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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 15 2011 20:56 GMT
#121
Still not possible.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 15 2011 20:59 GMT
#122
On October 16 2011 05:49 RaKooNs wrote:
no eyefinity, just sc2 on 1 screen and 2 other screens for other stuff.

What I don't understand is that you could get an entire computer for 700-750$ that actually could run SC2 at over 60 FPS for the entirity of a 1v1 and at 100+ fps for plenty of the time WHILE streaming, but you're willing to spend 6000 more for the 40 extra FPS at all times.

Seems like very poor value for money. I suggest you wait until ivybridge and save 6000$
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
SiLeNtDeViL
Profile Joined November 2010
United States28 Posts
October 15 2011 21:23 GMT
#123
First off this is a great thread, and as I am considering building an affordable PC in the near future, I greatly appreciate it.

Now, considering the 663$ and the 800$ builds since that would be around my price range, could you discuss the benefits of the upgrades (the better video card etc.)?

Also if cooling / noise was a concern, what would you recommend for additional cooling fans or heat sinks?

As a little background, I built my last PC in early 2005 for about 1200$ and have only upgraded the video card / psu since to be able to run SC2. So a real computer upgrade is definitely in order.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 21:30:33
October 15 2011 21:29 GMT
#124
If noise is a problem then first of all you want to specifically select quiet CPU coolers and a silent case like Fractal Design Define R3 or Shinobi with the noiseblockers, and then you also want a graphics card with a quiet fan and an efficient cooler and also an SSD with 5400 rpm drives for storage would be advisable.

Improvements are basically more comfortable use with better case, larger HDD, more RAM, better graphics card so basically the 800$ build would be much more comfortable and so on without being as bare-cut with just performance in mind. They're just examples so there might still be unnecessary stuff but I tried to make them so that they would still waste quite little money on useless things.


If you want, I could give you a quiet example build if you tell me what you're looking to do with it and what the budget is
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
SiLeNtDeViL
Profile Joined November 2010
United States28 Posts
October 15 2011 21:48 GMT
#125
OK sounds great.

I think my budget would be around 800$. I would be looking to play D3 and SC2 mainly, and would like a reasonable ability to play upcoming games on medium or so without a problem.

As far as noise goes, I'm not sure what good benchmarks to compare are, my current PC is just rather noisy and running a bit hot for my taste, so I would be looking for a rather quiet and rather cool machine.

I even looked into mineral oil cooled PC's for kicks, but I'm not sure I could toss a bunch of money for nice components into a machine that might only work for a little while.

Also what monitors / TV's would you recommend pairing this computer with?

Appreciate any feedback.
RaKooNs
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom397 Posts
October 15 2011 21:51 GMT
#126
On October 16 2011 05:59 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 05:49 RaKooNs wrote:
no eyefinity, just sc2 on 1 screen and 2 other screens for other stuff.

What I don't understand is that you could get an entire computer for 700-750$ that actually could run SC2 at over 60 FPS for the entirity of a 1v1 and at 100+ fps for plenty of the time WHILE streaming, but you're willing to spend 6000 more for the 40 extra FPS at all times.

Seems like very poor value for money. I suggest you wait until ivybridge and save 6000$


I can easily tell the difference between 60 fps and 100 fps, i have a very good rig and can only play at low settings because of this attention to detail, i find it incredibly frustrating when my clicks / commands are not instant. I also would like this kind of smoothness with extreme, i guess the "streaming at 1080p" is not completely necessary... But i have a pretty much unlimited budget and it could be worth it for me to get this. despite spending a lot more, i will follow your advice and wait until ivybridge.
If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow - SlayerS_MMA
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 22:52:06
October 15 2011 22:51 GMT
#127
On October 16 2011 06:48 SiLeNtDeViL wrote:
OK sounds great.

I think my budget would be around 800$. I would be looking to play D3 and SC2 mainly, and would like a reasonable ability to play upcoming games on medium or so without a problem.

As far as noise goes, I'm not sure what good benchmarks to compare are, my current PC is just rather noisy and running a bit hot for my taste, so I would be looking for a rather quiet and rather cool machine.

I even looked into mineral oil cooled PC's for kicks, but I'm not sure I could toss a bunch of money for nice components into a machine that might only work for a little while.

Also what monitors / TV's would you recommend pairing this computer with?

Appreciate any feedback.

Well a 23-24" 1080p monitor would probably be recommended

Actually I'm not sure what to get as the case because USA has such lame, poor selection of budget silent cases it seems. -.- P183 is 130$ and that's way over your budget and there's no Shinobi or Define R3. hmhm

On October 16 2011 06:51 RaKooNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 05:59 Shikyo wrote:
On October 16 2011 05:49 RaKooNs wrote:
no eyefinity, just sc2 on 1 screen and 2 other screens for other stuff.

What I don't understand is that you could get an entire computer for 700-750$ that actually could run SC2 at over 60 FPS for the entirity of a 1v1 and at 100+ fps for plenty of the time WHILE streaming, but you're willing to spend 6000 more for the 40 extra FPS at all times.

