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BRockStar
Profile Joined April 2013
United States4 Posts
April 02 2013 17:11 GMT
#101
Hello guys,

I was wondering if any of you would be able to tell me if the computer specs below would be sufficient to run SC2 on ultra settings in 2v2 200/200 units per person on screen, while mainining +60 fps.

I had a terrible experience buying a gaming rig a couple years back and never got the performance I needed to play the games I want . If anything, I'd rather overspend. Thank you for any feedback.

Looking at the Alienware X51... I'm not considering building a pc or buying from a vendor like ibuypower or cyberpower. I really just want the thing to work flawlessly right out of the box.

3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i5-3330 (6M Cache, up to 3.0 GHz)
8GB (2 X 4GB) Dual Channel DDR3
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 660 1.5GB GDDR5


Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 17:21:18
April 02 2013 17:15 GMT
#102
I was wondering if any of you would be able to tell me if the computer specs below would be sufficient to run SC2 on ultra settings in 2v2 200/200 units per person on screen, while mainining +60 fps.


Well if you get a 3570k and take a few weeks crash course on extreme overclocking you might make 30fps minimums. You'd have to build it yourself and get lucky on the silicon lottery though =P

You're looking at 10-25fps minimums in real world 2v2 800 supply with any stock CPU with physics and effects up, depending on the types of units etc (max zergling will murder cpu more than max thors) and you can increase that by about 50-80% by disabling physics and lowering effects to low/medium but holding FPS >60 is flat out impossible on current hardware. Dont pay thousands for a 6-core intel cpu, It doesn't help.

You wont get a good deal on an Alienware desktop either, they charge $150 for 8gb of 1600mhz RAM, rofl

$950 for a gtx660, i5 3330 (3ghz) shitty motherboard, shitty psu (330w - no specs listed) no overclockability etc, just not any kind of good value for sc2. I mean you can shave $300 off, get an overclockable build (i5 3570k, good z77 board), quality parts, and run the game at 1.5x+ the minimum framerates cause you don't need a 660 and everything else is price gouged
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 17:20:17
April 02 2013 17:18 GMT
#103
Buying an alienware doesn't guarantee it's going to be more likely to "work straight out of the box" compared to boutiques like cyper and ibuy. It just means you pay through the ass for an even more retarded looking case.

Paying more money for identical items doesn't make them somehow better.

For the record my 2500k at 4.4gHz doesn't even do 60fps constantly 1v1's, of course you're not going to be able to maintain 60fps in 2v2s on something with ~65-70% of the performance...
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BRockStar
Profile Joined April 2013
United States4 Posts
April 02 2013 17:22 GMT
#104
Thanks for the quick reply!!

The computer with the specs that I listed in my post above will run me right at ~$1,000. That doesn't seem too unreasonable, no?

I guess what I'm looking for is to be able to play the game on high/ultra setting while maintaining a smooth fps. I typically play 2v2 and occasionally 1v1.

Do you think these specs will accomplish that for me?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 17:35:56
April 02 2013 17:34 GMT
#105
CPU i5-3570k ($220)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

Mobo: Gigabyte z77x-ud3h ($140)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128544

CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Gaia ($20)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082&Tpk=xigmatek gaia&IsVirtualParent=1

Video Card: Gigabyte 7970 ($400)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125413

RAM: 2x4gb G.Skill RAM ($57)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57953&vpn=F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL&manufacture=G.Skill

Case: Fractal Design R4 ($90)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75050&vpn=FD-CA-DEF-R4-WH&manufacture=Fractal Design&promoid=1334

PSU: XFX Core 650w ($83)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59616&vpn=P1650SNLB9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1334

SSD: Samsung 840 250gb ($160)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77211&vpn=MZ-7TD250BW&manufacture=Samsung Memory & Storage&promoid=1334

HDD: Seagate 2tb ($90)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66010&vpn=ST2000DM001&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1334

DVD-burner. $(18)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151256


This is an example build that was posted in the computer build resource thread a little while ago, it's ~$1100. The CPU will easily run 50% faster than yours, the GPU 20-30%+, it includes a 250gb SSD, a 2tb hard drive, good RAM, board, PSU etc. You know what you are buying. It's more of an all-round powerhouse build, flagship cpu, flagship GPU etc.

For an sc2 system in particular, you can go with a 3570k build, overclock to 4.4-4.8ghz and make do with a GPU like the 7770 - you can have 1.5x the performance of the $1k build you listed at only $650-750 or so. Dont want to overclock? Then it's significantly cheaper than even that but the performance advantage is not big.

The alienware specs will be fine, but you're getting ripped off on quality and on price
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
BRockStar
Profile Joined April 2013
United States4 Posts
April 02 2013 17:58 GMT
#106
I really am a novice when it comes to building computers or even discussing the the individual components... so getting the components individually and assembling myself really would be out of the question.

Sorry for being so tech incompetent.

Can you point me to a computer that can be bought at the performance and price benchmarks you stated above?

Like a $750 range and also a $1000 range PC? Do those price points with the corresponding performance only hold out if you build your own PC?

Thanks again
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 18:01:50
April 02 2013 17:59 GMT
#107
On April 03 2013 02:58 BRockStar wrote:
I really am a novice when it comes to building computers or even discussing the the individual components... so getting the components individually and assembling myself really would be out of the question.

Sorry for being so tech incompetent.

Can you point me to a computer that can be bought at the performance and price benchmarks you stated above?

Like a $750 range and also a $1000 range PC? Do those price points with the corresponding performance only hold out if you build your own PC?

Thanks again


find a site/shop that assembles parts of your choice. costs abit extra but you get best of both worlds and usually you still get way more performance&quality for your money.


/edit for the parts just look around in the other threads or just ask the gurus to give you a list.
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BRockStar
Profile Joined April 2013
United States4 Posts
April 02 2013 18:22 GMT
#108
Do you have any sites/shops that you would suggest? Preferably here in the states.
mushlafa
Profile Joined February 2011
29 Posts
April 02 2013 22:23 GMT
#109
This thread reminds me of a guy I met on ladder about a year ago. He claimed to have a top of the line computer capable of running sc2 at a constant 190fps. I told him that's completely impossible.... Unless he meant on the menu screen.

I told him he's full of shit and asked him what kinda hardware he's got.

Turns out someone ripped him off... It was funny when he started listing his hardware and had the exact same hardware I have that I put together for like 750. My game hovers around 60fps for most of the game and begins to dip as the armies get larger (this is with all ultra settings).

Morale of the story.... Scarcraft is extremely cpu intensive. Anybody claiming constant 60+ fps in 800/800 battles is just lying.
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