - more so if the table desk is too thick (some manufactureres nowadays even include a "handy" shelf under the desk - it is probably to put money for physiotherapy).
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2012 07:41 GMT
#10
On April 24 2012 16:32 cristo1122 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.buroseating.co.nz/TheRange/TaskSeating/tabid/90/ctl/ViewProduct/mid/498/ID/100006/Default.aspx

Buro Aura (got mine with armrests)

cost on the visa 375 dollars

cost of comfortable gaming priceless.

btw anyone who thinks that im nuts i spent more money on the psyo bills due to a terrible chair than this one cost. It got to the point where my psyo figured out what was casuing my intense excruiting pain and then promptly orded me to buy a new one. Ever since then i have had no problems


$375 is like literally nothing for something that you sit on everyday for hours on end.
MutantGenepool
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia115 Posts
April 24 2012 07:52 GMT
#11
Asking what chair to buy is a good idea as far as brand goes. However, everybody is VERY different and I would say it would be a good idea to go to a store and actually sit in the thing first. After all, you will be sitting in it for hours at a time.
What do you want a headrest for? Gonna stick it in your car? Most of the time you will probably be sitting forward.
Get one that feels right that has height and back adjustment, feels good at the back of your knees, bum and back.
Expensive does not always mean good. There's over priced stuff everywhere. If you want to impress somebody impress yourself first.
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 08:14:41
April 24 2012 08:11 GMT
#12
Is there a good chair my cats won't be able to fuck up?

And yeah about the armrests. Its the hidden performance increaser. Won't see it in manuals about proper typing posture either if I recall since its mostly a gamer thing but if you can perfect the art of elbows on rests, wrists straight and unpressured, back straight, then you are in posture nirvana.

My favorite player to watch is MarineKing, he has amazing posture. And I think its the number 1 secret to playing games for a lifetime without any wrist injury.

I have a $1400 chair from the 1980's but its about time to get a new one (handed down). But a lot of really good stuff is made of leather and my cats are feelers and I cant train them out of it for the life of me /frowntown.
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 08:29:55
April 24 2012 08:20 GMT
#13
If you want to spend a bit of money, Steelcase and Herman Miller chairs are fantastic and they'll generally be made of plastic or that hard wearing mesh material. I recommend you buy them second hand; second hand does not mean they'll be falling apart because those things are built to last and have something obscene like 12 years of warranty.

You can probably find a Steelcase Leap for around $400-600 second hand in the United States on eBay, Craigslist, or even office liquidators. Not sure if that's totally cat-proof but its a lot better than your typical pleather executive chair from Officeworks or whatever budget office supply store you have in the States.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2012 08:30 GMT
#14
Steelcase Leap is either fabric or leather so I'm pretty sure cats would tear through it. And unfortunately for you, their lifetime warranty does not cover cats.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
April 24 2012 08:37 GMT
#15
Sorry, I got confused. The lower end model, the Steelcase Think, should be completely mesh. For around $400-800 you can get an Herman Miller Aeron too.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 09:00:24
April 24 2012 08:57 GMT
#16
I hear a lot about these mesh chairs and the Aeron in particular. I definitely dont mind buying second hand. But for something like this I would like to get at least 30 years out of it.

There is more too. The current chair im trying to emulate is enormous. Made of a ton of steal. And the threading on the fabric is incredibly taut and thick. And its lumbar is simply sublime.

These chairs look rinky dink. So its a bit of a, shock I guess.
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luciusvlm
Profile Joined May 2011
Spain134 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 09:06:38
April 24 2012 09:05 GMT
#17
well i was searching and found some chairs in differents range

this one and the DXracer have same price to spain
Office Star Space Professional Deluxe Matrex Back Chair with Adjustable Headrest and Mesh Seat
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this one 120$ very cheap

High Back Black Split Leather Chair with Mesh Back [BT-905-GG]

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and some dxracer like 400$


DXRACER "SMOOTH SPORT" RS

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and finally the markus from ikea like 200-250$

Markus

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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 09:29:54
April 24 2012 09:27 GMT
#18
The thing is you don't need a COMPUTER chair, you need an ergonomic chair that works with your body.

IKEA chairs are complete shit, you will be lucky to get 2 years use out of it, then you will back to square one. To be honest, any $100 to $200 chairs are rip offs and will be a throw away in 1-2 years. For a chair that you will use everyday, spend big.

http://ergohuman.com/

If you can't afford a Herman Miller etc... then have a look @ ergohuman.
Rillanon.au
Crazyseal
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom259 Posts
April 24 2012 09:41 GMT
#19
On April 24 2012 16:32 opisska wrote:
Crazyseal: that is a completely unsuitable chair for computer use and thus not a good advice.

The main ergonomical problem with 90 % of what you can wee in Ikea surprisingly isn't the wacky mechanics and nonexistent sturdiness (those ARE a big problem, but can be tolerated), but a vey simple and stupid thing: armrests.


Im not sure how tall/short you are, but i can see what your saying if your under 5'5, but i really love the position of the chair and how it feels. Personal preference i guess.

IKEA chairs are complete shit, you will be lucky to get 2 years use out of it, then you will back to square one. To be honest, any $100 to $200 chairs are rip offs and will be a throw away in 1-2 years. For a chair that you will use everyday, spend big.


I think this is a real underselling of the Ikea chairs. They are not really comparable to ones that costs thousands of pounds, but for the price they are unmatched in quality and comfortability. My previous chair was a hand me down from Ikea and that lasted around 8 years. I agree that a one spend is good, but there is no need to go super overboard.

luciusvlm
Profile Joined May 2011
Spain134 Posts
April 24 2012 09:46 GMT
#20
On April 24 2012 18:27 haduken wrote:
The thing is you don't need a COMPUTER chair, you need an ergonomic chair that works with your body.

IKEA chairs are complete shit, you will be lucky to get 2 years use out of it, then you will back to square one. To be honest, any $100 to $200 chairs are rip offs and will be a throw away in 1-2 years. For a chair that you will use everyday, spend big.

http://ergohuman.com/

If you can't afford a Herman Miller etc... then have a look @ ergohuman.





thanks actually i cant afford a herman miller,any recommendations at ergohuman?
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 10:06:02
April 24 2012 10:02 GMT
#21
To each their own. I never get 2 years out of an IKEA chair. $200 is 1/5 of the price of a Herman Miller while giving you 1/15 of the value. Herman miller have 10 year warranty with good reselling price, maintained well can last you a life time.

IKEA chairs have zero value differentiation compare to other generic Chinese makes. What you get from a mall or IKEA are direct from the same factory in China.

Herman and equivalents do not cost thousands... $1000 is the market price.
Rillanon.au
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 10:06:21
April 24 2012 10:04 GMT
#22
On April 24 2012 18:46 luciusvlm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 18:27 haduken wrote:
The thing is you don't need a COMPUTER chair, you need an ergonomic chair that works with your body.

IKEA chairs are complete shit, you will be lucky to get 2 years use out of it, then you will back to square one. To be honest, any $100 to $200 chairs are rip offs and will be a throw away in 1-2 years. For a chair that you will use everyday, spend big.

http://ergohuman.com/

If you can't afford a Herman Miller etc... then have a look @ ergohuman.





thanks actually i cant afford a herman miller,any recommendations at ergohuman?


It depends, I am short, 175cm tall so prefer the low back ones but you might like the high back ones. The V2 retails around $500 AUD in my country, shop around and see if you can get it around that price.
Rillanon.au
cristo1122
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia505 Posts
April 24 2012 10:20 GMT
#23
On April 24 2012 16:41 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 16:32 cristo1122 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.buroseating.co.nz/TheRange/TaskSeating/tabid/90/ctl/ViewProduct/mid/498/ID/100006/Default.aspx

Buro Aura (got mine with armrests)

cost on the visa 375 dollars

cost of comfortable gaming priceless.

btw anyone who thinks that im nuts i spent more money on the psyo bills due to a terrible chair than this one cost. It got to the point where my psyo figured out what was casuing my intense excruiting pain and then promptly orded me to buy a new one. Ever since then i have had no problems


$375 is like literally nothing for something that you sit on everyday for hours on end.


375 is about 3 weeks pay for me, before tax so yeah i had to work for it my mummy and daddy arent so able as to buy me the 3000 deluxe model.
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 10:28:15
April 24 2012 10:27 GMT
#24
There are things in life where you want to spend the right amount, not the cheapest amount.

Would you buy a shitty car that cost you 5000 but you need to spend another 10K in 5 years to repair it or would you spend 10K and get a recent year car that cost you $500 dollars to maintain in 5 years?
Rillanon.au
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2012 10:28 GMT
#25
Didn't you say comfort is priceless? I'm not sure why you are using mommy and daddy insults, that's pretty pathetic.
cristo1122
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 10:43:04
April 24 2012 10:35 GMT
#26
nope im just pointing out that 375 is literally nothing for u this is not the case for myself and other individuals also i take the bus though i do agree sometimes u just have to spend a bit more which gives u a better quality product that lasts longer and or is more suited to your purpose.

also i agree about the ikea chairs waste of space and money.

btw
i was making a reference to a visa ad just trying to be comic
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pique
Profile Joined August 2011
143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 10:45:32
April 24 2012 10:44 GMT
#27
On April 24 2012 19:27 haduken wrote:
There are things in life where you want to spend the right amount, not the cheapest amount.

Would you buy a shitty car that cost you 5000 but you need to spend another 10K in 5 years to repair it or would you spend 10K and get a recent year car that cost you $500 dollars to maintain in 5 years?


I take it you own an Ergohuman chair then? If so, can you shed some insight on things to consider before I commit? Like, is it essentially one size fits all with the adjustments and such? I'm looking at a low-back, no headrest chair on Ebay. I feel like i wont really be leaning to an extent where I'd use the headrest much. Thoughts?

Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 11:03:32
April 24 2012 11:01 GMT
#28
I've never used an Ergohuman chair (or I didn't know about it) but I know the Aeron I have basically has a billion adjustments to fit a decent range of postures. The thing you should look out for is their size since each size is designed to fit people of certain weights and heights. You can probably find a reference sheet on their website.

The only real way to find whether or not you like a chair is to use it in a store...which can be difficult to do if you can't find a store that has stock. I know a few people who really don't like chairs like the Steelcase Think or Herman Miller Aeron since they can be rather stiff or even feel suffocating at times (can't feel my legs!).
GullyFoyle
Profile Joined October 2010
United States103 Posts
April 24 2012 11:07 GMT
#29

My hospital, normally extremely frugal, bought Herman Miller Aeron chairs for ALL the department managers, supervisors, and attending physicians. I loved my chair so much that I hunted down 2 reconditioned ones for my computer room at home. Great investment, should last me many years. Long gaming sessions don't beat ya down either. The fact that I'm able to dial-in my armrest height really helps also, as far as getting good angles with my wrists to keyboard/mouse.
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 11:47:28
April 24 2012 11:45 GMT
#30
On April 24 2012 19:44 pique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 19:27 haduken wrote:
There are things in life where you want to spend the right amount, not the cheapest amount.

Would you buy a shitty car that cost you 5000 but you need to spend another 10K in 5 years to repair it or would you spend 10K and get a recent year car that cost you $500 dollars to maintain in 5 years?


I take it you own an Ergohuman chair then? If so, can you shed some insight on things to consider before I commit? Like, is it essentially one size fits all with the adjustments and such? I'm looking at a low-back, no headrest chair on Ebay. I feel like i wont really be leaning to an extent where I'd use the headrest much. Thoughts?



I don't own one but I used to sit in one at my old work size is one size, they don't come like the Aeons where there are 3 different versions of the same chair. The standard height, width adjustment are all there. I used a lump bar with it but that's just me. Better check out the videos on their site to get a fair idea of what you after or better try it out at a retailer.

Never used a head rest, I sat in a V1 low back.

To be honest I wasn't completely satisfied with it which is why I'm saving up to get a Aeon or Mirra, it just wasn't right for me I dunno, I didn't hate it and certainly it's an improvement over the crap chairs I have at home.
Rillanon.au
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
April 24 2012 17:05 GMT
#31
Cheap chairs are usually just two planks of plywood that have been upholstered.

They suck and if you spend too much time in them you will get a pinched sciatic nerve eventually.

10 years out of a chair is an enormous rip off but I am guessing that in general those chairs will probably last 40 years so $800 for one is sensible. If you cant afford that even though you sit on it for 8 to 12 hours a day then you need to get out and make that money happen instead. Otherwise you will have wrist and back problems down the road.

Humans spend 1/3rd of their entire life asleep. Bed is important.
If you are like me you spend an additional 1/3rd to a half sitting down. Chair is important.

Its not really an option, you NEED these items otherwise you will definitely have health problems down the line.
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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
April 24 2012 17:39 GMT
#32
I'm surprised no one's mentioned it, but you should look around for a office oriented chair or furniture store around where you live to see if they have a transient space of used stock. I was able to get a decent Steelcase chair for $200 at a local store because it was "used" (by used they meant maybe a week or so) and came from offices around town.
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
April 25 2012 15:11 GMT
#33
On April 25 2012 02:39 wo1fwood wrote:
I'm surprised no one's mentioned it, but you should look around for a office oriented chair or furniture store around where you live to see if they have a transient space of used stock. I was able to get a decent Steelcase chair for $200 at a local store because it was "used" (by used they meant maybe a week or so) and came from offices around town.


Already tried that but unfortunately the merchants in my city are smart. If they have some thing like steelcase or herman miller they put a huge mark up on it even if it's second hand, the difference doesn't justify not buying it new.

The offices in my town are also very conservative, very rarely do they outfit with high quality chairs. Plenty of replica though but if I'm paying $500+ I will be damn sure it come with a decent warranty.
Rillanon.au
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
April 25 2012 16:09 GMT
#34
I was close to getting a Markus at ikea, But decided against it because no armrests. Considering getting a dxracer because they seem to have a good build. However, I'm not sure if quality is any good. The price is comparable to that of some ergo office chairs at least.
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SpyNinja
Profile Joined December 2011
United States78 Posts
April 25 2012 23:03 GMT
#35
get one of those chairs in the gaming houses
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 23:17:06
April 25 2012 23:11 GMT
#36
i need a chair that has a good midd-back support, any suggestions?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 25 2012 23:27 GMT
#37
Steelcase Leap? >.>
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
April 25 2012 23:30 GMT
#38
On April 26 2012 08:27 skyR wrote:
Steelcase Leap? >.>


what about the aeron chair? heard alot of good things about it
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 25 2012 23:31 GMT
#39
The Herman Miller Aeron is good as well.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
April 25 2012 23:32 GMT
#40
For midd-back I like to use a lump bar but generally I've find it's to do with posture rather than the chair, as long as you get some thing with proper recliner and support around that section you should be okay.

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2008/07/investing-in-a-quality-programming-chair.html

^ This post say it better than I ever can on why you should spend money on a good chair.
Rillanon.au
AzureHath
Profile Joined October 2011
Bulgaria154 Posts
April 25 2012 23:33 GMT
#41
Ergonomics is everything when it comes to a pc chair, make sure armrest is perfect, I recommend ergohuman/dxracers
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JitnikoVi
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation396 Posts
April 26 2012 00:28 GMT
#42
damn i never knew chairs could be this exciting... or (dare i say it) cool
In theory yes, but theoretically, no.
Feteru
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5 Posts
April 26 2012 01:55 GMT
#43
Does anyone know what chair Dragon uses? It looks super comfortable. It's green, and shaped weirdly ergonomically
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 26 2012 02:09 GMT
#44
who is dragon? do you have a picture?
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
April 26 2012 02:22 GMT
#45
The same dragon that streams?
Rillanon.au
Defury
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany206 Posts
April 27 2012 04:30 GMT
#46
I was looking at getting a DX racer as it's the only thing I can afford (realistically my budget is 200 but I doubt I will find anything decent in that range). Are they good quality?
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
April 27 2012 09:08 GMT
#47
Probably a waste of money.
Rillanon.au
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
April 27 2012 10:02 GMT
#48
Someone was saying the chairs they use at many Korean PC bangs are crazy comfortable. They are like low and soft so you can practically lay down or something.

I dunno anyone have any idea? Like the one chair that kid had a coma in because he played too much LoL and died from lack of movement.

I want that, I want coma chair.
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EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
April 27 2012 10:11 GMT
#49
I own a coma chair, but its from 4-5 years ago and the layers of cloth have been shred off it. I got it from a flea market.
Hoesa
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands75 Posts
April 27 2012 10:13 GMT
#50
I own a dxracer (the ones they have at Homestory cup) and i love it !
I would recoomend them. price was 200 euros for mine.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 10:45:44
April 27 2012 10:41 GMT
#51
On April 27 2012 19:11 EdenPLusDucky wrote:
I own a coma chair, but its from 4-5 years ago and the layers of cloth have been shred off it. I got it from a flea market.


Link that shit. Find it somehow. Or just give me a name.
twitch.tv/medrea
Defury
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany206 Posts
April 27 2012 14:00 GMT
#52
On April 27 2012 19:13 Hoesa wrote:
I own a dxracer (the ones they have at Homestory cup) and i love it !
I would recoomend them. price was 200 euros for mine.