Seems like very poor value for money. I suggest you wait until ivybridge and save 6000$


I can easily tell the difference between 60 fps and 100 fps, i have a very good rig and can only play at low settings because of this attention to detail, i find it incredibly frustrating when my clicks / commands are not instant. I also would like this kind of smoothness with extreme, i guess the "streaming at 1080p" is not completely necessary... But i have a pretty much unlimited budget and it could be worth it for me to get this. despite spending a lot more, i will follow your advice and wait until ivybridge.

Just overclock a 2500k or 2600k and turn some ultra CPU settings down to like high, you'll easily break 100 FPS and probably won't even notice the settings are missing.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
October 15 2011 23:52 GMT
#128
Budget and quiet don't go together that's why. Someone has to pay for the thick steel and polycarbonate material. You get what you pay for, and in the case of the Define R3, you get a case that borrows a lot of ideas from Antec's Performance One series, and goes cheap on a lot of the materials all round.

Americans can buy the Define R3 on Newegg for $110. When its only $20 cheaper than the P183, I'm not sure why you wouldn't pick the Antec. It nets you better construction, better door design and better hard drive grommits.

Shinobi is a v. bad idea if you are going to have mechanical hard disks in there . I shouldn't need to say why.

Quiet computing is just this in a nutshell:
- Thick construction to dampen sound
- Good hard drive mounting systems that minimize contact with metal (so gooey silicon grommits in Antec cases are great)
- Low number of holes for sound to escape from

Any case with these features can be "quiet". What's important is how much noise the parts inside make. If you are going SLI, no case (Silverstone RV02-E/FT02 do it better) is going to make that quiet, for instance.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
October 16 2011 13:31 GMT
#129
Whats the difference between the BIOSTAR H61MLC and the H61MGC, besides the $5 price difference?
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
October 16 2011 14:38 GMT
#130
Judging from the specifications the H61MGC seems to have an dvi connector and a different Ethernet controller. Otherwise they seem to be the same.
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 22:13:35
October 16 2011 22:00 GMT
#131
While watching mlg it seems to be taking up memory on my ssd, it keeps on eating up more and more, how do i change it to the overwrite thing? How do i also change the location of this so i can use put it on my harddrive


Oooo i found it.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
SiLeNtDeViL
Profile Joined November 2010
United States28 Posts
October 18 2011 18:23 GMT
#132
Compatibility question for the 663$: it appears that the MSI motherboard is a PCI 2.0 express and the PowerColor AX6870 is a PCI 2.1 express. Wouldn't this be a problem? Is there another graphics card you would recommend besides the gigabite one, since it sounds like that one can have lots of problems.

How does the EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB stack up do you think?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604
Its a bit more than the gigabite, but not too much.

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 18 2011 18:26 GMT
#133
2.1 and 2.0 are backwards and forward compatible. You can pick any GTX 560 Ti you want, that particular EVGA model offers lifetime warranty.
RaKooNs
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom397 Posts
October 19 2011 17:45 GMT
#134
This thread needs some more love, great writeup with great help.
If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow - SlayerS_MMA
hawliet
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Mexico112 Posts
October 26 2011 04:15 GMT
#135
this is awesome :DDD finally i can build my own computer :D
If you think you are good enough, you should presume what you want.- Naniwa
mikell
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia352 Posts
October 26 2011 07:37 GMT
#136
i really don't like the supercheap motherboards, some of them have very old NICs and SATA controllers are generally outdated. some have issues with newer hardware and also have bad responses to SSD drives if you want them.
drone hard
thane
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States407 Posts
October 26 2011 13:42 GMT
#137
I recently built an i7 sandybridge system for about $900 usd and I was wondering why the i5. Is it just cost so you can spend more on other components?
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 13:58:29
October 26 2011 13:52 GMT
#138
On October 26 2011 22:42 thane wrote:
I recently built an i7 sandybridge system for about $900 usd and I was wondering why the i5. Is it just cost so you can spend more on other components?


Mainly because the i7 have little to no benefit over the i5 when it comes to gaming so it's an unneccesary cost for a lot of people. It certainly have it uses for video editing, streaming (I've heard) and such but the price difference between an i5-2500k and a i7-2600k is hard to justify if it's a pure gaming build. This is mainly from the fact that most of todays games don't utilize more than 2 cores or 4 at most. So to you question, yes, spending it on a better gpu, a ssd or something of the kind would probably give you better performance for the money.
thane
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States407 Posts
October 26 2011 14:11 GMT
#139
On October 26 2011 22:52 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 22:42 thane wrote:
I recently built an i7 sandybridge system for about $900 usd and I was wondering why the i5. Is it just cost so you can spend more on other components?


Mainly because the i7 have little to no benefit over the i5 when it comes to gaming so it's an unneccesary cost for a lot of people. It certainly have it uses for video editing, streaming (I've heard) and such but the price difference between an i5-2500k and a i7-2600k is hard to justify if it's a pure gaming build. This is mainly from the fact that most of todays games don't utilize more than 2 cores or 4 at most. So to you question, yes, spending it on a better gpu, a ssd or something of the kind would probably give you better performance for the money.


Thats what I figured I havent actually built it I should have said priced it out. I want to stream with it though so I figured the 2600k would be better for that.
Puph
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
October 26 2011 14:38 GMT
#140
Helllooo dream thread!
Intel Dual Core 4400 @ ~2.00GHz / 2046MB RAM / 256 MB ATI Radeon x1300PRO
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