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qeMix
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany71 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-13 15:15:02
August 13 2015 15:11 GMT
#7501
i hope someone can help me out.
just got a cherry g80-3000 but i'm rather disappointed with it. the bigger keys are a lot harder to push and some keys result in a tinny sound that is really annoying.
so i'm gonna send this one back and i'm looking for a decent keyboard with good build quality.
the Das 4 Professional looks good but it's pretty expensive so it would be my last resort if there is nothing cheaper but still has solid build quality. also a filco would be a possibility, but i already have one and wanted to have something else if possible (i love my filco though).

Location: Germany
Any keyboards you currently have in mind: Ducky Zero DK2108, Das Keyboard 4 Professional, Lioncast LK20
Price:up to 150€
Backlighting: No
Size: full size (105) but still compact
Use (games/ programming/ typing etc): typing
USB/ PS2: preferably USB but PS/2 also ok
KRO: just the regular KRO ?
Macro keys (yes/ no): No
Media keys (yes/ no): not necessary
Layout (US/ ANSI, etc): German
Switch type: BLUE

evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8785 Posts
August 18 2015 04:22 GMT
#7502
how would you guys solve this current dilemma i have
im using brown switches at home atm and they felt great, but im spending less time on the computer at home and a lot more time on my computer at work (which uses standard microsoft keyboards) and i have to say im slowly getting annoyed by my mechanical keyboard now.
maybe its cause im so used to using rubber keyboards from when i was a kid, or maybe its just the feel of the keyboard
i know that now one of the things that bugs me about my current keyboard (as with probably most mechanical keyboards), is that the keys are so high up. in other words, they protrude out of the board a fair bit as opposed to a lot of older keyboards where the whole board is generally a lot more flat (keys included).
is there any mechanical keyboard that looks kind of like a rubber one where the keys dont protrude as much out of the board?
or would switching switches to red or something help at all?
skxnt
Profile Joined August 2015
Finland4 Posts
August 18 2015 14:45 GMT
#7503
Maybe get o-rings for your keyboard? They would make the distance to bottom out a bit shorter, like it is on a rubber dome.
regard
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8785 Posts
August 19 2015 00:13 GMT
#7504
maybe. im not sure if the problem is the bottoming out or the fact that the keys cause my hand to rest at a slightly higher angle and it is making it uncomfortable
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-02 17:57:00
September 02 2015 17:56 GMT
#7505
On August 12 2015 13:42 Nabe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 01:47 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
To give an update, i bought a keyboard with greetech switches and if you are used to cherry switches, dont ever ever buy a product with greetechs. It feels so crap, inconsistent feeling over the whole board. Never buy a keyboard with these crap switches. NEVER EVER!



What keyboard and what color switches please? I've actually heard very good things about GreeTech switches. I've only looked into browns but I heard from a very reliable source though they are about ~10-15 grams heavier to actuate than MX browns, but they feel much more tactile. No complaints whatsoever about inconsistency or anything like that.

I'd say if you are looking at off brand switches though Gaterons seem to be the way to go, in particular if you are looking at linear switches. I'm unfortunately slacking on these and haven't tried them in a keyboard just yet, (I have them just looking for a TKL plate at a reasonable price) but from everything I've heard and from trying them in a tester they are better than linear MX. They not only have more weight options 35g up to a whacky 170g or something, but are unanimously said to be much smoother than MX.

It was the Das Keyboard professional for Mac. The keyboard was also warped and the keycaps were thin . Really bad product in general and not worth the money.

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bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
September 03 2015 16:29 GMT
#7506
Hi,
Where can I buy custom keycaps online, or blank sets? Probably need to be shipped within 1.5 weeks in the US.
THanks
ELqQQT_T
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
September 03 2015 17:10 GMT
#7507
On September 04 2015 01:29 bluegarfield wrote:
Hi,
Where can I buy custom keycaps online, or blank sets? Probably need to be shipped within 1.5 weeks in the US.
THanks

WASD sells those.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8785 Posts
September 04 2015 05:15 GMT
#7508
so anyone got any recommendations for the question i posted before?
a mechanical keyboard that doesnt exactly have the design of a typical mechanical keyboard

the current keyboard im using at work is this
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-au/p/wired-keyboard-600/ANB-00025
cheap, standard keyboard but the biggest plus for me with this is the design. kind of flat and has those things on the backside which raise the keyboard. the keys are low as well which means my hand can rest on the desk and not have to tilt my wrist up so much to press keys, which is my current problem with my mechanical keyboard at home
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
September 04 2015 08:32 GMT
#7509
On September 04 2015 02:10 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 01:29 bluegarfield wrote:
Hi,
Where can I buy custom keycaps online, or blank sets? Probably need to be shipped within 1.5 weeks in the US.
THanks

WASD sells those.