How long have you had it for? My biggest concern would be longevity.
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
April 27 2012 14:15 GMT
#53
A chair like this allows you to squeeze more hours into gaming.

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FlashDave.999 aka Star
Fetch1
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands12 Posts
April 27 2012 15:53 GMT
#54
I bought my DX racer here:
http://www.chique-meubels.nl/contents/nl/d44.html
The seller was a polish dude that road back and forth to the factory in Poland with a shit load of chairs.
Got the F03 model for 180 euro's, he raised the price to 196 tough, but its still a good deal.
But i think he only sell's within The Netherlands.
I think Need For Seat shippes all around europe tough.
http://www.needforseat.de/shop/stuehle/dxracer-charger.php
But it will cost you 260, but thats still with in your budget.
And you will be supporting E-sports because these guy's sponsored HomeStory cup IV.
The chair is really comfy and i am very happy that i bought one.
Good luck looking for a chair
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
April 27 2012 16:21 GMT
#55
People who talk shit about Ikea chairs don't know what they're talking about, I have the Markus myself and am very satisfied, so is my friend who owns one even longer than I do. =)
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Outsited
Profile Joined April 2011
United States189 Posts
April 27 2012 16:29 GMT
#56
this is the exact chair i got i love it

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5086458&Sku=B136-1064
Something on your mind ?
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 19:06:22
April 27 2012 18:57 GMT
#57
Whatever you get, you should have chair tilt (forward/backward), backrest angle adjust (forward/backward), chair height adjust, and if you want armrests: adjustable armrest height.


Also, a good alternative to some fancy ergonomic chair is using a kneeling chair.
(http://www.ergonomickneelingchairs.org/store)
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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
April 27 2012 19:33 GMT
#58
On April 27 2012 18:08 haduken wrote:
Probably a waste of money.



Lolwut?

If you spend any appreciable amount of time in a chair, it should fit you ergonomically and not cause pain/cramping/etc.

It's very important.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 19:43:09
April 27 2012 19:35 GMT
#59
On April 28 2012 04:33 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 18:08 haduken wrote:
Probably a waste of money.



Lolwut?

If you spend any appreciable amount of time in a chair, it should fit you ergonomically and not cause pain/cramping/etc.

It's very important.


He was referring to the DXRacer when he said that... he already knows that a chair is important if you bothered to read the thread.
EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 21:19:00
April 27 2012 21:18 GMT
#60
On April 27 2012 19:41 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 19:11 EdenPLusDucky wrote:
I own a coma chair, but its from 4-5 years ago and the layers of cloth have been shred off it. I got it from a flea market.


Link that shit. Find it somehow. Or just give me a name.


I have no clue what its called, I got it from a flea market wrapped in plastic and put in a box that was used for a washing machine.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
April 27 2012 21:22 GMT
#61
Damn, not even a name on it. That stinks.
twitch.tv/medrea
AeroGear
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada652 Posts
April 27 2012 21:59 GMT
#62
Own a markus chair from Ikea as well. Pretty satisfied altough I guess armrest could be plushier? I guess i'm lucky to be the right upper body height for my arms to rest in a comfortable position. It was really cheap though (like 150$ can.) so I prefered it to those 500-1K chairs (which i might get eventually?) My gaming sessions are way more sparse and shorter than before, with work and all :S so it suits my needs currently.
Driven by hate, fueled by rage
gEzUS
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada371 Posts
April 27 2012 22:36 GMT
#63
A few years ago I spent a few months and tried probably close to 100 chairs finding the right one.
You do not have to spend 1k on a great chair. I found alot of $200.00 chairs perfectly comfortable. I ended up spending about 800, but it was based more on the materials and style, rather than comfort and durability.

Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 23:54:30
April 27 2012 23:54 GMT
#64
On April 28 2012 00:53 Fetch1 wrote:
I bought my DX racer here:
http://www.chique-meubels.nl/contents/nl/d44.html
The seller was a polish dude that road back and forth to the factory in Poland with a shit load of chairs.
Got the F03 model for 180 euro's, he raised the price to 196 tough, but its still a good deal.
But i think he only sell's within The Netherlands.
I think Need For Seat shippes all around europe tough.
http://www.needforseat.de/shop/stuehle/dxracer-charger.php
But it will cost you 260, but thats still with in your budget.
And you will be supporting E-sports because these guy's sponsored HomeStory cup IV.
The chair is really comfy and i am very happy that i bought one.
Good luck looking for a chair


Do you know anyone that ships to Canada? Been trying to find a decent DX racer dealer for a while but I am awful at internet, Looking for a smooth sport RS.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 28 2012 00:08 GMT
#65
DX Racer is like a EU / Asia chair... after duties, markup, and shipping - I highly doubt it would be worth it over a Herman Miller or Steelcase.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
April 28 2012 00:53 GMT
#66
On April 28 2012 09:08 skyR wrote:
DX Racer is like a EU / Asia chair... after duties, markup, and shipping - I highly doubt it would be worth it over a Herman Miller or Steelcase.


Yea you're probably right, which sucks because I can't afford those either. Bargain bin chair here I come, I mean I have about 400$ to spend and kind of want a high back but the only steelcase I can afford is really http://store.steelcase.com/brochures/crew/
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 28 2012 01:15 GMT
#67
Just save and wait for a sale if you're not willing to buy used off craigslist / kijiji / redflag.

If you really want the DX Racer and think it's worth it, you can pay for a forwarding service and buy it off Amazon.
Fetch1
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands12 Posts
April 28 2012 18:36 GMT
#68
On April 28 2012 08:54 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 00:53 Fetch1 wrote:
I bought my DX racer here:
http://www.chique-meubels.nl/contents/nl/d44.html
The seller was a polish dude that road back and forth to the factory in Poland with a shit load of chairs.
Got the F03 model for 180 euro's, he raised the price to 196 tough, but its still a good deal.
But i think he only sell's within The Netherlands.
I think Need For Seat shippes all around europe tough.
http://www.needforseat.de/shop/stuehle/dxracer-charger.php
But it will cost you 260, but thats still with in your budget.
And you will be supporting E-sports because these guy's sponsored HomeStory cup IV.
The chair is really comfy and i am very happy that i bought one.
Good luck looking for a chair


Do you know anyone that ships to Canada? Been trying to find a decent DX racer dealer for a while but I am awful at internet, Looking for a smooth sport RS.


No sorry, I live in the Netherlands so i have no idea who ships to Canada. You can try need for seat but I am afraid you will have to pay a shitload of sending costs.
There are allot of DX racer chairs on sites like Amazone...
Good luck!
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
June 03 2012 02:29 GMT
#69
alright i need some help, ive been trying to find a chair for a while now but the only chairs that the stores around here have are either cheap in quality or they dont meet my requirements

im looking for a small chair w/ no arm rests(chairs w/ removable arm rests work too) because my desk is quite low and i like to slide underneath it without having my knee hit my table or anything, arm rests get in the way because theyre too high up. so anything thats high in height is out of the question (my old chair had a 29cm difference between the bottom of the seat to the floor)

any recommendations?
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
VPFaith
Profile Joined April 2011
United States261 Posts
June 03 2012 06:17 GMT
#70
$10 at Yard Sale. :D
Never Give Up
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
June 03 2012 08:23 GMT
#71
On April 23 2012 23:01 haduken wrote:
Not exactly your price range but hot damn!

[image loading]


Dude...this is almost what my wife picked out for me for father's day. It is not here yet to compare though. Epic. =)
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
June 03 2012 10:07 GMT
#72
On April 23 2012 23:01 haduken wrote:
Not exactly your price range but hot damn!

[image loading]


My workplace has these and they are really comfortable.
NEEDforSEATusa
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1 Post
December 19 2012 00:21 GMT
#73
--- Nuked ---
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 17 2013 20:31 GMT
#74
Aeron are around 630$ with free shipping. I'm getting that for my next chair. Replacing my 3rd ikea chair rofl.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 20:45:08
January 17 2013 20:44 GMT
#75
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



http://www.amazon.com/Headrest-Herman-Miller-Aeron-Chair/dp/B005L9ATK6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1345047225&sr=8-2&keywords=aeron headrest

Theres this headrest for aeron too, pretty expensive but I would definitely buy it if I were to get miller.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 17 2013 20:55 GMT
#76
Yeah good idea. Do you know how long the warranty are on the aeron chairs? Is it 10 years?
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 21:00:53
January 17 2013 20:57 GMT
#77
On January 18 2013 05:55 KAB00000000M wrote:
Yeah good idea. Do you know how long the warranty are on the aeron chairs? Is it 10 years?

That's about right.

I've had mine for about 8 months now, and usually other cheap chairs would start to be uncomfortable (I spend probably 10-12 hours a day in my chairs), but the Aeron hasn't even changed. The only complaint I have is the arm rests pivot and that's really annoying, but you can just put paper or whatever inside the slots so they don't pivot .
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 17 2013 21:27 GMT
#78
On January 18 2013 05:57 Ercster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 05:55 KAB00000000M wrote:
Yeah good idea. Do you know how long the warranty are on the aeron chairs? Is it 10 years?

That's about right.

I've had mine for about 8 months now, and usually other cheap chairs would start to be uncomfortable (I spend probably 10-12 hours a day in my chairs), but the Aeron hasn't even changed. The only complaint I have is the arm rests pivot and that's really annoying, but you can just put paper or whatever inside the slots so they don't pivot .


Which version did you get? The highly adjustable?
I am thinking of getting one.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
January 17 2013 21:47 GMT
#79
I dunno if this is a conspiracy or something, but I simply chuckle at this. I've been gaming, and spent hours everyday on the computer for the last 7 years, in my ikea chair from the dining room, and damn its comfortable... I feel like chairs are a waste of money unless you're sitting on a wooden stool.

Much more important to just have a chair that's simply built for your body-type.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 17 2013 22:11 GMT
#80
Chairs like the Herman Miller Aeron and Steelcase Leap can be adjusted to suit your body-type. Most (all) of the chairs from Ikea have very limited adjustments or none at all. Not to mention these companies specialize in office equipment and stand behind their products unlike Ikea.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 17 2013 22:17 GMT
#81
On January 18 2013 06:47 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I dunno if this is a conspiracy or something, but I simply chuckle at this. I've been gaming, and spent hours everyday on the computer for the last 7 years, in my ikea chair from the dining room, and damn its comfortable... I feel like chairs are a waste of money unless you're sitting on a wooden stool.

Much more important to just have a chair that's simply built for your body-type.

Well you can spend 100-200 dollar on a great chair for you specifically while spending countless hours going to various stores to test and fine one or you can spend 300+ on a chair that you can adjust everything to fit you. And then there is durability questions, cushions. Personally I just spend about 100 on a chair every 3-4 years usually though a sale or something on a half decent chair that I found fits me. My latest one I got from office max for 60 bucks awhile back
http://www.officemax.com/office-furniture/chairs/product-prod2480014
it's perfectly suited for me; do I think it will last probably not but I don't rough shit up so al my stuff tends to last for awhile. And for 60 bucks I wouldn't mind if it broke in 3.
scroojr
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada14 Posts
January 17 2013 22:21 GMT
#82
On April 23 2012 23:44 Crazyseal wrote:
I recently bought a new chair and it would 100% recommend it to anybody. It has great height for your head to rest, great lower back support so you can sit for a while without any discomfort, very adjustable in height depending on how tall you are. Also it has a great mesh back to allow for a bit of breathing so you dont get all sweaty and stuck to the back.

Its £125 check it out if you have an Ikea nearby:

http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/20103101/


This is a great chair that I use. I've had mine for nearly two years and it's sturdy, adjustable, comfortable... +1 to this
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 22:29:19
January 17 2013 22:25 GMT
#83
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This is the one I got around christmas, rh logic400 with all the features from factory outlet at 700€ (about 1400€ new with this finnish, amazing deal :D). I have always had back problems but this kinda seems to fix them, its absolutely dream to sit on and it has this "active sitting" thing on it its not locked to still position as it kinda rocks back and fort and you adjust it to your weight, it really helps with the posture and does miracles to my back :D

Funny thing, my mom has the older model logic4, she has had it for over 10years (the same chair!) and it still feels like a new one nothing gotten loose or makes any funny noises or anything. Amazing chairs.



e. expensive? in 10 years I have used over 1000€ to shitty ikea/whatever cheap atk chairs that need to be replaced often and dont even give proper support for posture!
-Switch-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada506 Posts
January 17 2013 22:45 GMT
#84
I need a new chair as well. mine has started to rip apart haha. i will be reading this thread closely =D
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 18 2013 01:38 GMT
#85
I spend most of my time at my desk. Mainly because I am a student and have to spend +5 hours every single day - because I am studying medicine. But also because my hobby is playing starcraft. I can't believe I have fallen for cheap "ikea" chairs so many times. (3 chairs now for my 3rd year at university)

I really should just man up and get an Aeron chair. A full mesh would be perfect.

Invest money in things you spend time on. As for a good bed. And a good chair. (Good pc already covered lol)
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 18 2013 15:16 GMT
#86
I have to add.
I don't see why DXRacer chairs should be good for you. They are completely straight. With no curves. All that is different is that they got a back tilt added. Am I right?
ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
January 18 2013 15:52 GMT
#87
If money is no object, check out ErgoQuest:

http://www.ergoquest.com/

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“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
January 18 2013 17:06 GMT
#88
Aeron
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 18 2013 19:50 GMT
#89
On January 19 2013 00:16 KAB00000000M wrote:
I have to add.
I don't see why DXRacer chairs should be good for you. They are completely straight. With no curves. All that is different is that they got a back tilt added. Am I right?


Well they do give you a pillow for lumbar support... really cheap if you ask me >.>

Aeron has tilt fyi. Any good chair will have tilt.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 18 2013 19:54 GMT
#90
On January 19 2013 04:50 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 00:16 KAB00000000M wrote:
I have to add.
I don't see why DXRacer chairs should be good for you. They are completely straight. With no curves. All that is different is that they got a back tilt added. Am I right?


Well they do give you a pillow for lumbar support... really cheap if you ask me >.>

Aeron has tilt fyi. Any good chair will have tilt.


Yeah I wrote that wrong. I meant - all the DXRacer has compared to a regular ikea chair. Is a function to tilt the back separately.

I know the Aeron has tilt and a lot of more stuff. I just wanted to point out that I do not see why the DXRacer chair should be considered a good chair.
SC_RainbowDash
Profile Joined October 2011
Denmark33 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 20:15:33
January 18 2013 20:12 GMT
#91
On January 19 2013 04:54 KAB00000000M wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 04:50 skyR wrote:
On January 19 2013 00:16 KAB00000000M wrote:
I have to add.
I don't see why DXRacer chairs should be good for you. They are completely straight. With no curves. All that is different is that they got a back tilt added. Am I right?


Well they do give you a pillow for lumbar support... really cheap if you ask me >.>

Aeron has tilt fyi. Any good chair will have tilt.


Yeah I wrote that wrong. I meant - all the DXRacer has compared to a regular ikea chair. Is a function to tilt the back separately.

I know the Aeron has tilt and a lot of more stuff. I just wanted to point out that I do not see why the DXRacer chair should be considered a good chair.



Im recently bought a DXRacer, and im gonna give a link to a page, http://www.needforseat.de/eu_english/dxracer/needforseat-dxracer-vs-noname/index.html this pretty much shows the dxracer vs a ikea chair, and all the cheaper chairs i have had, had these wooden boards in seat and back, which is rather uncomfy, whereas the dxracer is made of comfy soft foam. you seat really comfortable in it, and the armrest on most of the chairs have around 8 different heights settings, so its very comfortable, can definitly recommend then

im not much of a social party person, ill be the first to admit that lol. That also means i spend alot of time infront of a pc, talking 8hours streaks, and i can deff feel a difference about the wood chairs, and the dxracer, im not saying theres not better chairs. At my work im a technical designer apprentice, which means i also sit infront of a pc all day, but the chairs there costs around 1.000 USD. and tbh i cant really feel much difference.
A bacon a day keeps the pigs away
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 20:48:53
January 18 2013 20:39 GMT
#92
I wish more people could share us their experiences with the Aeron chairs!
I am so close to ordering! :D
plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
January 19 2013 12:07 GMT
#93
Sit on a wooden chair. Alter your seating position every 10 minutes. never get back problems...ever. Or get a needforseat Dx racer :D
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 19 2013 15:49 GMT
#94
Or get an AERON! :D
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 18:34:15
January 19 2013 16:28 GMT
#95
On January 20 2013 00:49 KAB00000000M wrote:
Or get an AERON! :D

I have to say that at my old job (911 dispatcher - 12h shifts in the same chair) we had a few different types of chairs and the AERON was preferred by a majority of the employees. (Ambi and some sort of very adjustable high back executive chair were the other choices).

However, for the past 3 years I've just been using a cheap ikea chair (this but without the pattern). Personally I don't like arm rests or the ability to tilt - if I'm using the keyboard/mouse - and I've never had any aches or pains.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 20 2013 16:32 GMT
#96
Anyone have any tips for keeping good posture?
I was at the masseuse today. And he(lol) told me that I have turtle neck. He explained it as I have my back hunched. Not that my back is hunched. But he said he could see I spent hours studying with my neck and back bent towards the desk.

