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javy_
United States1677 Posts
Any other recommendations (<$250 with HDMI) are also welcome. Thanks! | ||
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Lipko
Hungary22 Posts
I am planning to buy a monitor to my notebook. I have a Radeon 5470 videocard and a 15,6" , 1366x768 notebook monitor. The main reason I am planning to buy a monitor because in the future I have to do a lot of 3D modelling (SolidWorks) and it is very inconvinient to work with a such small screen. Other than that I play many Sc2 and Dota2 occasionally. Sometimes other games which my notebook can run. Sc2 has a consistent 70 FPS with the notebook monitor and other games do fairly well also, somewhere between 30-40 FPS. I am thinking about buying a low-budget 21,5", 1920x1080 resolution monitor. My main question is how much the increased resolution will affect the FPS in games. Will I still be able to play at least Sc2 with a consistent FPS and enjoy it without noticable lags. I found the BenQ GW2250HM monitor which seems just right for me but I would like to get to know other monitors with same parameters and around the same price range around $150. Any help would be appreciated! Edit: because my notebook has a HDMI connection so it is preferred for the monitor to have a HDMI connector too. | ||
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
LG 22EA53VQ 22" IPS LED LCD HDMI Monitor http://www.ebuyer.com/466111-22ea53vq-22-ips-led-1920-1080-vga-dvi-hdmi-black-22ea53vq ive been using a 19inch dell 4:3 ratio monitor for 7-8 years and this is a pretty big investment for me so I want to make the right decision. Main use will be gaming, starcraft 2 ,darkfall | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On April 24 2013 20:52 javy_ wrote: + Show Spoiler + Can anyone help me decide between the ASUS VS247H-P, ASUS VS248H-P and ASUS VS239H-P? I'll be primarily using this monitor for gaming (CS and Dota2) as well as lots of reading of pdfs, typing of docs, and possibly coding. Any other recommendations (<$250 with HDMI) are also welcome. Thanks! First two should be decent TN monitors but nothing special. I can't even figure out what the difference is between the two other than 23.6" vs 24". I would not pick either of them over the VS239H-P (or the smaller VS229H-P, don't ignore it; same resolution, higher contrast, just slightly smaller size). Less than 250, you could pick up a Dell U2212HM (better than U2312HM to be honest), Asus VG23AH, BenQ GW2450HM... these are basically just options from the OP that fit your budget. I wouldn't personally pick the U22 or VS229/239 because I dislike the Anti-Glare when reading text but that's up to you. The VG23AH or BenQ or some other IPS model with lighter anti-glare is better IMO but YMMV On April 26 2013 21:12 Lipko wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hi guys! I am planning to buy a monitor to my notebook. I have a Radeon 5470 videocard and a 15,6" , 1366x768 notebook monitor. The main reason I am planning to buy a monitor because in the future I have to do a lot of 3D modelling (SolidWorks) and it is very inconvinient to work with a such small screen. Other than that I play many Sc2 and Dota2 occasionally. Sometimes other games which my notebook can run. Sc2 has a consistent 70 FPS with the notebook monitor and other games do fairly well also, somewhere between 30-40 FPS. I am thinking about buying a low-budget 21,5", 1920x1080 resolution monitor. My main question is how much the increased resolution will affect the FPS in games. Will I still be able to play at least Sc2 with a consistent FPS and enjoy it without noticable lags. I found the BenQ GW2250HM monitor which seems just right for me but I would like to get to know other monitors with same parameters and around the same price range around $150. Any help would be appreciated! Edit: because my notebook has a HDMI connection so it is preferred for the monitor to have a HDMI connector too. 1920x1080 is almost exactly double the pixels of 1366x768 (~2MP vs ~1MP) so you can expect all your frame rates to be cut into exactly half if using the same settings. Unfortunately for you, Mobile HD 5470 is pretty weak (about the same level as HD 3000 in Sandy Bridge chips). You could play at a lower non-native resolution, but the scaling might look bad. SC2 (probably Dota2 also) will still be playable @ 2MP with low settings, though. However, the monitor itself will probably be a huge improvement in picture quality compared to your laptop, so playing on low on the external monitor might actually be preferable to medium settings on the laptop. As far as choices go: not so sure how good the GW2250HM is. It should theoretically be decent but BenQ is known to deliver atrocious factory calibrations so I'm wary of recommending it without seeing a proper review. VS229H-P is good (very matte IPS), or maybe that new Acer H226HQL (glossy IPS). | ||
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Salient
United States876 Posts
