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Hi.
I am looking for a small, preferrably tiny claw-grip style mouse. I'm currently using the Razer Salmosa (asian edition) which is perfect except that it only has 1800 dpi which is too slow for me. I'm thinking 3000 dpi or higher would suffice.
Any ideas?
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Well, I'm a palm user, but I guess the Razer Diamondback or Abyssus might fit for your claw style. If you want a really small mouse, some pros use the logitech mini-wireless line. EDIT: You might fancy the Razer Orochi, too.
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On October 07 2011 22:20 fencer wrote: Hi.
I am looking for a small, preferrably tiny claw-grip style mouse. I'm currently using the Razer Salmosa (asian edition) which is perfect except that it only has 1800 dpi which is too slow for me. I'm thinking 3000 dpi or higher would suffice.
Any ideas?
I have a Razer abyssus, and it can go up to 3500 DPI No correction, and it's pretty small, although, maybe not quite as small as the "asian" edition for the Salmosa.
Still basically the same mouse though
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On October 07 2011 22:20 fencer wrote: Hi.
I am looking for a small, preferrably tiny claw-grip style mouse. I'm currently using the Razer Salmosa (asian edition) which is perfect except that it only has 1800 dpi which is too slow for me. I'm thinking 3000 dpi or higher would suffice.
Any ideas?
1800dpi is too slow? Are you using 6/11 with acceleration off?
I have a 45x40cm mousemat, and i play fine at 400dpi. It is considered low, but 1800 feels so fast to me that it is impossible to micro at a decent level, or hit anything accuratly in a very short amount of time
On the subject of what mouse to buy, take a look at the Coolermaster Storm Spawn, it has the best mouse sensor avalible atm and it has a "weird" claw grip shape that i have heard works really well
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On October 07 2011 22:20 fencer wrote: Hi.
I am looking for a small, preferrably tiny claw-grip style mouse. I'm currently using the Razer Salmosa (asian edition) which is perfect except that it only has 1800 dpi which is too slow for me. I'm thinking 3000 dpi or higher would suffice.
Any ideas? I have both the Abyssus and the Salmosa, and in my opinion Abyssus is the exact same except with 3500 DPI and a more comfortable design and less noisy clicking. Definitely would recommend.
On October 07 2011 22:40 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2011 22:20 fencer wrote: Hi.
I am looking for a small, preferrably tiny claw-grip style mouse. I'm currently using the Razer Salmosa (asian edition) which is perfect except that it only has 1800 dpi which is too slow for me. I'm thinking 3000 dpi or higher would suffice.
Any ideas? 1800dpi is too slow? Are you using 6/11 with acceleration off? I have a 45x40cm mousemat, and i play fine at 400dpi. It is considered low, but 1800 feels so fast to me that it is impossible to micro at a decent level, or hit anything accuratly in a very short amount of time On the subject of what mouse to buy, take a look at the Coolermaster Storm Spawn, it has the best mouse sensor avalible atm and it has a "weird" claw grip shape that i have heard works really well 1800 DPI too slow for me as well with 6/11 acceleration off and with everything maxed in salmosa drivers.
My mouse moves 0.5 inches when I move my cursor from the left side of the screen to the right side of my 21" 1080p monitor, and yes it's perfectly possible to click rapidly and accurately like this.
Btw if you play at like 300 APM with 450DPI for 5 hours or so a day, say hi to carpal tunnel.
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Yeah, lower DPIs are more for FPS, where you don't need to move your mouse over the screen so much. It's all about getting used to the higher DPIs. At first you'll notice some loss of accuracy, but in a day or two of playing should enhance your mousing skills. And you avoid CTS, too.
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The reason i use 400-800dpi in the first place is to avoid CTS. I play 30-40 hours with only food breaks quite often and 2k+ was giving me massive wrist pain after a while.
Getting used to high DPI doesnt help anything, you still cant click shit.
@400dpi, i can click on my nexus, then mineral patch 1, then nexus, then patch 2, then nexus, then patch 3, through all 8 patches in less than 2-3 seconds
Since switching from 3.2k dpi to 400 for starcraft, i went from lvl 14 to 24 on the marine split challenge custom map and fixed all the wrist issues i had from using mouse.
When i play for a very long time i use 800dpi, but i am much faster and more accurate with 400
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On October 08 2011 14:04 Cyro wrote: The reason i use 400-800dpi in the first place is to avoid CTS. I play 30-40 hours with only food breaks quite often and 2k+ was giving me massive wrist pain after a while.
Getting used to high DPI doesnt help anything, you still cant click shit.