I have done this for a very long time. And I actually think it is difficult to keep my posture in the correct way now even for 1 hour.

Anyone have the same experience with some solutions?

(I am considering getting an aeron to help aid the problem)
EuSpex
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany73 Posts
January 20 2013 17:19 GMT
#97
On January 21 2013 01:32 KAB00000000M wrote:
Anyone have any tips for keeping good posture?
I was at the masseuse today. And he(lol) told me that I have turtle neck. He explained it as I have my back hunched. Not that my back is hunched. But he said he could see I spent hours studying with my neck and back bent towards the desk.

I have done this for a very long time. And I actually think it is difficult to keep my posture in the correct way now even for 1 hour.

Anyone have the same experience with some solutions?

(I am considering getting an aeron to help aid the problem)


You cannot fix this problem with buying a chair. I got the same problem and went to a sports doctor and he told me that without solid torso muscles you cannot sit straight ever. So I would recommend to do fitness instead of buying a chair even if its not the most convenient solution but in the long run it pays back.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 20 2013 18:30 GMT
#98
On January 21 2013 02:19 EuSpex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 01:32 KAB00000000M wrote:
Anyone have any tips for keeping good posture?
I was at the masseuse today. And he(lol) told me that I have turtle neck. He explained it as I have my back hunched. Not that my back is hunched. But he said he could see I spent hours studying with my neck and back bent towards the desk.

I have done this for a very long time. And I actually think it is difficult to keep my posture in the correct way now even for 1 hour.

Anyone have the same experience with some solutions?

(I am considering getting an aeron to help aid the problem)


You cannot fix this problem with buying a chair. I got the same problem and went to a sports doctor and he told me that without solid torso muscles you cannot sit straight ever. So I would recommend to do fitness instead of buying a chair even if its not the most convenient solution but in the long run it pays back.


Ok Thanks.
I go swimming 3 times per week. I thought that was enough :o
Tenshix
Profile Joined January 2013
United States169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 22:47:40
January 20 2013 22:46 GMT
#99
Hey guys, I need a new chair. I have minor scoliosis (or at least my doctor said it wasn't something to worry much about) and everyday I have back pain. I sit at school for 7 hours and an extra 5-6 hours playing games at home (so 12-13 hours per day). I'm looking for something that is ergonomic and comfortable and that I can sit in for long periods of time without experiencing much back pain. I've looked through this thread but I'm not really sure about some of them.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 22:56:19
January 20 2013 22:55 GMT
#100
Scoliosis. I would suggest (as EuSpex said above) working out. EuSpex said this: "You cannot fix this problem with buying a chair. I got the same problem and went to a sports doctor and he told me that without solid torso muscles you cannot sit straight ever. So I would recommend to do fitness instead of buying a chair even if its not the most convenient solution but in the long run it pays back." And practice sitting with right posture.
Tenshix
Profile Joined January 2013
United States169 Posts
January 20 2013 23:12 GMT
#101
On January 21 2013 07:55 KAB00000000M wrote:
Scoliosis. I would suggest (as EuSpex said above) working out. EuSpex said this: "You cannot fix this problem with buying a chair. I got the same problem and went to a sports doctor and he told me that without solid torso muscles you cannot sit straight ever. So I would recommend to do fitness instead of buying a chair even if its not the most convenient solution but in the long run it pays back." And practice sitting with right posture.


I know, but still I've had my current chair for years and I really don't like it anymore. Obviously exercising will help my back (and I was going to say that in my post) but I'd really like a comfortable chair as well.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 20 2013 23:25 GMT
#102
On January 21 2013 08:12 Tenshix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 07:55 KAB00000000M wrote:
Scoliosis. I would suggest (as EuSpex said above) working out. EuSpex said this: "You cannot fix this problem with buying a chair. I got the same problem and went to a sports doctor and he told me that without solid torso muscles you cannot sit straight ever. So I would recommend to do fitness instead of buying a chair even if its not the most convenient solution but in the long run it pays back." And practice sitting with right posture.


I know, but still I've had my current chair for years and I really don't like it anymore. Obviously exercising will help my back (and I was going to say that in my post) but I'd really like a comfortable chair as well.


Are you sure it is the chair that makes your seat uncomfortable?
If so. Read through the thread. There are a lot of good suggestions.

I don't have scoliosis. But I got similar problem.
I'm going to visit the gym once a week to work my core muscles. In addition I go swimming 3 times a week.

After I try this. If I still got problems. I will order a Hermanmiller - Aeron.
m1rk3
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada412 Posts
January 20 2013 23:41 GMT
#103
I have used a 20 dollar walmart chair from a 100 dollar executive chair. I now sit on an old dining room table chair made out of wood.
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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 21 2013 16:12 GMT
#104
On January 21 2013 08:41 m1rk3 wrote:
I have used a 20 dollar walmart chair from a 100 dollar executive chair. I now sit on an old dining room table chair made out of wood.


Really? Although I know that hard surfaces force you to use your muscles to keep good posture. But wood table chair sounds painful.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 26 2013 02:36 GMT
#105
Have anyone tried the Ergohuman chairs in comparison with the Aeron chair? It seems good by the looks of it. And the description seems good. I think I have come down to choosing either Aeron or an Ergohuman-ME7ERG.
(ME7ERG is a V1)
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 26 2013 04:14 GMT
#106
Are you sure you're not just reluctant to consider other chairs because of the Aeron's popularity (which is thanks to its age)? The biggest problem with Aeron is that you have to pick the correct size, otherwise the chair is going to sort of suck. Plus it's also nearly twice as expensive as the Ergohuman you are now considering.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
January 26 2013 08:29 GMT
#107
Get a Haworth Zody second-hand. People say it's better than Aerons for less money. It was certainly one of the best 200 dollars I spent (I got a clean used one)
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kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
January 26 2013 09:57 GMT
#108
You guys sure have high standards. I've been sittin' on a wooden cajon for the past couple of years.
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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 14:02:11
January 26 2013 14:01 GMT
#109
I have had bad chairs for a long time. And I want to give myself a good comfy chair. I don't have high standards trust me

I am leaning more towards the Ergohuman though. They are cheaper.
And I am just considering Aeron because some of my friends got it.

Edit: I didn't know you had to buy it in different sizes. That being said. I might just go for the Ergohuman. I'm going to check out the zody as was mentioned above.
Deadlifter
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway68 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 14:10:51
January 26 2013 14:10 GMT
#110
I've gotten this bad boy:

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The swopper.


Extremely worthy investment.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
January 26 2013 15:34 GMT
#111
Watched that ergohuman video on their page and tbh that looks pretty flimsy chair.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 26 2013 15:41 GMT
#112
On January 27 2013 00:34 FinBenton wrote:
Watched that ergohuman video on their page and tbh that looks pretty flimsy chair.


Please elaborate. If you have time.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 08:31:16
February 17 2013 08:21 GMT
#113
im looking for a good chair that doesnt have any armrests, any suggestions? preferably something that has good lower back/lumbar support
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Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 14:36:41
February 17 2013 14:35 GMT
#114
I'm in the UK also looking for a good chair. I'm around 6'2" and I'm looking for something no more than say £200-£250 GBP. Any ideas? My current chair is this and I've had it for a while and it is just no longer comfortable, plus I could do with something that could adjust a little higher if possible:

http://www.viking-direct.co.uk/a/pb/Malaga-Leather-Faced-Executive-Office-Chair-in-Black/id=3261822/
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
February 17 2013 18:29 GMT
#115
On January 22 2013 01:12 llIH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 08:41 m1rk3 wrote:
I have used a 20 dollar walmart chair from a 100 dollar executive chair. I now sit on an old dining room table chair made out of wood.


Really? Although I know that hard surfaces force you to use your muscles to keep good posture. But wood table chair sounds painful.
That's pretty bad for you if you sit for long periods you'll get visible and painful sores.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 19:55:12
February 17 2013 19:52 GMT
#116
I think Ergohuman is a good choice. You can regulate the height of the lumbar support. And you can get it with a neck rest. I think neck(cervical) posture is something people don't think that much about. It seems that people focus more on lumbar support - which is also important don't get me wrong!

I think good padding is important as well. Sitting on a hard chair can hurt after long periods of gaming/studying.

"Slumping" or "Slouching" - Lead to Dowager's Hump. Basically - Your spinous processes of your cervical vertebrae are crushed towards the ligament that runs over them - causing friction. Your body will produce more fatty tissue there to support this friction or grinding - leading to what is called "Dowager's Hump".

Slouching also contributes to double chin. (Have you noticed a lot of students and gamers have this - even when they are skinny?) The anterior muscles and skin gets stretched because of slouching - and the skin's stretch makes more room between. The body fills this area with adipose/fat tissue = Double chin.

Slouching / Slumping = Bending your neck forward. Instead of having it vertical relative to your thoracic vertebrae.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
February 17 2013 20:06 GMT
#117
I'm not sure what chairs that are considered ergonomic are within my price range and available in the UK. Any suggested brands/sites/models?
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 17 2013 22:27 GMT
#118
On February 18 2013 05:06 Mackem wrote:
I'm not sure what chairs that are considered ergonomic are within my price range and available in the UK. Any suggested brands/sites/models?


As I said. I think Ergohuman might be just within your budget. They are cheaper than Aeron. I would look up on them if I were you! Tell me if they are too expensive. There are several models that cost different.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
February 17 2013 22:54 GMT
#119
All of the Ergohuman chairs I see are £300-£400+
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 17 2013 23:50 GMT
#120
On February 18 2013 07:54 Mackem wrote:
All of the Ergohuman chairs I see are £300-£400+


I will check on them and get back to you
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 17 2013 23:54 GMT
#121
You are right. They are more than I thought. (Not that much more though!)

This one: http://ergohuman.com/products/Ergohuman-Chair-ME7ERG-%2d-High-Back-with-Headrest-and-Mesh.html

637 $. If you can not pay that much. Get something cheaper obviously. But I can assure you that you will get a new chair in a year or two. Most people end up getting a new chair every year. This chair will last for 6+.

You might want to look at DX-Racer chairs. They have good padding. make sure you get lumbar support + headrest. As I recommend. Up to you though.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 00:09:12
February 18 2013 00:03 GMT
#122
Thank you

EDIT: That's US prices though and a US site, I'm in the UK.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 18 2013 00:21 GMT
#123
On February 18 2013 09:03 Mackem wrote:
Thank you

EDIT: That's US prices though and a US site, I'm in the UK.


Oh. Sorry about that. It might be even more expensive in that case.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
February 18 2013 00:30 GMT
#124
Yeah, I'm struggling to find anything really. You know when you have the money to buy something but not quite sure if you want to spend that amount of money on it? That's how I feel. At the minute, I could easily drop 300-400 GBP (British Pounds) on a chair but not quite sure if I want to. I'd probably prefer to stay below 300 to be honest.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 18 2013 00:42 GMT
#125
For £200, you're not going to get much besides some basic Ikea or Staples / Office Depot (or whatever the EU equivalent is) chair.

Not sure how it's hard to justify spending money on a chair when you probably buy a smartphone and decent PC every 5 years or whatever...
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
February 18 2013 01:15 GMT
#126
I've had the same phone since 2007 and only upgraded my PC late 2011 after I used a dual core AMD rig from 2004-2011. Anyway, I just meant I didn't want to spend £500-£600 on a chair. What's the cheapest ergonomic chair I can get that will last me a while?
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 01:28:45
February 18 2013 01:28 GMT
#127
What I have learned from experience. Spend money on the things you spend time on. If you study and or play games a lot. Spend money on a good ergonomic chair. If you like to sleep for many hours. Spend a lot on a good bed.
Celeritas
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia52 Posts
February 18 2013 01:53 GMT
#128
Today I ordered the Ergohuman V1 chair for AU$520. Hopefully it'll arrive in a few days. I'll post my impressions of it once it is delivered. After looking around, it definitely seemed like the best value-for-money ergonomic chair available in Australia.
MisterJef
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada62 Posts
February 18 2013 01:54 GMT
#129
I'm getting myself a DXRacer for my bday :D US Store opens soon!
Dat Marine Split
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 18 2013 01:55 GMT
#130
Probably a DXRacer as already mentioned. Don't really have to put much thought into cheap chairs, you can just go to Ikea or any local furniture store and try out the chairs. Buy the one that feels comfortable, buy another in ten years.

You realize my point still stands regardless of how much money you spend on a computer every x years? Any computer investment is going to be worse than a furniture investment.

You'd still be using a Herman Miller Aeron that was purchased in 1995 for $1500. Despite its age, it's still very comfortable and functional. Over the span of twenty years, you'd have gone through three PCs on a seven year purchase cycle, likely totaling to more than $2500 - a lot more if you are unlucky and need to replace dead parts.

Let's not forget that the support you get from Steelcase and Herman Miller is worlds apart from Ikea or whatever.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
February 18 2013 02:26 GMT
#131
Holy Christ, that Ergohuman chair looks amazing..
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 18 2013 02:39 GMT
#132
On February 18 2013 10:53 Celeritas wrote:
Today I ordered the Ergohuman V1 chair for AU$520. Hopefully it'll arrive in a few days. I'll post my impressions of it once it is delivered. After looking around, it definitely seemed like the best value-for-money ergonomic chair available in Australia.


Which type of V1 did you get?
Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
February 18 2013 02:40 GMT
#133
I can't recommend buying an IKEA chair. I bought an IKEA Markus Swivel chair that lasted me about a year. It seemed good at first, but eventually I started to have a lot of pain on my ass / coccyx. Then, to compensate, I started to sit in weird ways and developed back pain. I went back to my original, old, leather chair that I used for 8-9 years or so and my back feels so much better. The build quality on the Markus is also very poor. Everything seems to loosen up on it and you constantly have to tighten the screws on everything.

I think, with shipping, I (sadly) spent about $200 on this chair that I will never use again. I'm thinking that if I buy a new chair it will be a high end one. When I take into account the fact that I spent $200 on a chair that lasted me one year, if I spend $1000 on a chair that lasts me 10 years or more, I'm spending much more cost efficiently.

For some people the Markus Swivel may be fine, it could just be my body type, and I understand that spending in the ballpark of $500 to $1,000 on a chair is simply out of some people's budgets. Without having tried any high end chairs, I can't really recommend them either, but if they're as good as some people say they are, it has to be worth the investment if you have the money to do it.
Celeritas
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia52 Posts
February 18 2013 03:01 GMT
#134
On February 18 2013 11:39 llIH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 10:53 Celeritas wrote:
Today I ordered the Ergohuman V1 chair for AU$520. Hopefully it'll arrive in a few days. I'll post my impressions of it once it is delivered. After looking around, it definitely seemed like the best value-for-money ergonomic chair available in Australia.


Which type of V1 did you get?

Not sure what types it comes in, but it's high-back with a headrest, and is all mesh (didn't opt for leather seat or back). If people are interested, I'll do a full review of the chair complete with images once it has arrived.

Here's a video outlining the adjustability (this convinced me to buy it actually).
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
February 18 2013 03:06 GMT
#135
That's the video I saw that now makes me want that chair. Are there any UK resellers/authorized dealers does anyone know?
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 03:08:57
February 18 2013 03:08 GMT
#136
On February 18 2013 12:01 Celeritas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 11:39 llIH wrote:
On February 18 2013 10:53 Celeritas wrote:
Today I ordered the Ergohuman V1 chair for AU$520. Hopefully it'll arrive in a few days. I'll post my impressions of it once it is delivered. After looking around, it definitely seemed like the best value-for-money ergonomic chair available in Australia.


Which type of V1 did you get?

Not sure what types it comes in, but it's high-back with a headrest, and is all mesh (didn't opt for leather seat or back). If people are interested, I'll do a full review of the chair complete with images once it has arrived.

Here's a video outlining the adjustability (this convinced me to buy it actually).
Show nested quote +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWkvgpPwhcI


This is the exact one I am going to purchase too. But I need to wait for my new apartment. I would love to see a review. Looking forward to that!
FA_ViPeR
Profile Joined June 2003
Germany187 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 18:48:09
February 18 2013 08:03 GMT
#137
I'm looking for a new chair too. My biggest problem is my height (1.96m or 6' 5", at about 95-100kg), and most chairs, even in the upper price range (lets say 500-600 euros), are apparently hard to get with "proper" height adjustment (or it might just not be documented that you can get higher gas springs, but for that kind of money they should advertise it).
Stuff like neck/headrest is basically useless for me too unless it's highly adjustable.
And then there is the warranty. Anything that somewhat fits my needs at about 600 euros usually comes with standard (2year?) warranty, which imo is way too little for that kind of money.

At the moment (with only internet research) I came to the conclusion that I probably need to drop about 1000 euros to really get what I want (high enough, high backrest with adjustable lumbar support, adjustable armrests preferably height and forward/backward, adjustable seat depth, "dynamic seating", possibly head/neckrest, 5+ years warranty).