1. Acer H236HLbid Black 23" 5ms (GTG) D-Sub, DVI, HDMI inputs LED Backlight LCD Monitor IPS Panel (6-bit?) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 2. BenQ GW2450 Glossy Black 24" 4ms (GTG) D-Sub, DVI inputs, does not have HDMI LED Backlight LCD Monitor VA Panel http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 3. Asus VH238H Black 23" 2ms (GTG) D-Sub, DVI-D, HDMI inputs LED Backlight LCD Monitor TN Panel http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... | ||
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Max2Air
Germany92 Posts
Being almost the same price Im asking myself: Why not go for its bigger brother the VS239H. Is it really the same monitor just a little bit bigger? You guys are awesome btw.. =) €: Just realized my question was pretty much answered like 3 posts before -.- I would not pick either of them over the VS239H-P (or the smaller VS229H-P, don't ignore it; same resolution, higher contrast, just slightly smaller size). So what is the "advantage" of having the same resolution with a smaller screen? (Im a monitor noob..) | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On May 06 2013 21:53 Salient wrote: Which of these 3 monitors would be best for a gaming rig? + Show Spoiler + 1. Acer H236HLbid Black 23" 5ms (GTG) D-Sub, DVI, HDMI inputs LED Backlight LCD Monitor IPS Panel (6-bit?) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 2. BenQ GW2450 Glossy Black 24" 4ms (GTG) D-Sub, DVI inputs, does not have HDMI LED Backlight LCD Monitor VA Panel http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 3. Asus VH238H Black 23" 2ms (GTG) D-Sub, DVI-D, HDMI inputs LED Backlight LCD Monitor TN Panel http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Depends on what you want, what you're playing, what you notice. The H236HLbid should have the best uniformity of colors between top and bottom of the screen especially, when viewing from any position (especially relatively close), possibly the best out-of-box colors overall? I don't know much about Acer's IPS offerings. The GW2450 should have by far the best contrast so deepest blacks, but this model I think doesn't even have adjustable overdrive, so I think the setting (that can't be changed) could be on the one that produces excessive ghosting if they're claiming 4 ms GTG. The VH238H should have the best pixel responsiveness easily, so the least motion blurring. On May 06 2013 23:11 Max2Air wrote: + Show Spoiler + So im kinda ebarassed to even be asking this but being on a small budged reading the last 10 or so pages and the OP the Asus VS229HVS229H jumped out to me. Being almost the same price Im asking myself: Why not go for its bigger brother the VS239H. Is it really the same monitor just a little bit bigger? You guys are awesome btw.. =) €: Just realized my question was pretty much answered like 3 posts before -.- I would not pick either of them over the VS239H-P (or the smaller VS229H-P, don't ignore it; same resolution, higher contrast, just slightly smaller size). So what is the "advantage" of having the same resolution with a smaller screen? (Im a monitor noob..) In EU you guys don't get VS239H-P and VS229H-P, as far as I know. The VS239H and VS229H differ in not having the Asus "Trace Free" setting, unlike the -P models, so they have really slow pixel response times, so motion blurring. prad.de has reviews on them. Same resolution with smaller screen means higher pixel density, which means smaller pixels. If you're sitting close enough to kind of see individual pixels, it could look crisper. Also, at a given viewing distance, you can see more pixels (thus more information) in your field of view and also in your main focus. However, larger sizes may be considered easier to read and also more immersive. That said, when looking at two particular monitors, there are further differences in addition to the generalities above. I think the monitors with LG-sourced eIPS panels at 21.5" and 23.6" share some similarities; a pattern has emerged. It seems like the 21.5" models usually have a little bit better contrast and maybe a little bit better motion performance as well. It's not a big deal anyhow, and many or most people would prefer the larger option. | ||
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Max2Air
Germany92 Posts
Thanks for the lightning quick response :D €: Seems like the 23 has slightly more motion blur than the 22 according to prad. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Some might even say that the antiglare on those (and most of the IPS options that aren't the glossy models) is so strong that they're not so good for text writing, as the whites can be noticeably rainbow'd out, blurry. Maybe LG IPS235P (not IPS235V): http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-lg-ips235p-teil8.html#Reaktionsverhalten http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2011/test-lg-ips235v-teil8.html#Reaktionsverhalten http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p785086_23Zoll--58-42cm--LG-Electronics-Flatron-IPS235P-schwarz-1920x1080-1xHDMI-1-3-1xVGA-1xDVI.html | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On May 06 2013 23:29 Myrmidon wrote: + Show Spoiler + In EU you guys don't get VS239H-P and VS229H-P, as far as I know. The VS239H and VS229H differ in not having the Asus "Trace Free" setting, unlike the -P models, so they