@400dpi, i can click on my nexus, then mineral patch 1, then nexus, then patch 2, then nexus, then patch 3, through all 8 patches in less than 2-3 seconds
Since switching from 3.2k dpi to 400 for starcraft, i went from lvl 14 to 24 on the marine split challenge custom map and fixed all the wrist issues i had from using mouse.
When i play for a very long time i use 800dpi, but i am much faster and more accurate with 400
I am curious, why does playing with a lower dpi strain your wrist more? Intuitively it seems that having a smaller range of motion higher dpis should limit wrist injuries, not exacerbate them.
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CM storm spawn is probably the best claw mouse on the market. Has the updated version of the sensor in the deathadder. This means no acceleration (something you wont find in any laser mouse). It's damn cheap too, $35 canadian.
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys, will be looking into them one by one.
And yeah, 1800 dpi on 6/10 is too slow for me even in BW with it's tiny resolution, not to mention other applications.
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On October 08 2011 14:10 lariat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 14:04 Cyro wrote: The reason i use 400-800dpi in the first place is to avoid CTS. I play 30-40 hours with only food breaks quite often and 2k+ was giving me massive wrist pain after a while.
Getting used to high DPI doesnt help anything, you still cant click shit.
@400dpi, i can click on my nexus, then mineral patch 1, then nexus, then patch 2, then nexus, then patch 3, through all 8 patches in less than 2-3 seconds
Since switching from 3.2k dpi to 400 for starcraft, i went from lvl 14 to 24 on the marine split challenge custom map and fixed all the wrist issues i had from using mouse.
When i play for a very long time i use 800dpi, but i am much faster and more accurate with 400 I am curious, why does playing with a lower dpi strain your wrist more? Intuitively it seems that having a smaller range of motion higher dpis should limit wrist injuries, not exacerbate them.
Moving like 0.1 inches back and forth and back and forth a lot builds up a lot of tension in the wrist, playing at far lower sens allows you to throw your hand/arm around a lot and you are moving with your arm as well instead of 100% focus on that 1 wrist area
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On October 08 2011 14:51 Phayze wrote: CM storm spawn is probably the best claw mouse on the market. Has the updated version of the sensor in the deathadder. This means no acceleration (something you wont find in any laser mouse). It's damn cheap too, $35 canadian.
Damnit, its £32 here... exchange rates gah
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Did you check out the razor orochi? I had the exact same needs as you and I find it perfect, very small, great quality and has way more dpi then you'll ever need.
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Zowie mico. Its a smaller mouse made for claw/finter tip grips. Got mine a few days ago, I love it.
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I got a Logitech G9x recently. It's small, perhaps not quite as small as the Salmosa, but it's a good smallish claw/fingertip grip mouse. It's very configurable (comes with a choice of two shells, and extra weights, as well as the usual configurable with buttons etc). It feels great to use (though some people with large hands disagree). And, unlike my old Copperhead, the nonstandard buttons (those ones that aren't left/right/middle click) are very hard to accidentally press - that might be a plus if you're coming from a mouse with no fourth or subsequent buttons, like the Samosa. The mouse also feels a lot more solid and less flimsy than my Copperhead (whose left clicker started wearing out after about a year of use). Also, you can set the G9X to absolutely ridiculous DPI settings, if you're crazy enough to want them, which you seem to be.
Cons: Middle mouse button is a tad stuff Software support for non-Windows users is almost nonexistent The sensor does exhibit a small amount of unswitchable-offable acceleration, but it's hardly noticeable for most people, unless you're looking for it, which I did. I probably shouldn't have! It's not cheap.
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I'm now choosing between the CM Storm Spawn and the Abyssus, seeing how they're both small and share the same good sensor. Seems like the Abyssus is lighter. Anyone know of a good reason to pick one over the other?
Aim Here: thanks, but I already own a G9 and it just wasn't for me.
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More like playing marine split challenge made you better. Best for your wrists and best for your micro does not go hand in hand.
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Before I switched from the Orochi to the Xai, I was pretty happy with the former.
It was a tad too small for my big hands though. But if you're looking for a nice, small mouse, it does fine.
Do note that it comes with a short cable. One of the reasons I decided to switch when I bought a new rig (and thus finally retiring my old notebook)
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Another vote for the CM Storm Spawn here. It needs tweaking out of the box and you'll want to load the proper firmware for your mouse pad (ie. v32 for a black cloth surface etc.) but now that I've got it all configured the way I like it, I prefer it over my g9x and Xai. I have an Abyssus too, but I really like having side buttons so I can use push-to-talk over Mumble or Ventrilo.
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