My favorites at the moment are the "Kloeber Cato XL", customized at about 1000 euros, 5 year warranty
Kloeber Cato XL

and the Hag H05 at about 1100 euros, 10 year warranty
Hag H05

or possibly the Hag Futu, about 700 euros, 10 year warranty
Hag Futu

obviously all with higher gas spring. And also obviously they all are way above what I was originally willing to spend (400-500max).
So if anybody got some tips for me, I'd be very thankful!
As soon as I can get a day off of work I plan to make a tour to 4-5 office furniture vendors because thats probably the only way I can really check if a chair does what I want it to do, and if it is possible to get cheaper chairs with extra high gas springs...

To the models discussed here:

DXRacer: I looked closer at the DXRacer chairs, found a german forum where some people got them and they are very happy with them, that is if you are smaller than 1.90m (let's say 6'2' is the max for them) because the back rest is too short and possibly too narrow otherwise.
If you aren't that tall, they seem to be really good value for the price, possibly even the best in that price range. But remember, they are made for comfort, not ergonomics, which the seller himself pointed out in one post.

On the ikea marcus topic: We have those at work for about 1/2 year now. I don't like it too much, even though it is just barely high enough for me, the other adjusting options are too limited (i.e. lumbar support is way too low for me, pushes my butt forward instead of supporting my back, fixed armrests). Plus it is rather "slippery" imo. If at all possible moneywise I would get a dxracer instead.

Ergohuman: I found mixed reviews for those. Some are really satisfied, some (especially taller/heavier people) found them problematic, commenting on them as "rather flimsy" for the kind of money they cost, and sent them back because the 2 year warranty they got concerned them.
EDIT: skyr pointed out that Ergohuman lists a much better warranty on their own page. I only checked (online) retailers in Germany which all had 2 years listed. So please check specifically on the site where you are buying for the exact duration.

Other chairs possibly worth a look (I don't consider them because of seat height, otherwise they are highly recommended in reviews for about 500 euros):
Viasit Linea
Sedus Netwin
Dauphin Sim-o
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 18 2013 11:24 GMT
#138
Steelcase Leap or Herman Miller Aeron, out of your price range though. Just missed the semi annual Steelcase sale as well.

Ergohuman has lifetime warranty. Not sure where you got the two year warranty from...
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
February 18 2013 11:34 GMT
#139
On February 18 2013 09:30 Mackem wrote:
Yeah, I'm struggling to find anything really. You know when you have the money to buy something but not quite sure if you want to spend that amount of money on it? That's how I feel. At the minute, I could easily drop 300-400 GBP (British Pounds) on a chair but not quite sure if I want to. I'd probably prefer to stay below 300 to be honest.


from wat ive read the ikea markus seems to be a safe choice if ur not ready to shell out 600-700+ on a good ergo chair, all comes down to personal preference tho
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
TheNumberE
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada27 Posts
February 18 2013 11:57 GMT
#140
your gonna want a chair, with regards to health reasons, with a waterfall edge; adjustable arm rests and chair height, a back that suits the curvature of your spine and a place to rest your feet so they don't dangle.
another really cool alternative would be this nifty item
http://www.officechairadvice.com/images/assets/multi-balans-5-large.jpg
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 18 2013 12:02 GMT
#141
If you spend a lot of time on your computer or studying. Make sure you invest in an ergonomic chair. Or - make sure you have proper posture. The 4 curvatures (2 anterior - 2 posterior) are important to maintain. If not - you can develop several problems including humps and vertebrae fractures. Imagine when you are 50+ and your back is a living nightmare. Wouldn't you be willing to pay 1000 euros to get your back healthy again?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
February 18 2013 12:04 GMT
#142
On February 18 2013 20:57 TheNumberE wrote:
your gonna want a chair, with regards to health reasons, with a waterfall edge; adjustable arm rests and chair height, a back that suits the curvature of your spine and a place to rest your feet so they don't dangle.
another really cool alternative would be this nifty item
http://www.officechairadvice.com/images/assets/multi-balans-5-large.jpg


i would rather castrate myself
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 18 2013 16:31 GMT
#143
Do anyone know about how the padding is in the Ergohuman chairs? Particularly with the mesh one.
That is also important for me.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
February 18 2013 16:38 GMT
#144
On February 18 2013 11:40 Blackhawk13 wrote:
I can't recommend buying an IKEA chair. I bought an IKEA Markus Swivel chair that lasted me about a year. It seemed good at first, but eventually I started to have a lot of pain on my ass / coccyx. Then, to compensate, I started to sit in weird ways and developed back pain. I went back to my original, old, leather chair that I used for 8-9 years or so and my back feels so much better. The build quality on the Markus is also very poor. Everything seems to loosen up on it and you constantly have to tighten the screws on everything.

I think, with shipping, I (sadly) spent about $200 on this chair that I will never use again. I'm thinking that if I buy a new chair it will be a high end one. When I take into account the fact that I spent $200 on a chair that lasted me one year, if I spend $1000 on a chair that lasts me 10 years or more, I'm spending much more cost efficiently.

For some people the Markus Swivel may be fine, it could just be my body type, and I understand that spending in the ballpark of $500 to $1,000 on a chair is simply out of some people's budgets. Without having tried any high end chairs, I can't really recommend them either, but if they're as good as some people say they are, it has to be worth the investment if you have the money to do it.

My ikea markus was ok at first but it went bad under a year, would not recommend and it has like nothing to adjust..
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 18 2013 18:28 GMT
#145
On February 19 2013 01:38 FinBenton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 11:40 Blackhawk13 wrote:
I can't recommend buying an IKEA chair. I bought an IKEA Markus Swivel chair that lasted me about a year. It seemed good at first, but eventually I started to have a lot of pain on my ass / coccyx. Then, to compensate, I started to sit in weird ways and developed back pain. I went back to my original, old, leather chair that I used for 8-9 years or so and my back feels so much better. The build quality on the Markus is also very poor. Everything seems to loosen up on it and you constantly have to tighten the screws on everything.

I think, with shipping, I (sadly) spent about $200 on this chair that I will never use again. I'm thinking that if I buy a new chair it will be a high end one. When I take into account the fact that I spent $200 on a chair that lasted me one year, if I spend $1000 on a chair that lasts me 10 years or more, I'm spending much more cost efficiently.

For some people the Markus Swivel may be fine, it could just be my body type, and I understand that spending in the ballpark of $500 to $1,000 on a chair is simply out of some people's budgets. Without having tried any high end chairs, I can't really recommend them either, but if they're as good as some people say they are, it has to be worth the investment if you have the money to do it.

My ikea markus was ok at first but it went bad under a year, would not recommend and it has like nothing to adjust..


Exactly!
And you are probably going to get a new chair soon. Am I right? I think this is a good example of what happens to people buying Ikea chairs. The fact that you can't adjust anything is really annoying. It is easy to like them in the store.

I am talking to some people on youtube right now to see what they recommend. Currently I am aiming towards an Ergohuman V1 with Head and Lumbar rest/support in Mesh.
FA_ViPeR
Profile Joined June 2003
Germany187 Posts
February 18 2013 18:45 GMT
#146
On February 18 2013 20:24 skyR wrote:
Steelcase Leap or Herman Miller Aeron, out of your price range though. Just missed the semi annual Steelcase sale as well.

Ergohuman has lifetime warranty. Not sure where you got the two year warranty from...


Well I just looked at german vendors, only found online stores carrying them, and all 3 had a 2year warranty listed. The official UK/Europe site has much longer warranties listed as well as the US page, so sorry about that (will edit this in my original post).
But they are way more expensive on the european site, and possibly waiting weeks to get spare parts or even sending it in just won't cut it. Plus I found several comments in forums saying that the back/headrest is barely enough for 1.90m people (6'2" - 6'3"), so its too small for me anyway.

Steelcase chairs are on my radar too, but I can't find any information about bigger gas springs for them, so unless those are available, the seat height is 6-7cm (2.5") too low for me.

Btw forgot to mention some things in my first post:
Need this for my home, sitting there for maybe 4 hours per weekday, up to 8+ on the weekends.
As mentioned in my other post, I'm 1.96m (6'5"). I already have some minor problems with my back (upper and lower), occasional neckpains and funny enough my knees, mostly after sitting on the cheap piece of crap I'm currently using. The back/neck stuff I can avoid with walking and stretching for a bit, but thanks to insufficient height of the seat at about 50cm (20") while needing at least 58 (23"), the knee problems are more persistent, which is why I am so anal about the higher gas spring.
For the weekdays, a chair with a "normal-height" back without head/neckrest would definately do it, but for really long gaming/poker/movie/whatever sessions on the weekend I'd prefer it, cutting the possible chairs way down.

Increasing my (rather arbitrary) spending limit of 500€ to 1000€ isn't too big of a deal btw, as long as I get what I want/need in adjustability and warranty, because as already mentioned often in this thread, a much better chair lasting 12+ years for 1000 bucks is more than worth it over 150€ chairs lasting maybe 3 years max.

I'll post some real-life findings in 2-3 weeks after I made my office-furniture vendor tour (which of course are only open exactly during my working hours, not on weekends...), hopefully finding something there.
If anyone has some further suggestions on what to look for, or a tall person has personal experience with some chairs, I'd be very happy for your input!
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 19:02:31
February 18 2013 19:01 GMT
#147
On February 18 2013 21:04 ROOTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 20:57 TheNumberE wrote:
your gonna want a chair, with regards to health reasons, with a waterfall edge; adjustable arm rests and chair height, a back that suits the curvature of your spine and a place to rest your feet so they don't dangle.
another really cool alternative would be this nifty item
http://www.officechairadvice.com/images/assets/multi-balans-5-large.jpg


i would rather castrate myself

They're actually quite comfortable. Obviously not meant for 8 hour sitting sessions, but really no chair is. Don't need to make a stupid comment.
Refer to my post.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 18 2013 20:14 GMT
#148
I am looking forward to your findings FA_Viper!
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 00:39:57
February 19 2013 00:38 GMT
#149
So I read up on this thread and decided to stop by this office liquidator store.

Got me a haworth zody for $212 with tax ^^. Recommend for people who have one nearby.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 19 2013 01:20 GMT
#150
On February 19 2013 09:38 MassHysteria wrote:
So I read up on this thread and decided to stop by this office liquidator store.

Got me a haworth zody for $212 with tax ^^. Recommend for people who have one nearby.


That's a great deal man! Congrats.
Do you have time to tell a little about how it is to sit in it etc.?
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
February 19 2013 03:26 GMT
#151
No, I just wanted to show-off and feel good about myself really quick :p

Just set it up and will play with/try it out some more right now and let u know in a bit. But so far, the lumbar/back support is nice. Haven't even messed with the settings much though.. They had about 12 Areons in there and they were definitely nice. These compare pretty well if anyone is trying to not spend so much. Some Eurotech Ergonomic chair they had their was the prob the nicest chair I tried out, if anyone knows what I am talking about (b/c i don't remember details).
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 19 2013 13:58 GMT
#152
On February 19 2013 12:26 MassHysteria wrote:
No, I just wanted to show-off and feel good about myself really quick :p

Just set it up and will play with/try it out some more right now and let u know in a bit. But so far, the lumbar/back support is nice. Haven't even messed with the settings much though.. They had about 12 Areons in there and they were definitely nice. These compare pretty well if anyone is trying to not spend so much. Some Eurotech Ergonomic chair they had their was the prob the nicest chair I tried out, if anyone knows what I am talking about (b/c i don't remember details).


Ok Nice
Looking forward to your review!
I'll look up on the Eurotech thingie. Did you try aeron by the way? How did it feel compared to the others?
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 14:01:13
February 19 2013 14:01 GMT
#153
Just googled it. First hit: Amazon "EUROTECH Ergohuman"
Eurotech is Ergohuman. They are the ones I am looking at. But I am not going to take a fast decision. I want as much info about other chairs as possible to I can make sure I invest correctly.
(I am doing 1 hour shifts of sitting correctly as we speak)
Decided to work on my posture. I realized this after I started studying medicine.
My posture is really bad - from studying and gaming basically.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 22:37:12
February 19 2013 22:18 GMT
#154
Ya, I hurt my rotator cuff and got a TMJ issue about 2 years ago (still recovering somewhat) and increased my importance on posture from that point on so def support you on that.

After some further trying-out of the Zody, it is a damn comfortable chair. Can't compare too much to the Aeron because I didn't inspect/test the Aeron that/too much overthere, it was just extremely comfortable to sit in -Muscle ecstacy-. I only tried the size A (I believe) though I did see the B and C, though they looked like they would be too big for me (5'9).

At work I have been using a Highmark for the last year or so ( which are also nice btw) but I would prob take the Zody over it. The adjustable lumbar support (adjustable tension for left/right) is nice on the zody and something that the Highmark does not have (I think I use the Kadet, not the Bolero so it might be different on that model). The actual Zody I bought does not have 4-d handles which is pretty sick after looking at it online. It also does not have the back-stop lever or the forward-tilt lever, just the back-tension one to control how much pressure to tilt back. I would recommend all those things if you are looking to purchase one, it would make it a lot better.

As for posture, these chair really prevent slouching from what I can tell. I can see why they are recommended by the American Physical Therapy Association. The only thing that I really wish I had was the forward-tilt for intense work when you want to get up close.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 19 2013 22:37 GMT
#155
On February 20 2013 07:18 MassHysteria wrote:
Ya, I hurt my rotator cuff and got a TMJ issue about 2 years ago (still recovering somewhat) and increased my importance on posture from that point on so def support you on that.

After some further trying-out of the Zody, it is a damn comfortable chair. Can't compare too much to the Aeron because I didn't inspect/test the Aeron that/too much overthere, it was just extremely comfortable to sit in -Muscle ecstacy-. I only tried the size A (I believe) though I did see the B and C, though they looked like they would be too big for me (5'9).

At work I have been using a Highmark for the last year or so ( which are also nice btw) but I would prob take the Zody over it. The adjustable lumbar support (adjustable tension for left/right) is nice on the zody and something that the Highmark does not have (I think I use the Kadet, not the Bolero so it might be different on that model). The actual Zody I bought does not have 4-d handles which is pretty sick after looking. It also does not have the back-stop lever or the tilt-forward lever, just the back-tension one to control how much pressure to tilt back. I would recommend all those things if you are looking to purchase one, it would make it a lot better.

As for posture, these chair really prevent slouching from what I can tell. I can see why they are recommended by the American Physical Therapy Association. The only thing that I really wish I had was the tilt-forward for intense work when you want to get up close.


Nice! Thank you!
Can you talk a little more about how it helps against slouching? This is my main problem regarding my posture.
I think I will call some companies and tell them my measures so they can find the exact model (hopefully not just the most expensive one) for me.
Celeritas
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia52 Posts
February 25 2013 06:51 GMT
#156
Hey guys, my Ergohuman V1 arrived today! So far, it's a huge improvement over the generic $60 office chair I had before. I'll post a more comprehensive review once I've had a day or two to get used to it. I know there are a few people considering purchasing this chair, so let me know what things you want me to focus on.
ktffang
Profile Joined July 2009
United States120 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 09:41:31
February 25 2013 09:35 GMT
#157
Of course an ergohuman is gonna be a huge improvement over the generic $60 chairs! The name is also Raynor heh

Is there a reason to get the v2 over the v1? I was about to get an Ikea Markus. Glad I saw this thread.

EDIT: just watched the video on their site and the v1 seems a lot better. the only thing a v2 has is a sleaker bottom base heh



btw, there is also this...

http://www.amazon.com/LexMod-Future-Office-Chair-Headrest/dp/B007VLX5XU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361782764&sr=8-1&keywords=lexmod future

reviewed here:
http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2010/12/review-future-chair-offers-premium-experience-for-less-than-a-mortgage-payment/
7 times dowm, 8 times up
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 09:49:31
February 25 2013 09:47 GMT
#158
On February 18 2013 21:04 ROOTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 20:57 TheNumberE wrote:
your gonna want a chair, with regards to health reasons, with a waterfall edge; adjustable arm rests and chair height, a back that suits the curvature of your spine and a place to rest your feet so they don't dangle.
another really cool alternative would be this nifty item
http://www.officechairadvice.com/images/assets/multi-balans-5-large.jpg


i would rather castrate myself


My doctor uses this chair in his office. More comfortable than it looks as the pressure is evenly spread out rather than the standard chair which just presses your butt to a pulp if you sit there for 8 hours+ a day.

Too bad these things cost a small fortune.
ktffang
Profile Joined July 2009
United States120 Posts
February 25 2013 15:13 GMT
#159
damn. theres some used aeron chairs on my local craiglists going for the $400 range. would those be better than an ergohuman?

How do you know what size you need?
7 times dowm, 8 times up
NervO
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Netherlands511 Posts
February 25 2013 16:44 GMT
#160
Pretty sick chairs and there is a nice girl included!
Currently working with Team Acer CSGO | @AcerNervO
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 16:48:56
February 25 2013 16:46 GMT
#161
Am i wrong with the assumption that a correct posture + any 20bucks kitchen chair are enough for proper health and comfort ?.
(I used a stool pretty long aswell and it really forces you to maintain a good posture because you cant lean back / have a curvy back)
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
February 25 2013 21:06 GMT
#162
On February 26 2013 01:46 gaymon wrote:
Am i wrong with the assumption that a correct posture + any 20bucks kitchen chair are enough for proper health and comfort ?.
(I used a stool pretty long aswell and it really forces you to maintain a good posture because you cant lean back / have a curvy back)

yes.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
ktffang
Profile Joined July 2009
United States120 Posts
February 26 2013 00:50 GMT
#163
so man up and save a few hundred bucks
7 times dowm, 8 times up
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 23:55:36
March 01 2013 23:52 GMT
#164
Bit of a long shot, but does anyone know what model of DXRacer this chair is?