Ok thx. Will look at that
ELqQQT_T
Nabe
Profile Joined April 2015
51 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-06 09:13:41
September 06 2015 08:58 GMT
#7510
On September 04 2015 14:15 evilfatsh1t wrote:
so anyone got any recommendations for the question i posted before?
a mechanical keyboard that doesnt exactly have the design of a typical mechanical keyboard

the current keyboard im using at work is this
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-au/p/wired-keyboard-600/ANB-00025
cheap, standard keyboard but the biggest plus for me with this is the design. kind of flat and has those things on the backside which raise the keyboard. the keys are low as well which means my hand can rest on the desk and not have to tilt my wrist up so much to press keys, which is my current problem with my mechanical keyboard at home



Just get a wrist wrest or a scissor switch, basically what's on laptops. I guess you could try different profile keys like Cherry or SP's DSA which is a non sculpted profile instead of OEM if you feel like spending money, but honestly it's unlikely to help much. I'm not entirely sure what the problem is since you weren't very clear. If you mean you dislike the key travel, learn not to bottom out at least as hard, or o-rings are also an option. If you are having hand or wrist pains then something is wrong with your setup or posture.
Nabe
Profile Joined April 2015
51 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-06 09:14:26
September 06 2015 09:11 GMT
#7511
On September 04 2015 17:32 bluegarfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 02:10 ThomasjServo wrote:
On September 04 2015 01:29 bluegarfield wrote:
Hi,
Where can I buy custom keycaps online, or blank sets? Probably need to be shipped within 1.5 weeks in the US.
THanks

WASD sells those.

Ok thx. Will look at that


I'd at least look into other caps before buying if you still have the time. WASD caps are not the greatest. Thin UV printed and coated ABS. Though they are the only company offering personalized custom sets so if that's what you want then go for it. But you can pick up double shots, blank PBT, etc for cheaper than WASD is doing them. Heck you can buy double shot PBT for the same price, which at least when talking about plastic is the most durable caps possible. Either way all of which will outlast them by a significant amount of time. pimpmykeyboard.com mechanicalkeyboards.com elitekeyboards.com There's quite a few on ebay as well.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
September 06 2015 23:47 GMT
#7512
ABS


plastic type is probably my biggest regret with buying mech board, the keycaps on this one drive me craaaaaazy now from being shiny/slippery from oil, sweat etc even though i keep a damp cloth on my desk and clean it very often
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
September 07 2015 05:50 GMT
#7513
Personally, I now have several sets of keycaps manufactured by signature plastics/PMK and haven't had any issues with stems, fitting, scratches etc.

In terms of ABS as opposed to PBT I definitely feel like it makes a difference, but it's ultimately down to preference.
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-07 13:12:27
September 07 2015 13:10 GMT
#7514
On September 06 2015 18:11 Nabe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 17:32 bluegarfield wrote:
On September 04 2015 02:10 ThomasjServo wrote:
On September 04 2015 01:29 bluegarfield wrote:
Hi,
Where can I buy custom keycaps online, or blank sets? Probably need to be shipped within 1.5 weeks in the US.
THanks

WASD sells those.

Ok thx. Will look at that


I'd at least look into other caps before buying if you still have the time. WASD caps are not the greatest. Thin UV printed and coated ABS. Though they are the only company offering personalized custom sets so if that's what you want then go for it. But you can pick up double shots, blank PBT, etc for cheaper than WASD is doing them. Heck you can buy double shot PBT for the same price, which at least when talking about plastic is the most durable caps possible. Either way all of which will outlast them by a significant amount of time. pimpmykeyboard.com mechanicalkeyboards.com elitekeyboards.com There's quite a few on ebay as well.


Thanks, I will look into those alternatives. Anyway I dont really have enough time in the US to wait for shipping so now it's about which site ship internationally at decent price.

edit: actually found a local shop selling blank sets for $60. but dont have purple. And they dont do custom prints either
ELqQQT_T
Nabe
Profile Joined April 2015
51 Posts
September 08 2015 05:39 GMT
#7515
That's unfortunate. Sorry I didn't see your post earlier.