have really slow pixel response times, so motion blurring. prad.de has reviews on them. For reasons that I cannot comprehend (possibly just to confuse customers even more by having more meaningless model names), in Europe, Asus has the VS229HR and VS239HR instead of the -P models. I checked their product pages and they don't mention "Trace Free" but they do list a response time of "5ms" which indicates they have overdrive, except it's probably not adjustable [or maybe it is, I don't recall going through the PDF manual]. If it's not, most likely they set it to the equivalent of TF 40 or 60 so it should be perfectly fine. EDIT: It seems you noticed it too, somehow missed that in your other post. whoops Related anecdote: + Show Spoiler + I recall Womwomwom lamenting about this same thing, how Asus apparently didn't offer the overdrive-enabled VS IPS monitors on the Euro market. Said something along the lines of "Why? Asus doesn't like money, I guess" - gets a chuckle out of me every time. | ||
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lantz
United States762 Posts
Is the HP 23xi IPS monitor okay for gaming? I know it is only 60hz but it seems all IPS are lower hz? Thanks in advance!! | ||
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Max2Air
Germany92 Posts
Input lag is the time in milliseconds it takes from your input to be shown on the screen. In the OP at the top is a great explanation about that. And yes most IPS monitors are only 60hz. From what I understand though, as long as you are not a Pro Quake or CS player it does not really matter for gaming, as long as you get a reasonable fast IPS. | ||
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Uhh Negative
United States1090 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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comeau3
Canada2 Posts
I only play games on my comp with a bit of web browsing, no competitive gaming or anything special. Got the usual 3570k and GTX 670 in my new PC I know there's a debate about IPS vs TN for gaming so I am kinda lost on what monitor would be the price. I was looking at the usual Dell U2312HM, but it's pretty much on the higher end of the budget I wanna spend. I am also looking at a couple of Asus monitors, but I reallllly can't make out which one would be better for me. The ones I'm looking at are the [VS239H] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236288) [VX238h] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236305) [VS248h] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236153) [VG23AH] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236262) [VN247h-p http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236307&nm_mc=AFC-C8junctionCA&cm_mmc=AFC-C8JunctionCA-_-Monitors - LCD Flat Panel-_-ASUS-_-24236307&AID=10592396&PID=3938566) Thanks for any input I`m open to other suggestions as well | ||
Womwomwom
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comeau3
Canada2 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
If you're willing to up the budget by around $100, these 2560x1440 27" monitors are a very viable option, especially since you have the horsepower. | ||
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
On May 09 2013 23:17 skyR wrote: Some of the sale prices Dell has on their Canadian site are pretty crazy. I got my U2312HM over a year and a half ago for $189 and that was just after it came out. Now they have the U2412M on for $110 off, so like $259. I am incredibly tempted to buy that. Though I still have to decide between that and a 27" Korean monitor (I'm looking at the X-Star DP2710 PLS monitor. A local computer store actually imports these and the Achievas and sells them for a slight mark-up so I can at least check them out since they have a display model. They only sell pixel perfect monitors too and let you check before you buy).Dell doesn't put the U2312HM on sale much in the state so I think $190 is pretty good. The lowest it's been in Canada is $179 iirc but sales are often around $190. The things that are making me more lean toward getting the Dell are that my video card may have trouble running games at 2560x1440 (I have a Radeon 6950 2GB. I do not want to upgrade it. It runs everything great at 1920x1080), and that to run my 15" Macbook Pro on it I will have to get a dual-link DVI connector, which are not exactly cheap, even on Monoprice. Plus there's the space issue. I can fit 3 monitors on my desk if I get a U2412M. With a 27" monitor, I will be lucky to fit 2. I already have the means to connect 3 monitors if I want (active DVI to DP connector). Decisions, decisions. | ||
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pinnacle
United States86 Posts
On April 24 2013 20:52 javy_ wrote: Can anyone help me decide between the ASUS VS247H-P, ASUS VS248H-P and ASUS VS239H-P? I'll be primarily using this monitor for gaming (CS and Dota2) as well as lots of reading of pdfs, typing of docs, and possibly coding. Any other recommendations (<$250 with HDMI) are also welcome. Thanks! I have the VS239H-P and it works great (I mostly play CS:GO). IPS really makes things look more vibrant. | ||
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