Not sure if it comes with the head rest pillow and other bits as well as what the weight restrictions and features of the chair are.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
March 06 2013 12:25 GMT
#165
I'll look into it
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
March 06 2013 12:55 GMT
#166
Can anyone speak to the durability of DXRacer chairs? I am particularly skeptical of the faux leather, since I have one of those chairs now and the material has worn away completely in just over a year. Keep in mind, I'm a skinny guy, so it's not like I put any strain on it.

Anyway, I have the option of getting the faux leather or fabric, and I'm just wondering which one will last me longer.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
March 09 2013 14:24 GMT
#167
Right so I'm around 6'1" / 6'2" and around 103kg (Working on that). What sort of chairs should I be looking at? Some of the ones I've seen are the Herman Miller Mirra, Steelcase Leap and Ergohuman V1 chair. These seem to be the best priced for me personally new and/or used. The problem is there is nowhere in my area where I can try these chairs so I'm trying to find the general consensus on which would be the best for me.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 15:09:02
March 09 2013 15:08 GMT
#168
On March 06 2013 21:55 Cel.erity wrote:
Can anyone speak to the durability of DXRacer chairs? I am particularly skeptical of the faux leather, since I have one of those chairs now and the material has worn away completely in just over a year. Keep in mind, I'm a skinny guy, so it's not like I put any strain on it.

Anyway, I have the option of getting the faux leather or fabric, and I'm just wondering which one will last me longer.


I have my DX Racer Commander since half a year and i'm very glad to have brought one in the first place. As far as the leather goes i can't make out any wearing down so far. I am skinny as well though and half a year is no long time for any means so yea that's only my experience
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jimbob615
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Uruguay455 Posts
March 09 2013 15:41 GMT
#169
just go big, go hard. get an Embody by Herman Miller. i made the investment 4 years ago and my quality of life has been supremely satisfying. i've gone on to become successful, get engaged with the love of my life, finish my studies, and reach diamond league. not sure if the chair was the causation for this but it surely helped.
Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
March 09 2013 15:53 GMT
#170
Out of curiosity, whats the best place to buy a super high end chair from HM or likewise? Amazon?
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
March 13 2013 23:39 GMT
#171
Hmm, should I get a used Steelcase Leap or a used Herman Miller Mirra? The used Aeron would've been nice but I need a size C and they're hard to find used in the UK or they're quite a bit more than a Leap or Mirra
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
March 16 2013 00:23 GMT
#172
Bump, looking to buy soon
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
March 30 2013 02:01 GMT
#173
This thread died
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 08:10:27
April 04 2013 07:24 GMT
#174
Maybe not the best thread but not sure where else to ask:

My chair is at least 10cm too low (i can rest my feet flat on the ground far too easily and when i relax upper body even slightly, my elbow is lower than the desk, which means that my forearm is forced to make a very uncomfortable and restrictive contact with the desk - and because i have to angle my arm upwards to get it above the desk, my wrist floats inches above where i want it to be - and there's nothing i can do about that unless i sit with tight posture, which is impossible for more than an hour or two - yes i did try working out etc, yes it helps but there's no way you can sit perfectly straight for 14 hours. I had to take breaks and stack pillows because i was literally unable to reach my mouse playing the HOTS campaign at a slow pace by the middle-end because i was sat too low)

It's pretty new, looked at many chairs, they all had almost identical max heights. I thought one with pretty much max height available would be ok, but not really. Too low. My desk does not seem particularly high at all and because i can easily put my feet on the ground (i am not even 6ft) it does not seem like getting a lower desk or setup is an option.

Im looking to raise height by like 10cm+, tried stacking multiple pillows on top of the seat but it's really weird to sit on and uncomfortable, does not work too well at all on a chair that has wheels and leans back. I tried going back to a cheap solid back wooden chair, but that's not really any better and it's kinda a massive waste of money to buy a chair and be unable to use it for things that require good posture (osu, sc2.. kinda important to be able to use mouse optimally, which requires the right elbow height)

Is there any kind of easy option that i am missing or am i doomed to a life of awkwardly messing around and rearranging pillows every couple hours to i can use my mouse properly?

I mean like even at full height with a pillow, my feet are uncomfortably close to the ground and my elbow's not high enough.

Just measured, its about half a meter (~1.64 feet) off the ground. I'd need another 15cm for my elbow with upper body relaxed to be comfortably above desk

Edit: Temporary decent fix, folded and stacked 3 towels. Much much much better than pillow's.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
XaMaXaM
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 21:12:03
April 04 2013 08:54 GMT
#175
On April 23 2012 23:44 Crazyseal wrote:
I recently bought a new chair and it would 100% recommend it to anybody. It has great height for your head to rest, great lower back support so you can sit for a while without any discomfort, very adjustable in height depending on how tall you are. Also it has a great mesh back to allow for a bit of breathing so you dont get all sweaty and stuck to the back.

Its £125 check it out if you have an Ikea nearby:

http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/20103101/


I got him he sucks, really after 1 1/2 years so many problems.. he tries to kill me almost everyday.
I would really love to have a DX RACER. You should buy one too.
yaeger
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway98 Posts
April 04 2013 14:45 GMT
#176
Im thinking abou buying a DX Racer chair too, but whats the difference between em? besides wacky colours and "racing" logos ?=)
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
April 04 2013 16:47 GMT
#177
http://www.ikea.com/pl/pl/catalog/products/40103100/

[image loading]

Best i ever had (have it right now).

can lay back for resting while watching stream, holds your back in the 'right' position and can be good for competitive playing.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
yaeger
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway98 Posts
April 04 2013 16:50 GMT
#178
i got the same one, the problem is that u cant regulate the height of armrests, thats why im getting a new one
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
April 04 2013 17:33 GMT
#179
Mine went bad in a year and that doesnt have like any adjustements.
serenadexh
Profile Joined December 2012
United States5 Posts
April 05 2013 18:51 GMT
#180
I get really hot when I sit in a leather chair. I currently have a fabric chair that doesn't really heat up as much. Is mesh comfortable enough that it's better than fabric, in the scenario of getting a Ergohuman ME7ERG? Would it be more comfortable to get the Ergohuman that has a leather seat but mesh back? I'm not sure if it's more of the leather back or the leather seat that makes me hot, or maybe it's both?
Marimokkori
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States306 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 03:10:44
April 09 2013 03:08 GMT
#181
On February 25 2013 18:35 ktffang wrote:
Of course an ergohuman is gonna be a huge improvement over the generic $60 chairs! The name is also Raynor heh

Is there a reason to get the v2 over the v1? I was about to get an Ikea Markus. Glad I saw this thread.

EDIT: just watched the video on their site and the v1 seems a lot better. the only thing a v2 has is a sleaker bottom base heh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xuvYoqzUfPI


btw, there is also this...

http://www.amazon.com/LexMod-Future-Office-Chair-Headrest/dp/B007VLX5XU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361782764&sr=8-1&keywords=lexmod future

reviewed here:
http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2010/12/review-future-chair-offers-premium-experience-for-less-than-a-mortgage-payment/

Been looking into these chairs today and came across the Raynor Elite (Updated v2)

[image loading]

Basically the same with slightly improved customization from what I can tell.
New mesh. Arm rests now tilt.
+ Show Spoiler +
The Raynor Ergo Elite Chair with Headrest ME22ERGLT is the new, redesigned version of the popular Ergohuman V2 Chair featuring a high back and headrest. The ME22ERGLT Chair offers all of the same ergonomic features of the original Ergohuman V2 Chair with black arms and seat mechanism and an updated mesh pattern. The ME22ERGLT Raynor Ergo Elite Chairs design offers easy adjustability, a high weight capacity and a more customized fit through dynamic arms that slide forward and back and five-position tilt lock. This chair is also available without a headrest as the Raynor Ergo Elite Chair ME5ERGLTLOW.


This chair is really looking like a winner to me, especially if the warranty is good.


The Future Chair looks interesting but lacks functionality, even though it claims to have everything and more. You can't adjust the armrest width, for example.
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men
MisterJef
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada62 Posts
April 09 2013 20:23 GMT
#182
I'm getting a DXRacer this summer! I'll let you guys know how awesome it is!
Dat Marine Split
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
April 09 2013 21:02 GMT
#183
This thread is really making me want to buy a new chair. Mine isn't bad, but there are some really cool chairs out there. xD
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Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
April 11 2013 20:23 GMT
#184
I can get a used Steelcase Leap V2 for £200. Anyone have one of these?
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 11 2013 21:30 GMT
#185
I have a Leap v2, what you want to know?
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
April 11 2013 22:27 GMT
#186
I can't seem to find measurements of the seat, how high the chair can go etc.

Anyway,

- What are the arms like? Do they get in the way or are they comfortable?
- Is the back support ample enough? Is it supportive when typing as well as relaxing?
- Do you think it'd be suitable for someone 6 ft. 2ish and about 200lbs?
- Is the material hot and sweaty or breathable?

I'm just looking for general good/bad points about the chair from people who aren't paid to give a review / didn't get the chair for free.

Thanks.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 23:06:05
April 11 2013 23:05 GMT
#187
The arms are fully adjustable (height, depth, width, pivot). I'm not particularly a big individual so width might be a problem for you? They can adjust inwards but not outwards, there's roughly 48cm of space between the two arms. There's also the possibility of removing the armrests but its a complicated process. Back support is fine. I didn't opt for a headrest so it's not as comfortable as it could be when I'm reclining in the chair. I have air conditioning so can't comment on the breathability of the fabric.

Oh, measurements can be found on page 13: http://www.steelcase.com/en/products/category/seating/task/leap/documents/leap_brochure_final_spreads.pdf
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 00:08:49
April 11 2013 23:20 GMT
#188
Hmm, might be OK. This my current chair and it's horrible - http://www.viking-direct.co.uk/a/pb/Malaga-Leather-Faced-Executive-Office-Chair-in-Black/id=3261822/

Not quite sure what other options I should consider.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
RedSox12
Profile Joined April 2012
58 Posts
April 12 2013 19:16 GMT
#189
I have terrible back pains when sitting for a long time. It makes it difficult for me to play. As of now I have a large black executive style leather chair, it still doesn't do the job for me. I always prefer watching movies even from my desktop laying down, simply because it is uncomfortable for me and my lower back to sit in. Is there any chair you may recommend that would be good for gaming, studies and reading in general?
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
April 14 2013 09:37 GMT
#190
On April 12 2013 06:30 skyR wrote:
I have a Leap v2, what you want to know?


Did you compare it against the Think when you were shopping around?
© Current year.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 14 2013 11:11 GMT
#191
Leap's back support and tilt adjustability is far superior to Think's, worth the $100.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
April 15 2013 04:07 GMT
#192
So I get pain in my neck when I play for several hours (whenever I'm laddering and actually trying). Some friends say posture, others have said I have no armrest and need one. I play on a normal wooden chair haha (I'm in a furnished apartment) that I put a pillow on. I never really thought about it, but seeing this thread makes me wonder if a new chair might help? I think I normally have good posture, and my elbow might not quite be at 90 degrees, fwiw.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
April 15 2013 04:43 GMT
#193
Your elbow positioning is more to do with your desk arrangement. As an example, I have an IKEA Galant lowered so my entire desk surface is low-enough that my elbow is basically at 90-degrees using the mouse and keyboard. Can you adjust your desk in the mean time? I would get that settled before even tackling the chair tbh.

The alternative is you raise your chair high enough, but then there's other issues...depending on how tall you are haha.

That said...you describe your chair as little more than a typical dining room chair :/
With no power comes no responsibility?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
April 15 2013 04:43 GMT
#194
I play on a normal wooden chair haha (I'm in a furnished apartment) that I put a pillow on


You're probably good for basic posture, you should have somebody look at you, or have a webcam record your posture, how you sit and especially what you do with your back/neck while playing, there's probably issues that a new chair would at best cover up
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
April 16 2013 05:32 GMT
#195
On April 15 2013 13:43 mav451 wrote:
Your elbow positioning is more to do with your desk arrangement. As an example, I have an IKEA Galant lowered so my entire desk surface is low-enough that my elbow is basically at 90-degrees using the mouse and keyboard. Can you adjust your desk in the mean time? I would get that settled before even tackling the chair tbh.

The alternative is you raise your chair high enough, but then there's other issues...depending on how tall you are haha.

That said...you describe your chair as little more than a typical dining room chair :/


That's literally what it is. XD It's actually identical to the dining room chairs we have minus the bit of cushioning they have, hahaha.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 13:34:03
April 18 2013 13:30 GMT
#196
Still haven't a clue what chair to get. Definitely want something that can be sat in for quite a bit and something that fits someone that is 6' 2". Got about £300-£400 to spend.

I also definitely need something that can adjust to higher than 21 inches in height if possible.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
April 18 2013 14:23 GMT
#197
On April 15 2013 13:07 Alryk wrote:
So I get pain in my neck when I play for several hours (whenever I'm laddering and actually trying). Some friends say posture, others have said I have no armrest and need one. I play on a normal wooden chair haha (I'm in a furnished apartment) that I put a pillow on. I never really thought about it, but seeing this thread makes me wonder if a new chair might help? I think I normally have good posture, and my elbow might not quite be at 90 degrees, fwiw.

Do you have your monitor below your eyeline?

[image loading]
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 20:40:26
April 28 2013 20:39 GMT
#198
I'm really close to pulling the trigger on the Steelcase Leap V2 (used but in very good condition). Anyone care to add any input? Anybody else use this chair besides skyR?

It's basically either the Leap V2 or a DX Racer chair.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
oscar62
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada417 Posts
April 28 2013 23:38 GMT
#199
I need a $200-300 priced chair recommendation

my lower backs killin me from nerding out all day
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
April 28 2013 23:52 GMT
#200
On April 18 2013 23:23 FinBenton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 13:07 Alryk wrote:
So I get pain in my neck when I play for several hours (whenever I'm laddering and actually trying). Some friends say posture, others have said I have no armrest and need one. I play on a normal wooden chair haha (I'm in a furnished apartment) that I put a pillow on. I never really thought about it, but seeing this thread makes me wonder if a new chair might help? I think I normally have good posture, and my elbow might not quite be at 90 degrees, fwiw.

Do you have your monitor below your eyeline?

[image loading]


More or less? The angle of my arms to the mouse is about 120 degrees or a little wider... I can't have it at 90 because I literally don't have a tall enough chair (it's not made as an office chair, no adjustability or anything. Just a wooden dining chair). I'm generally looking down, the very top of my monitor is probably even with my eyeline.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Manijak
Profile Joined October 2010
Slovenia112 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 18:13:31
May 14 2013 14:32 GMT
#201
Looking for a new chair, leaning towards DX Racer ones (M or U series). Can someone maybe share some personal expiriences with them? I am also wondering how sturdy/long lasting they are - all chairs I had untill now broke after a few years...
xsnfrkm
Profile Joined May 2013
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 19:03:06
May 23 2013 18:58 GMT
#202
You can purchase an ergonomic chair such as the Herman Miller brands for much cheaper than what they sell. I get my chairs at the link I embedded. http://www.beverlyhillschairs.comThere are lots of chairs you can choose from to fit your range of budget and they all have really great value.
Marimokkori
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States306 Posts
May 24 2013 04:21 GMT
#203
On May 24 2013 03:58 xsnfrkm wrote:
You can purchase an ergonomic chair such as the Herman Miller brands for much cheaper than what they sell. I get my chairs at the link I embedded. http://www.beverlyhillschairs.comThere are lots of chairs you can choose from to fit your range of budget and they all have really great value.

Just came across this today and the prices are a steal.

I finally have some money saved up and have my selection narrowed to three chairs.

LexMod Future Chair $459

Herman Miller Aeron $610

Raynor Ergo Elite $679


The Raynor Ergo Elite is really calling to me but I'm not sure if it's worth the price. Has anyone used it before?
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n0ah
Profile Joined June 2011
United States250 Posts
June 01 2013 20:39 GMT
#204
I've read through all 11 pages of this thread, but can anyone provide any information on the lumbar support of the DxRacers? I'm considering buying one because I've been having really bad lower back pain lately, and I think it's due to my chair/posture.

I recently bought one of those $5 mesh back-support things that you can attach to your chair to see if it helps at all, (and so far it seems to help ... a little) but I'm not sure if I should just bite the bullet and buy a whole new chair.

So yeah, are the DxRacer's really as comfortable and ergonomic as people say they are?
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lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
June 05 2013 08:36 GMT
#205
Here is my real question that I hadn't found yet. I read through a few pages but no where do people talk about where you can go and sit in these fuckers. I cannot find a place where I can actually go and test any of these chairs out. I feel weird messaging people on craigslist and being like hey yeah I wanna come sit in your chair first for a while and maybe I will get back to you. I think that I want the herman aeron but I don't know if I will like the mesh better in the long run of the steelcase leap hard back. Also not really sure what size I would need.
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MisterJef
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada62 Posts
June 07 2013 17:11 GMT
#206
On June 02 2013 05:39 n0ah wrote:
I've read through all 11 pages of this thread, but can anyone provide any information on the lumbar support of the DxRacers? I'm considering buying one because I've been having really bad lower back pain lately, and I think it's due to my chair/posture.