As far as I know WASD are the only ones doing custom printing on a single customer basis. Except maybe Signature Plastics, but here's what they say themselves " Keep in mind that since we do not typically inventory double shot keycaps, it is very expensive to set up and manufacture one single set of keycaps. Typically this cost would be around $750." Also keep in mind that 750 is for legends they already have, they need to make new molds for custom legends so add another 25 dollars per custom key. lol

Realistically: Try Sim Lim, there are a few shops there selling them. In particular Xtreme Solution. I know they have caps, but no idea how big the selection would be. Probably decent though, they carry virtually every high end brand of keyboard.

Another option might be find a friend who has family or friends in China. Taobao has tons of options for dirt cheap.

Korea might also be option. But I'd only recommend it if you're looking for some very rare authentic sets, it will not be cheap by any means. The market place on OTD.kr is one of the easier places to get them.
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
September 08 2015 13:13 GMT
#7516
On September 08 2015 14:39 Nabe wrote:
That's unfortunate. Sorry I didn't see your post earlier.

As far as I know WASD are the only ones doing custom printing on a single customer basis. Except maybe Signature Plastics, but here's what they say themselves " Keep in mind that since we do not typically inventory double shot keycaps, it is very expensive to set up and manufacture one single set of keycaps. Typically this cost would be around $750." Also keep in mind that 750 is for legends they already have, they need to make new molds for custom legends so add another 25 dollars per custom key. lol

Realistically: Try Sim Lim, there are a few shops there selling them. In particular Xtreme Solution. I know they have caps, but no idea how big the selection would be. Probably decent though, they carry virtually every high end brand of keyboard.

Another option might be find a friend who has family or friends in China. Taobao has tons of options for dirt cheap.

Korea might also be option. But I'd only recommend it if you're looking for some very rare authentic sets, it will not be cheap by any means. The market place on OTD.kr is one of the easier places to get them.


Thanks. Yeah the local shop I mentioned is indeed Xtreme Solution, but I am looking for alternative options before commit to buying from them. Not that they are bad, I already got 2 keyboards from them, just that more options is always better.

Also $750 T_T, I may as well buy blanks and some permanent marker to draw myself XD
ELqQQT_T
caedmon-
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia64 Posts
September 14 2015 02:01 GMT
#7517
hi there,

I'm sure this question is asked quite often, so I apologise in advance. What is generally considered the best quiet mechanical keyboard? A few years ago when I was looking into it, the Ducky or the Das Keyboard Professional Model S Quiet were the best options, but most places don't sell the Das any more. Are there better options available now? I work in a fairly crowded office, so anything loud is out of the question. Thanks!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
September 14 2015 05:36 GMT
#7518
They're using cherry mx brown switches, nothing special about them. Pretty much everyone is, though you can add o-rings to them to remove part of the noise
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 22:49:02
October 01 2015 22:40 GMT
#7519
So I finally got a CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid I. Any idea where I could find me rainbow or Filco-Yellow, not WASDKeyboards-Yellow blank ISO keycaps It seems impossible.
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Nabe
Profile Joined April 2015
51 Posts
October 03 2015 07:11 GMT
#7520
On October 02 2015 07:40 shz wrote:
So I finally got a CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid I. Any idea where I could find me rainbow or Filco-Yellow, not WASDKeyboards-Yellow blank ISO keycaps It seems impossible.


Your not going to find rainbow caps in ISO. The closest I've ever seen was someone who bought the keycool rainbow set in ANSI and then bought an entire other Ducky set in pink to get the enter and extra ISO keys needed. [image loading]

For blanks I'm pretty sure the best you can do is Maxkeyboard. They have blank ISO sets in black, blue, brown, white, red, and grey for 20 USD, or the same customization as WASD (in blanks anyway and in those colors I mentioned) for 25. Or WASD themselves for ~50.

Signature Plastics is out of stock on all 6.25 yellow space bars in DCS which is the option you can have given they only make ISO enters in that profile. So I guess no luck there either.

Unfortunately your in a situation where you have to compromise on what you want, not change caps, or spend quite a bit as in equal to or more than the actual keyboard cost to get them. Sucks to say ISO just isn't worth it to the vast majority of keycap companies so your quite limited.

Or tl;dr no to both
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