I recently bought one of those $5 mesh back-support things that you can attach to your chair to see if it helps at all, (and so far it seems to help ... a little) but I'm not sure if I should just bite the bullet and buy a whole new chair.

So yeah, are the DxRacer's really as comfortable and ergonomic as people say they are?


Hey man,
Like I said ont he other page i'll comment on the DXracer when I get it this summer but one of my buddies ( Kushed on sc2 ) got a dxracer a few weeks ago from needforseat.com because DXRacerUSA won't ship to canada. He bought the new chair they got the Fastback it's the cheapest one of the site ( 280 $ USD ) and boy is it every nice it's super comfy! The lumbar support they send is nice but I find it a little big but just the chair itself without the supports will give you a great posture. I really like using the little head pillow they give with it. So to respond to your question yes the DXRacer are super comfortable and ergonomic. Just make sure your screen is high enough so you dont bend your neck!
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ObliviousNA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States535 Posts
June 07 2013 20:42 GMT
#207
I've been on the same crappy 100$ office chair for almost 5 years now, and it's really wearing out. I want to finally get a good chair, but I don't really have a good idea where to start. DXRacer has some decent looking ones down in the 300$ range, but what differentiates the 300$ chair from the 500$ chair? I'd really like something that reclines so I can watch sc2 streams and lean back. Is that too much to ask for the bottom end price range? Any other chairs I should look at instead? I'd really like not to spend over 400 if it can be helped.

Thanks
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DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
June 07 2013 22:43 GMT
#208
On June 08 2013 05:42 ObliviousNA wrote:
I've been on the same crappy 100$ office chair for almost 5 years now, and it's really wearing out. I want to finally get a good chair, but I don't really have a good idea where to start. DXRacer has some decent looking ones down in the 300$ range, but what differentiates the 300$ chair from the 500$ chair? I'd really like something that reclines so I can watch sc2 streams and lean back. Is that too much to ask for the bottom end price range? Any other chairs I should look at instead? I'd really like not to spend over 400 if it can be helped.

Thanks


Lol, I am in the same situation. My butt starts to hurt after a few hours in it. Its THAT bad. I just dont have the money to go out and spend 500 bucks on a new chair.
phar
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1080 Posts
June 08 2013 01:02 GMT
#209
On June 08 2013 07:43 DaCruise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 05:42 ObliviousNA wrote:
I've been on the same crappy 100$ office chair for almost 5 years now, and it's really wearing out. I want to finally get a good chair, but I don't really have a good idea where to start. DXRacer has some decent looking ones down in the 300$ range, but what differentiates the 300$ chair from the 500$ chair? I'd really like something that reclines so I can watch sc2 streams and lean back. Is that too much to ask for the bottom end price range? Any other chairs I should look at instead? I'd really like not to spend over 400 if it can be helped.

Thanks


Lol, I am in the same situation. My butt starts to hurt after a few hours in it. Its THAT bad. I just dont have the money to go out and spend 500 bucks on a new chair.

Terry Pratchett:

"The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.

Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.

But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness."


I'm starting to come around on the making higher priced purchases very infrequently thing. If it's something you really are going to be using a lot - chair, bed, shoes... consider coughing up the change.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 01:46:46
June 08 2013 01:29 GMT
#210
I've just ordered a Dxracer F01 which was a bit above my intended budget, but I tried one at a LAN a while ago and it was comfy, plus it looks like people appreciate it. All the chairs that I tried locally were either uncomfortable or too expensive. Some were sort of comfortable in the $200 range but also looked cheap and would probably fall apart fast.

I'm sure I could have gotten something better for $800, but I'd also be down $500... Can't wait to get it, hopefully it's as comfy as the one I tried. Hopefully I didn't screw up with that!

On June 08 2013 10:02 phar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 07:43 DaCruise wrote:
On June 08 2013 05:42 ObliviousNA wrote:
I've been on the same crappy 100$ office chair for almost 5 years now, and it's really wearing out. I want to finally get a good chair, but I don't really have a good idea where to start. DXRacer has some decent looking ones down in the 300$ range, but what differentiates the 300$ chair from the 500$ chair? I'd really like something that reclines so I can watch sc2 streams and lean back. Is that too much to ask for the bottom end price range? Any other chairs I should look at instead? I'd really like not to spend over 400 if it can be helped.

Thanks


Lol, I am in the same situation. My butt starts to hurt after a few hours in it. Its THAT bad. I just dont have the money to go out and spend 500 bucks on a new chair.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness."

You do understand that the reason why he call it "socioeconomic unfairness" is that some people literally cannot cough up the change without sacrificing essentials. The most obvious example of that is renting an apartment. Renting is in appearance incredibly stupid, it's burning money - but for a lot of people, it's all they can afford.

I would definitely advise to spend more than $100 for a chair though, given all those horror stories about how so many people have back problems at a fairly young age. That said, my current $200 chair is only starting to fall apart now after 6-7 years, so I've got my money's worth even though I got the cheap-ish boots
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Marimokkori
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States306 Posts
June 08 2013 03:59 GMT
#211
My LexMod Future Chair (Retail $900, currently ~$500) just came in this week. So far I love it. Best purchase I've made in a long time. It's slightly uncomfortable to use when sitting with poor posture, ie slouching. So it's probably going to improve my posture in the long run, and gaming no longer hurts my shoulder/arm/hand because I can get the correct height on everything and the armrests are a bit squishy but really hold their shape very well. Will update in a few months probably to talk about durability, etc.
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 08 2013 04:22 GMT
#212
On needforseatusa.com, they have multiple categories of seats. From what I can read on the site, the higher categories just have a little bit more padding, but I'm not sure how much more. Has anyone tried different kinds of seats? Is there a noticeable difference? Is there a difference in comfort? Also does anyone own any of the non-black chairs? I think they look nice, but not sure how well they'll handle stains.
phar
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1080 Posts
June 08 2013 05:01 GMT
#213
On June 08 2013 10:29 Djzapz wrote:
You do understand that the reason why he call it "socioeconomic unfairness" is that some people literally cannot cough up the change without sacrificing essentials. The most obvious example of that is renting an apartment. Renting is in appearance incredibly stupid, it's burning money - but for a lot of people, it's all they can afford.

I would definitely advise to spend more than $100 for a chair though, given all those horror stories about how so many people have back problems at a fairly young age. That said, my current $200 chair is only starting to fall apart now after 6-7 years, so I've got my money's worth even though I got the cheap-ish boots

Yes I understand it. Most of the people here are spending hundreds on their computers. They aren't prioritizing their back health, it's not that they couldn't afford a quality chair (as you point out its a couple-few hundred to get a proper chair). A lot of my friends have like 1k computers and $50 chairs.
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FoxShine
Profile Joined January 2012
United States156 Posts
June 08 2013 05:14 GMT
#214
I wish someone would make a thread kind of like the mouse thread, where they explain all the different types of chairs and what to look for. because im totally confused. I know you want lumbar support and a high back chair but there are soo many different options.
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ObliviousNA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States535 Posts
June 08 2013 19:33 GMT
#215
Does anyone know the difference between the low-end and mid-end DXRacer chairs? Anyone have a solid recommendation, or another chair of similar price/quality?
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Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
June 09 2013 01:50 GMT
#216
Anyone know how firm the seat on the Steelcase Leap V2 is? Is it firm as in supportive or too firm?
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AmorphousPhoenix
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
107 Posts
June 09 2013 03:39 GMT
#217
Six hundred dollar chairs? What the hell? I got my chair for like forty bucks at walmart. It's been perfectly fine for me for about 3 years. Have people really been convinced that if they don't pay hundreds of dollars for a chair they will get scoliosis or something?
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Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
June 09 2013 03:43 GMT
#218
On June 09 2013 12:39 AmorphousPhoenix wrote:
Six hundred dollar chairs? What the hell? I got my chair for like forty bucks at walmart. It's been perfectly fine for me for about 3 years. Have people really been convinced that if they don't pay hundreds of dollars for a chair they will get scoliosis or something?


I'd put it in the same category as keyboards. A lot of people talk about them and we are seeing a lot more higher end versions of them, so more people want them. Do you need it? Nah. But hell, why not. #yolo (coming from someone in an 80 dollar chair)
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 05:44:31
June 09 2013 04:49 GMT
#219
On June 09 2013 12:39 AmorphousPhoenix wrote:
Six hundred dollar chairs? What the hell? I got my chair for like forty bucks at walmart. It's been perfectly fine for me for about 3 years. Have people really been convinced that if they don't pay hundreds of dollars for a chair they will get scoliosis or something?


Well if you have a decent paying job, after necessities are taken care of, investing in things that can improve the quality of your life or work is a good idea.

My friend got hired as a lab assistant last year. They gave her $500 and told her to buy anything that made her office more comfortable to her. When I asked if she went and bought a new chair with that she told me "lol no, the chair there costs $1200".

We have Luxury items for a reason. Because people want them and buy them and chairs are no exception.

CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 09 2013 07:44 GMT
#220
On June 09 2013 10:50 Mackem wrote:
Anyone know how firm the seat on the Steelcase Leap V2 is? Is it firm as in supportive or too firm?

SkyR would know the answer to this as he owns one. While I haven't tried it yet, I'm probably going to order one once I get a chance to check one out at a store. Based on what I've read, it seems to be a better overall chair than the Aeron which I sit in for 8+ hours a day.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 09 2013 09:16 GMT
#221
That's largely a matter of opinion.

And yes, I find the Leap to be far superior to the Aeron.
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 11:12:49
June 11 2013 11:09 GMT
#222
On June 09 2013 18:16 skyR wrote:
That's largely a matter of opinion.

And yes, I find the Leap to be far superior to the Aeron.


Edit: Nevermind I went through your posts. I was curious what tyou think about getting a used leap on craigslist versus buying a new one with a warranty from one of those cheaper chair sites? Also do you know of any difference between v1 and v2?
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Vault Boy
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany131 Posts
June 11 2013 11:27 GMT
#223
http://www.dxracer.net /END
Astartes
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany7 Posts
June 11 2013 12:16 GMT
#224
I just can recommend DXRacer chairs for everyone who wants comfort or is worried about their health due to sitting for multiple hours each day.

I had serious problems with my spinal due to a desease - couldnt stand up properly after sitting for a long time and since i bought me a DXRacer chair the problems vanished.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 11 2013 12:34 GMT
#225
On June 11 2013 20:09 lightrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:16 skyR wrote:
That's largely a matter of opinion.

And yes, I find the Leap to be far superior to the Aeron.


Edit: Nevermind I went through your posts. I was curious what tyou think about getting a used leap on craigslist versus buying a new one with a warranty from one of those cheaper chair sites? Also do you know of any difference between v1 and v2?


Whether you buy used or brand new comes down to how much you value the warranty and 30-day return window.

v2 has better armrests, automatic flexible seat edge or whatever you call it, and better back.
HandA711
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
202 Posts
June 11 2013 13:01 GMT
#226
didn't know chairs are so damn expensive.
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FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
June 11 2013 16:53 GMT
#227
On June 11 2013 22:01 HandA711 wrote:
didn't know chairs are so damn expensive.

High quality anything is damn expensive.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 23:25:40
June 11 2013 19:00 GMT
#228
Edit: I am crazy. Nvm
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Celeritas
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia52 Posts
June 14 2013 07:06 GMT
#229
Well, I know I promised it about 4 months ago, but here it is, my review of the Ergohuman V1.

(please forgive image quality, I took these photos on my phone in my poorly-lit room)
(I also forgot to dust my chair beforehand, so the plastic isn't as rough as it looks)

Introduction
My old chair was falling apart, so I figured I'd splash out and buy myself something really nice that will last me indefinitely. After doing a bit of research on what was available in Australia, I decided to go with the Ergohuman V1, and suffice to say, I've been extremely satisfied. I would definitely recommend this chair to anyone looking to upgrade to something really comfortable.

The chair: + Show Spoiler +
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Adjustability
I've created an imgur album of the ways in which the Ergohuman V1 can be adjusted. I will also go into more detail here (referencing from the album).

Arm-rests
The arm-rests can be adjusted in a number of ways: height, arm-rest angle, and arm-rest displacement. The only thing you can't adjust is the distance either side of the seat base.
Height adjustments: + Show Spoiler +
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Angle adjustments: + Show Spoiler +
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Arm-rest displacement: + Show Spoiler +
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Head-rest
Not too much to say here, you can adjust both the height and angle of the headrest.
Images: + Show Spoiler +
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Back
You can both recline the back and adjust the height of the back.
Reclining: + Show Spoiler +
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Back height: + Show Spoiler +
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Other
You can also adjust the position of the seat base and obviously the height of the chair.
Seat base: + Show Spoiler +
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Height range: + Show Spoiler +
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Lower back support: + Show Spoiler +
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Differences Between The Ergohuman V1 and V2
The Ergohuman website website does a nice summary of the differences between the V1 and V2 (scroll down, there's also a video). Aside from minor ways in which things can be adjusted, the primary difference is the width of the seat. I'm a fairly slim guy (~62kg), so the V1 ends up being pretty roomy.

Me: + Show Spoiler +
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Me in the chair: + Show Spoiler +
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While I don't know how much smaller the V2 is, if you're a bigger person I'd suggest going with the V1 to be safe.

Other Notes
Since the chair is mesh, it's probably best to keep it away from pets that like to scratch (e.g. cats). I've always kept my door closed, so I don't know if my cats have ever been interested in tearing up my chair. That being said, it's better to be safe than sorry.

Secondly, and again because the chair is mesh, if you live in a warmer part of the world, the chair is very breathable (you won't melt like you would in a leather chair). However, if you live in such an area and wear summer clothing, the mesh can feel a little weird on bare skin. Nothing unpleasant though.

If you play a guitar or bass, playing it in this chair is a little annoying. The arm-rests can be lowered, but it is tedious to remove them (large metal screws). You're forced to perch on the end of the chair, which obviously isn't optimal. It's definitely something to consider if you play either instrument regularly (alternatively, always have the arm-rests off).

Finally, the chair encourages you to sit with proper posture. It provides amazing support to your lower back, and makes sitting up straight actually really comfortable. After using the chair for over 4 months, I've noticed my posture has been noticeably better (although I have been paying attention to it since getting the chair).

Closing Thoughts
The step up from a $50 office chair to the Ergohuman V1 has been amazing to me. I feel extremely comfortable when at my computer, it is adjustable to suit my body, and my posture has improved considerably. If you're looking for a new chair, I'd recommend saving up a little bit more money and purchasing something like this chair.

Anyone who browses Teamliquid no doubt spends a lot of time at their computers. If you do a tonne of cycling, you buy a nice bike; if you play a lot of guitar, you buy a high-quality one; if you do a lot of sitting, you should probably buy a good chair.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
June 22 2013 16:37 GMT
#230
Does anybody have comments on dxracer chairs? Is it just brand name? Coming from a dining room chair and another with hardly any arm rest, I don't think I need the best quality to notice a difference, so I don't want to spend a ton, and I see them supporting pretty much every tournament there is is there a price/value part to chairs? Or can I figure that what I pay will be what I get? What's the minimum amount that I might want to spend for a decent chair?

Last question; is there a general guideline for like how long I want the back to be versus how tall I am? (5'10" / ~180cm)
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 22 2013 21:34 GMT
#231
Well just ask yourself have you ever heard or seen of DXRacer before Starcraft II? I just know their popularity was non-existent before Starcraft II. Their website looks like its created by a freshman in high school, their warranty is only one year, their chairs lacks adjustments (well their website is really crap so that's what it looks like. Their site says seat depth is adjustable but doesn't show any pictures or list specifications ...), and their lumbar support is a cushion (really?).

Not sure how much you're willing to spend but in case you can't try chairs. Steelcase now offers a try it before you buy it option. Shipping and return is completely free of charge.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 22:02:05
June 22 2013 21:58 GMT
#232
Hmm thanks, I'll look into that. Although I think steelcase might be significantly out of budget
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1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
June 25 2013 22:26 GMT
#233
On June 23 2013 06:34 skyR wrote:
Well just ask yourself have you ever heard or seen of DXRacer before Starcraft II? I just know their popularity was non-existent before Starcraft II. Their website looks like its created by a freshman in high school, their warranty is only one year, their chairs lacks adjustments (well their website is really crap so that's what it looks like. Their site says seat depth is adjustable but doesn't show any pictures or list specifications ...), and their lumbar support is a cushion (really?).

Not sure how much you're willing to spend but in case you can't try chairs. Steelcase now offers a try it before you buy it option. Shipping and return is completely free of charge.

ive never heard progamers praise anything more than dxracers though, including the brands that are actually sponsoring them.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 26 2013 00:09 GMT
#234
That's because most brands sponsoring them are hardware manufacturers. You can actually feel the difference a chair makes whereas you're not going to give two shits having 60 FPS rather than 50 FPS. Most progamers probably have never owned a Steelcase or Herman Miller so obviously they're going to praise a good chair that is given to them.
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
June 26 2013 00:25 GMT
#235
On June 26 2013 09:09 skyR wrote:
That's because most brands sponsoring them are hardware manufacturers. You can actually feel the difference a chair makes whereas you're not going to give two shits having 60 FPS rather than 50 FPS. Most progamers probably have never owned a Steelcase or Herman Miller so obviously they're going to praise a good chair that is given to them.

but that's like saying people who praise a lexus have never been in a maybach.
For most people even dxracers have a too steep of a pricetag.
KaoReal
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada340 Posts
June 26 2013 02:54 GMT
#236
skyR have you used a DXR chair extensively? Would you recommend it at all, or advise against it? You seem to be somewhat of a chair aficionado, so I'm curious what your opinion on those ~$1000 chairs vs a DXR. Some of the more expensive ones seem to go pretty overboard on the lumbar support, to a degree that it looks like you might end up sitting in a lumbar-extended position instead of a neutral spine.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 26 2013 03:17 GMT
#237
I'm not a chair afiicionado lol. I just hate this DXRacer fad and hate how people can justify spending $500-$1000 every five or so years on a PC and phone but can't justify the same amount on a chair purchase for a lifetime.

DXRacer isn't available in Canada so no I haven't used it at all.
Marimokkori
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States306 Posts
June 26 2013 03:55 GMT
#238
On June 26 2013 12:17 skyR wrote:
I'm not a chair afiicionado lol. I just hate this DXRacer fad and hate how people can justify spending $500-$1000 every five or so years on a PC and phone but can't justify the same amount on a chair purchase for a lifetime.

DXRacer isn't available in Canada so no I haven't used it at all.

I'm also not a fan. The customization just isn't there. If it turns out to fit you, great! You find a good chair for a cheap price. However, it won't fit most people and you can't adjust some things that really make a difference. If you are considering getting a DXRacer, find somewhere that you can try one, because if it doesn't fit you correctly, you shouldn't buy it.

I bought the LexMod Future chair a few weeks ago and really like it so far. It was on sale on Amazon for ~%50 off so I picked one up for $500 instead of the retail $900. The lumbar support is a bit too intense for me, but it's miles ahead of any chair I've ever used. You can adjust almost everything, so chances are you can get it to fit you properly.
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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
June 26 2013 04:37 GMT
#239
On June 26 2013 12:55 Marimokkori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 12:17 skyR wrote:
I'm not a chair afiicionado lol. I just hate this DXRacer fad and hate how people can justify spending $500-$1000 every five or so years on a PC and phone but can't justify the same amount on a chair purchase for a lifetime.

DXRacer isn't available in Canada so no I haven't used it at all.

I'm also not a fan. The customization just isn't there. If it turns out to fit you, great! You find a good chair for a cheap price. However, it won't fit most people and you can't adjust some things that really make a difference. If you are considering getting a DXRacer, find somewhere that you can try one, because if it doesn't fit you correctly, you shouldn't buy it.

I bought the LexMod Future chair a few weeks ago and really like it so far. It was on sale on Amazon for ~%50 off so I picked one up for $500 instead of the retail $900. The lumbar support is a bit too intense for me, but it's miles ahead of any chair I've ever used. You can adjust almost everything, so chances are you can get it to fit you properly.


Not that I don't believe you, but can you give examples? I'm a noob here
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 05:32:44
June 26 2013 05:31 GMT
#240
What examples? The lack of adjustments on the DXRacer? On their lowest model, it lacks seat depth adjustment (which is pretty goddam important), pivot and width arm rest adjustments (the armrests are basically shit if you want to compare it to the upcoming Steelcase Gesture's crazy adjustments), lower back firmness adjustment, tension adjustment, lumbar adjustment, headrest adjustment, and auto seat depth adjustment as you recline.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 26 2013 06:21 GMT
#241
Ok, skyR has talked me out of buying a DXracer. What are some good chairs in the sub $500 pricerange? If there's one that's significantly better just over $500, I may consider it as well.
Medivac
Profile Joined August 2012
United States15 Posts
June 26 2013 07:10 GMT
#242
I've had a ton of lower back pain from sitting lately. Anybody have any luck with a lumbar cushion? I sit for the majority of my 12 hour shifts at work, and I game a lot at home in a cheap chair.
Marimokkori
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States306 Posts
June 26 2013 07:20 GMT
#243
On June 26 2013 16:10 Medivac wrote:
I've had a ton of lower back pain from sitting lately. Anybody have any luck with a lumbar cushion? I sit for the majority of my 12 hour shifts at work, and I game a lot at home in a cheap chair.

My mom has a degenerative back disease and her physical therapist gave her a lumbar cushion to use. She uses it all the time and says it helps a great deal. Worth looking into if you don't want an entirely new chair.
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
June 26 2013 07:57 GMT
#244
On June 26 2013 12:17 skyR wrote:
I'm not a chair afiicionado lol. I just hate this DXRacer fad and hate how people can justify spending $500-$1000 every five or so years on a PC and phone but can't justify the same amount on a chair purchase for a lifetime.

DXRacer isn't available in Canada so no I haven't used it at all.


There's a limited number of dxracer models at memory express

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Search/Products?Search=dxracer

I know the richmond BC branch has a bunch out on display, not sure about the other locations. They're definitely not bad but sitting in them for 30s is a long way from sitting in them for 8 hours.
rEalGuapo
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany832 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 08:57:09
June 26 2013 08:56 GMT
#245
On June 26 2013 16:10 Medivac wrote:
I've had a ton of lower back pain from sitting lately. Anybody have any luck with a lumbar cushion? I sit for the majority of my 12 hour shifts at work, and I game a lot at home in a cheap chair.


You could also incorporate 45 minutes of lifting into your day, after 2 months of doing deadlifts every week your lower back will snap your chairs neck if it still insists on inflicting pain to you.
Medivac
Profile Joined August 2012
United States15 Posts
June 26 2013 09:40 GMT
#246
On June 26 2013 17:56 rEalGuapo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 16:10 Medivac wrote:
I've had a ton of lower back pain from sitting lately. Anybody have any luck with a lumbar cushion? I sit for the majority of my 12 hour shifts at work, and I game a lot at home in a cheap chair.


You could also incorporate 45 minutes of lifting into your day, after 2 months of doing deadlifts every week your lower back will snap your chairs neck if it still insists on inflicting pain to you.


Incredibly daft thing to say. You think that further irritating an already inflamed area is actually going to help? Please, let's not further derail this thread.
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
June 26 2013 11:47 GMT
#247
Actually strengthening of the core muscles can help with back pain tremendously, especially if it comes from sitting down or posture related issues. Have you tried incorporating regular swimming into your schedule, that is absolutely amazing for back pain. Heavy weight lifting could potentially cause further damage though, as you say.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 26 2013 12:04 GMT
#248
On June 26 2013 16:57 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 12:17 skyR wrote:
I'm not a chair afiicionado lol. I just hate this DXRacer fad and hate how people can justify spending $500-$1000 every five or so years on a PC and phone but can't justify the same amount on a chair purchase for a lifetime.

DXRacer isn't available in Canada so no I haven't used it at all.


There's a limited number of dxracer models at memory express

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Search/Products?Search=dxracer

I know the richmond BC branch has a bunch out on display, not sure about the other locations. They're definitely not bad but sitting in them for 30s is a long way from sitting in them for 8 hours.


That's the cheap model and a chair without seat depth is... still considered shit by me no matter how much of everything else you have -.- No reason to buy that when I can go to Ikea or Staples to get basically the same thing with a significantly longer warranty and save on shipping charges.
Medivac
Profile Joined August 2012
United States15 Posts
June 27 2013 04:58 GMT
#249
I found a local guy selling a Herman Miller Ergon (not sure which version) at a good price. What do you guys think?

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KaoReal
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada340 Posts
June 27 2013 05:00 GMT
#250
I see 4 models - they're all the cheap one?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 27 2013 05:07 GMT
#251
The $330 D03 does not have seat depth adjustments so yes they're all cheap.
KaoReal
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada340 Posts
June 27 2013 05:12 GMT
#252
http://www.dxracer.net/art29_dxracer-chair-oh-d03-n.html
http://www.dxracer.net/art63_dxracer-chair-oh-d03-nr.html

Looks like 2 of the same chair, just different color. The specs have height-adjustable listed. I might be looking at the wrong chairs, but they're the only D03's I see on their site.
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Celeritas
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia52 Posts
June 27 2013 05:15 GMT
#253
Think of the DX Racers as the Beats heaphones of chairs; still a step up from the cheap entry-level stuff 90% of people use, but they're way too hyped up; you could get something much better quality in the same price range from a different brand. I got my Ergohuman V1 for ~AU$500, I'm sure it's more like $300-400 over in the US/Canada.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 27 2013 05:33 GMT
#254
On June 27 2013 14:12 KaoReal wrote:
http://www.dxracer.net/art29_dxracer-chair-oh-d03-n.html
http://www.dxracer.net/art63_dxracer-chair-oh-d03-nr.html

Looks like 2 of the same chair, just different color. The specs have height-adjustable listed. I might be looking at the wrong chairs, but they're the only D03's I see on their site.


I said seat depth, not height. Most office chairs, even the $30 ones are height adjustable.

Or do you not understand what seat depth is and that's why you're confusing it with height? It's the depth of the seat. If its too shallow then you won't have enough support for your thighs so it puts more pressure on your butt. Too deep then you won't have proper back support or you put pressure on the back of your knee.
KaoReal
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada340 Posts
June 27 2013 06:24 GMT
#255
On June 27 2013 14:33 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 14:12 KaoReal wrote:
http://www.dxracer.net/art29_dxracer-chair-oh-d03-n.html
http://www.dxracer.net/art63_dxracer-chair-oh-d03-nr.html

Looks like 2 of the same chair, just different color. The specs have height-adjustable listed. I might be looking at the wrong chairs, but they're the only D03's I see on their site.


I said seat depth, not height. Most office chairs, even the $30 ones are height adjustable.

Or do you not understand what seat depth is and that's why you're confusing it with height? It's the depth of the seat. If its too shallow then you won't have enough support for your thighs so it puts more pressure on your butt. Too deep then you won't have proper back support or you put pressure on the back of your knee.

Ah, that was my original understand of seat depth, but it didn't seem like a feasible part of the seat to be adjustable. I guess that's why the more expensive chairs are -- more expensive. What is optimal? Just barely not touching the crease of the knee?
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 06:28:36
June 27 2013 06:27 GMT
#256
whatever you guys buy if you play alot make sure you make an contract insurance !!!
Its also working vs "physiologic wearing away " sry for bad english but the dmg that happens from just using no material error where you have a garantuee.
I build a chair and got 2 new for free over time with this insurance !!!
its rly worth it if you use your chair alot !!

my chair:
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 27 2013 06:39 GMT
#257
On June 27 2013 15:24 KaoReal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 14:33 skyR wrote:
On June 27 2013 14:12 KaoReal wrote:
http://www.dxracer.net/art29_dxracer-chair-oh-d03-n.html
http://www.dxracer.net/art63_dxracer-chair-oh-d03-nr.html

Looks like 2 of the same chair, just different color. The specs have height-adjustable listed. I might be looking at the wrong chairs, but they're the only D03's I see on their site.


I said seat depth, not height. Most office chairs, even the $30 ones are height adjustable.

Or do you not understand what seat depth is and that's why you're confusing it with height? It's the depth of the seat. If its too shallow then you won't have enough support for your thighs so it puts more pressure on your butt. Too deep then you won't have proper back support or you put pressure on the back of your knee.

Ah, that was my original understand of seat depth, but it didn't seem like a feasible part of the seat to be adjustable. I guess that's why the more expensive chairs are -- more expensive. What is optimal? Just barely not touching the crease of the knee?


General guideline is that the distance between the back of your knee and the front of the seat should be the width of your four fingers (roughly three inches).
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 16:26:40
June 27 2013 15:44 GMT
#258
On June 26 2013 16:10 Medivac wrote:
I've had a ton of lower back pain from sitting lately. Anybody have any luck with a lumbar cushion? I sit for the majority of my 12 hour shifts at work, and I game a lot at home in a cheap chair.


Actually, like others have said, working out can definitely help with back and neck pain. As long as you don't way overdo it and try to lift way more than you're capable of, you can benefit a bunch from it.

Well I'm pretty convinced against dxracer now... As one other asked, is there a decent goto chair below 500$? I saw the ergohuman but I didn't like the look

Or are the Steelcase chairs really just that much higher quality? I can afford the leap, think (or gesture? That one looks cool to me) but I'm just wondering if the price increase is really worth it.

Edit: it seems like my limited research says the answer is no but I'm certainly still open to suggestions.
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csikos27
Profile Joined May 2011
United States135 Posts
June 27 2013 16:55 GMT
#259
I bought a Dxracer and love it, I broke my back two times and 95% of the chairs I sit on kill me

I don't really find that problem with this !

ObliviousNA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States535 Posts
June 27 2013 17:26 GMT
#260
Anyone know where I can try out the ergohuman v1/v2? Also, are there places that sell it refurbished/used/below msrp?
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Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
June 27 2013 17:49 GMT
#261
On June 26 2013 20:47 Rollin wrote:
Actually strengthening of the core muscles can help with back pain tremendously, especially if it comes from sitting down or posture related issues. Have you tried incorporating regular swimming into your schedule, that is absolutely amazing for back pain. Heavy weight lifting could potentially cause further damage though, as you say.


I sit in a chair most of the day, and doing basic core muscle exercises (e.g., http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/core-strength/SM00047) has definitely helped out my lower back. If you're sitting down most of the day, I highly, highly recommend you slice out half an hour out of each day to do these.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
June 27 2013 18:22 GMT
#262
On June 28 2013 02:49 Kambing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 20:47 Rollin wrote:
Actually strengthening of the core muscles can help with back pain tremendously, especially if it comes from sitting down or posture related issues. Have you tried incorporating regular swimming into your schedule, that is absolutely amazing for back pain. Heavy weight lifting could potentially cause further damage though, as you say.


I sit in a chair most of the day, and doing basic core muscle exercises (e.g., http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/core-strength/SM00047) has definitely helped out my lower back. If you're sitting down most of the day, I highly, highly recommend you slice out half an hour out of each day to do these.


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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 19:58:19
June 27 2013 19:58 GMT
#263
He has a closed parens at the end of his link. Just take it out and it works
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 20:33:40
June 27 2013 20:32 GMT
#264
On June 28 2013 00:44 Alryk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 16:10 Medivac wrote:
I've had a ton of lower back pain from sitting lately. Anybody have any luck with a lumbar cushion? I sit for the majority of my 12 hour shifts at work, and I game a lot at home in a cheap chair.


Actually, like others have said, working out can definitely help with back and neck pain. As long as you don't way overdo it and try to lift way more than you're capable of, you can benefit a bunch from it.

Well I'm pretty convinced against dxracer now... As one other asked, is there a decent goto chair below 500$? I saw the ergohuman but I didn't like the look

Or are the Steelcase chairs really just that much higher quality? I can afford the leap, think (or gesture? That one looks cool to me) but I'm just wondering if the price increase is really worth it.

Edit: it seems like my limited research says the answer is no but I'm certainly still open to suggestions.


Worth it over what?

The Leap isn't all that expensive, just saying. It's ~$900 regularly priced but Steelcase typically does 15% semi-annual sales twice a year and 10% holiday sales twice a year. They also offer free shipping both ways and have a lifetime warranty (with certain things like foam/fabric and mechanisms exempt, having a twelve year warranty instead). Their support is awesome but that should be a given for any of these companies (I would hope).

A basic Aeron costs less but that's because it lacks adjustable arms, adjustable lumbar, and tilt adjustments. When you add all of that in, it's practically the same price as a Leap. Plus you have to select an appropriate size chair for yourself which is a daunting task and means the chair is going to suck for other people different than you in size.

The Ergohuman is ~$700 with a lifetime warranty (certain things like foam are exempt, five year warranty).

A Humanscale Freedom is ~$1500 while their Liberty is ~$1200. Fifteen year warranty.

Knoll's ReGeneration is also another option but it costs about the same as the Leap and Aeron. Carries the typical twelve year warranty like the Aeron (and Steelcase).

There's also Teknion which is a Canadian company. Their AL3 is $2000+, their Contessa is $1500+, their Leap equivalent is ~$900. I wanted one but too much of a hassle to drive everywhere since they don't sell online )=

disclaimer: pricing and things may have changed over the years but that's what it was like when I was buying a chair
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
June 27 2013 23:26 GMT
#265
Wow thanks a ton for all of that. You have a leap V2 right? What are the main differences between it and a leap v1?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 23:38:01
June 27 2013 23:37 GMT
#266
Main differences would be that the V2 has better armrests, better back, and that the seat edge flex is automatic rather than manual.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
June 27 2013 23:43 GMT
#267
Great, thanks a ton skyr. You continue to rock :D
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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
July 10 2013 10:59 GMT
#268
Looks like Ergohuman is the way to go. Thanks a lot SkyR. Do you own one may I ask?

I actually wrote a lot earlier this year in this thread. But had exams. And no I did not buy a chair yet. And that's why I am back now.

I study all day. Basically. I'm in med school. Come home from lectures and seminars around 2pm then study until 8 or 9 pm. My neck has been aching because of this. I swim every 2nd day. This helps a lot actually. Especially to strengthen my back muscles. Aiming for the upper cervical region.

The problem I have had with most chairs is that the back is straight and or it does not have good lumbar support and usually the arms are not adjustable.

SkyR. Could you recommend an Ergohuman chair for me? I spend most of my time in a chair either studying or gaming with the few hours I can manage to take off my work.
Nacs
Profile Joined November 2010
United States35 Posts
July 10 2013 11:09 GMT
#269
Check this chair out. identical to dx racer but only $230

http://www.carid.com/garage-accessories/cipher-auto-cpa5001-series-office-racing-seat-10103480.html
Celeritas
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia52 Posts
July 10 2013 11:41 GMT
#270
On July 10 2013 19:59 llIH wrote:
Looks like Ergohuman is the way to go. Thanks a lot SkyR. Do you own one may I ask?

I actually wrote a lot earlier this year in this thread. But had exams. And no I did not buy a chair yet. And that's why I am back now.

I study all day. Basically. I'm in med school. Come home from lectures and seminars around 2pm then study until 8 or 9 pm. My neck has been aching because of this. I swim every 2nd day. This helps a lot actually. Especially to strengthen my back muscles. Aiming for the upper cervical region.

The problem I have had with most chairs is that the back is straight and or it does not have good lumbar support and usually the arms are not adjustable.

SkyR. Could you recommend an Ergohuman chair for me? I spend most of my time in a chair either studying or gaming with the few hours I can manage to take off my work.

Not to toot my own horn, but I did a review of the Ergohuman V1 back on page 12. It provides some great lumbar support, arms are adjustable, and it's just an all-round great chair. It depends whether you like mesh chairs or not though.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 10 2013 11:42 GMT
#271
On July 10 2013 19:59 llIH wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Looks like Ergohuman is the way to go. Thanks a lot SkyR. Do you own one may I ask?

I actually wrote a lot earlier this year in this thread. But had exams. And no I did not buy a chair yet. And that's why I am back now.

I study all day. Basically. I'm in med school. Come home from lectures and seminars around 2pm then study until 8 or 9 pm. My neck has been aching because of this. I swim every 2nd day. This helps a lot actually. Especially to strengthen my back muscles. Aiming for the upper cervical region.

The problem I have had with most chairs is that the back is straight and or it does not have good lumbar support and usually the arms are not adjustable.

SkyR. Could you recommend an Ergohuman chair for me? I spend most of my time in a chair either studying or gaming with the few hours I can manage to take off my work.


I have a Steelcase Leap.
buddahbrot
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany47 Posts
July 10 2013 12:37 GMT
#272
So after googling around for a bit I found a seller for used chairs here in Germany. I have the choice between a Herman Miller Aeron with Pellicle and height-adjustable armrests for around 600€, a fully loaded Herman Miller Mirra for 450€ and a Steelcase Leap v2 fully loaded for 400€. Judging from skyR's praise I'm almost set for the Leap, especially since it's even cheaper than the rest, problem is I don't have a way to test it beforehand, since all the Steelcase-dealers in my area don't have it in stock.

I've tried both Herman Millers and liked them a lot, very comfortable and adjustable plus I like the design better than the Leap's. Then again, 200€ just for the design seems a bit steep. Has anyone compared the Millers against the Leap directly and is able to point out the key differences between them? The Aeron and Mirra were both size B, and as far as I can tell there is only one size for the Leap, right?
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
July 10 2013 13:10 GMT
#273
I'm going to check out the Leap a little more. And thanks Celeritas. I read your review. I will definetly consider that one. But right now I am aiming towards Leap because I trust skyR more than anything right now :D
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 01:49:36
July 10 2013 14:44 GMT
#274
One key difference between the Aeron and Leap are their recline systems. Leap's is way better, not being bias or anything. It's actually a real recline where the seat slides forward as you recline allowing your feet and butt to stay leveled which allows you to work comfortably in a reclined position. You're also changing posture as you recline so this is good as sitting in the same position for a long time is not good for you. Aeron's is ... like a rocking chair where the seat and back always maintain a close to 90 degree angle and the armrests are attached to the back so they angle upwards as you recline, which is mildly annoying.

Aeron also does not have an adjustable seat depth and its armrests lack forward/backwards adjustment.

Also, this is ymmv. If you don't always sit with good posture then the Aeron might not be comfortable for you (eg. crossing your legs, sitting on your foot or just having your foot on the seat, etc).

Buy from somewhere with a good return policy as working / gaming for prolonged periods at your desk is very different than just sitting at the store doing nothing for a few minutes. Don't blindly buy a Leap with no return policy because of what I say -.-

Steelcase has a try it before you buy it in North America, free shipping both ways (may not be free for Canada) just so you know if you're considering it.

As for Ergohuman, not much to say since I never considered them after finding out that their shipping fee to Canada is ~$200 (Steelcase was $50) and they don't cover any shipping fees for RMA / exchange / refund.
Crosswind
Profile Joined May 2010
United States279 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 15:00:12
July 10 2013 14:59 GMT
#275
For what it's worth, appears to be a pretty glorious 4th of july sale going on here that (appears?) to still be going on: (http://www.madisonseating.com/last-call-summer-sale.html)

However, I have a broader question: I am a tall and thin guy, about 6'4", 170 lbs. I have the following problems with chairs:

1.) In most chairs, my legs form a <90 angle, because my knees end up higher than my ass. The distance from the soles of my feet to my knees is significantly longer than 20", which is about what most chairs offer.

2.) Standard lower and upper back support ends up in my ass/middle back, respectively.

...aaand, probably some other issues that are not as obvious to me. There are lots of sites out there for big + tall people. They do not work for me - I am, sadly, only tall. Having a giant wide chair is of no interest.

Some of you fine TL folk must have the same problem - what sort of chair would you recommend?

Thanks!

-Cross
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 15:19:47
July 10 2013 15:17 GMT
#276
Humanscales outfitted with a high cylinder have a height of somewhere around 30" and the Steelcase Leap Stool also has a height around there though your back problem may persist as their backs are .. not that high?
Crosswind
Profile Joined May 2010
United States279 Posts
July 10 2013 15:29 GMT
#277
On July 11 2013 00:17 skyR wrote:
Humanscales outfitted with a high cylinder have a height of somewhere around 30" and the Steelcase Leap Stool also has a height around there though your back problem may persist as their backs are .. not that high?


Thanks for the link to humanscales - it seems like you can indeed get a tall cylinder chair there...but none of the other dimensions of the chair change - such as where the back support is, etc.

Same with the steelcase stools - the back support there is still for normal-sized people, they're just expecting that their feet won't hit the ground.

Given that I'm unlikely to be able to find a reasonable sale on custom-made chairs, I'd like to make sure dang near everything is perfect - any chairs where the whole of them are designed for tall people?

-Cross
buddahbrot
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany47 Posts
July 10 2013 23:26 GMT
#278
On July 10 2013 23:44 skyR wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

One key difference between the Aeron and Leap are their recline systems. Leap's is way better, not being bias or anything. It's actually a real recline where the seat slides forward as you recline allowing your feet and butt to stay leveled which allows you to work comfortably in a reclined position. You're also changing posture as you recline so this is good as sitting in the same position for a long time is not good for you. Aeron's is ... like a rocking chair where the seat and back always maintain a 90 degree angle and the armrests are attached to the back so they angle upwards as you recline, which is mildly annoying.

Aeron also does not have an adjustable seat depth and its armrests lack forward/backwards adjustment.

Also, this is ymmv. If you don't always sit with good posture then the Aeron might not be comfortable for you (eg. crossing your legs, sitting on your foot or just having your foot on the seat, etc).

Buy from somewhere with a good return policy as working / gaming for prolonged periods at your desk is very different than just sitting at the store doing nothing for a few minutes. Don't blindly buy a Leap with no return policy because of what I say -.-

Steelcase has a try it before you buy it in North America, free shipping both ways (may not be free for Canada) just so you know if you're considering it.

As for Ergohuman, not much to say since I never considered them after finding out that their shipping fee to Canada is ~$200 (Steelcase was $50) and they don't cover any shipping fees for RMA / exchange / refund.


Well that about settles it for me. Thankfully there is a law here that requires every commercial seller online to accept returns within 14 days so there's that risk eliminated. The seat depth is something that bothers me with the current IKEA chair I use and while it was less pronounced on the Aeron I tried, having a fully adjustable one seems better to me.

Thanks again for your input skyR, I will report back when I receive mine
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 11 2013 05:41 GMT
#279
The one annoying thing with the Aeron is the hard plastic lip on the front of the chair. It can be annoying if the chair isnt adjusted to the right height since it puts pressure on the back of your leg. Unfortunately my desk is too high for my liking so the seat has to be a bit higher to compensate for that.
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tluu12
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada35 Posts
July 11 2013 05:50 GMT
#280
Not sure if it has been posted before, but Costco has some DXRacers for sale on their online store
http://www.costco.ca/Formula-Style-Black-Fabric-Office-Chair.product.100016393.html
http://www.costco.ca/Formula-Style-Black-%26-Red-Fabric-Office-Chair-.product.100016408.html
http://www.costco.ca/Formula-Style-Black-Office-Chair.product.100016409.html
http://www.costco.ca/Formula-Style-Black-%26-Red-Office-Chair.product.100016394.html

All prices include shipping via UPS, most likely for Canada only. I ordered mine and received it in 2 days. Definitely cheaper than going to the US NeedforSeat store and paying $99 for DHL shipping to Canada.
SFHyper
Profile Joined July 2013
United Kingdom45 Posts
July 11 2013 07:07 GMT
#281
Steelcase Leap is definitely what I would recommend, sturdy and mobile.. Comfy too!
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
July 11 2013 07:29 GMT
#282
Really like the look of the Leap but mixed reviews about the seat; some say it's comfortable, some say it's hard / too firm.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 08:59:48
July 11 2013 08:55 GMT
#283
if you are able to build simple things. Buy a old Car Seat and build a underground for it that the hight fits you. GG, comfort and Style far beyond this usual crap.

And ofc its so cheap. scrapyard sell them cheap, all you need is some wood, and clean it
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
July 11 2013 09:14 GMT
#284
On July 11 2013 17:55 tadL wrote:
if you are able to build simple things. Buy a old Car Seat and build a underground for it that the hight fits you. GG, comfort and Style far beyond this usual crap.

And ofc its so cheap. scrapyard sell them cheap, all you need is some wood, and clean it


As long as it doesn't end up like a DXRacer chair. So tired of the hyped "Dr. Dre ish" chairs. It doesn't make any sense to why they are supposed to be so good for you. The only thing I could say is that they got a lot of cushion.
DoubleAce
Profile Joined June 2009
United States108 Posts
July 11 2013 11:22 GMT
#285
Chair wise, you cant beat the rocker brand haha. My friend has This Rocker Chair in his living room to play GT5 and other games with. Felt like a massage chair to me when i sat on it haha.
kmpisces
Profile Joined July 2013
United States50 Posts
July 11 2013 11:28 GMT
#286
The car seat idea is a pretty good one. I think you could find a really comfortable seat. Sometimes they are in really great shape at a junk yard. I also think the Rocker Chairs look great. They seem as if they would really make it easy to move around to play games. Yet, they also look very cozy. I like to be comfortable.
qeMix
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany71 Posts
July 11 2013 11:47 GMT
#287
On July 10 2013 21:37 buddahbrot wrote:
So after googling around for a bit I found a seller for used chairs here in Germany. I have the choice between a Herman Miller Aeron with Pellicle and height-adjustable armrests for around 600€, a fully loaded Herman Miller Mirra for 450€ and a Steelcase Leap v2 fully loaded for 400€. Judging from skyR's praise I'm almost set for the Leap, especially since it's even cheaper than the rest, problem is I don't have a way to test it beforehand, since all the Steelcase-dealers in my area don't have it in stock.

I've tried both Herman Millers and liked them a lot, very comfortable and adjustable plus I like the design better than the Leap's. Then again, 200€ just for the design seems a bit steep. Has anyone compared the Millers against the Leap directly and is able to point out the key differences between them? The Aeron and Mirra were both size B, and as far as I can tell there is only one size for the Leap, right?

would you mind sharing info on the seller you found? currently i'm also torn between aeron, mirra and leap. i like the seat depth adjustment on the leap so i'm probably gonna go for that. wanted the aeron/mirra because of the mesh.
DoubleAce
Profile Joined June 2009
United States108 Posts
July 11 2013 14:02 GMT
#288
On July 11 2013 20:28 kmpisces wrote:
The car seat idea is a pretty good one. I think you could find a really comfortable seat. Sometimes they are in really great shape at a junk yard. I also think the Rocker Chairs look great. They seem as if they would really make it easy to move around to play games. Yet, they also look very cozy. I like to be comfortable.


They look great, but look even greater in person and feels like a big big massage chair.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
July 11 2013 14:23 GMT
#289
Mesh is very important imo. I doubt it will be cold inside a person's home that is gaming or studying. Rather the opposite.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
July 13 2013 14:22 GMT
#290
I was also looking at a fully loaded Leap V2 (Well, it has everything except headrest) but I can't try them anywhere locally either and I'm not sure if it'd be suitable for someone around 6'2 and about 210lbs.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
July 13 2013 15:10 GMT
#291
On July 13 2013 23:22 Mackem wrote:
I was also looking at a fully loaded Leap V2 (Well, it has everything except headrest) but I can't try them anywhere locally either and I'm not sure if it'd be suitable for someone around 6'2 and about 210lbs.


It would be very cool if there were headrests for them too. Awesome chair already. But same as you. I feel I need to see it or at least try it to be able to spend this kind of money.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 13 2013 16:51 GMT
#292
Leaps have optional headrest.

If you're in Europe, you probably shouldn't tunnel vision too heavily into the Steelcase Leap as you tend to have plenty of other options too from Klober, HAG, Okamura, etc.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
July 13 2013 18:07 GMT
#293
The Leap was more appealing because I can get it for £200 used.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 13 2013 18:30 GMT
#294
I've had my Dxracer for over a month now and I absolutely love it. I don't feel the chair anymore :D
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 13 2013 19:42 GMT
#295
I forgot that you're buying used. Leap's backrest is only 24" in height so it may not be all that comfortable for a tall individual.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
July 14 2013 16:58 GMT
#296
Klober, HAG, Okamura ? I am going to look into that before I do anything rush.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
July 14 2013 17:29 GMT
#297
On July 14 2013 04:42 skyR wrote:
I forgot that you're buying used. Leap's backrest is only 24" in height so it may not be all that comfortable for a tall individual.


Yeah, I'm finding it difficult to try and find something that will be suitable for £200, whether it be used or new.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
miniwheats
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada187 Posts
July 14 2013 17:36 GMT
#298
Can someone who has the DXracer tell me how the rocking is in it because I'm often rocking.
"Don't disturb my Circles!" -Archimedes
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 14 2013 18:06 GMT
#299
On July 15 2013 01:58 llIH wrote:
Klober, HAG, Okamura ? I am going to look into that before I do anything rush.


I'm making a chair thread so stay tuned -.^
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
July 14 2013 19:28 GMT
#300
On July 15 2013 03:06 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 01:58 llIH wrote:
Klober, HAG, Okamura ? I am going to look into that before I do anything rush.


I'm making a chair thread so stay tuned -.^


I'm ready! :D
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
July 14 2013 20:10 GMT
#301
On July 15 2013 03:06 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 01:58 llIH wrote:
Klober, HAG, Okamura ? I am going to look into that before I do anything rush.


I'm making a chair thread so stay tuned -.^


Ah cool, I'll keep an eye out. Make a bargains section for people like me that can't afford a £800 chair :D
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
July 14 2013 20:22 GMT
#302
On July 15 2013 05:10 Mackem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 03:06 skyR wrote:
On July 15 2013 01:58 llIH wrote:
Klober, HAG, Okamura ? I am going to look into that before I do anything rush.


I'm making a chair thread so stay tuned -.^


Ah cool, I'll keep an eye out. Make a bargains section for people like me that can't afford a £800 chair :D


And also hoping for a fact based non biased one. Especially regarding the DXRacer chairs.
RD20
Profile Joined July 2013
United States2 Posts
July 19 2013 01:04 GMT
#303
Also interested in any reviews on the dx racer if anyone has experience with it my current chair is kinda falling apart after less then a year rips developing in back and armrests if I tilt back feels like it going to go over no padding in the bottom ect.
For pony
Celeritas
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia52 Posts
July 19 2013 01:18 GMT
#304
On July 19 2013 10:04 RD20 wrote:
Also interested in any reviews on the dx racer if anyone has experience with it my current chair is kinda falling apart after less then a year rips developing in back and armrests if I tilt back feels like it going to go over no padding in the bottom ect.

I'd recommend checking out this thread. It covers everything you'd ever want to know about what to look for in a chair. Specifically, someone reviewed a DX Racer chair in the thread, on post 16. Hope this helps!
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
July 19 2013 01:50 GMT
#305
Locking this because we got THIS now: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=421457
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