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missalaire
Profile Joined January 2015
United States20 Posts
November 01 2015 05:34 GMT
#7541
On November 01 2015 14:03 Nabe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 17:00 WeddingEpisode wrote:
On October 23 2015 14:31 Nabe wrote:
On October 23 2015 03:47 WeddingEpisode wrote:
Are there gaming keyboards with sturdy rubber keys,
or more metal parts? Mechanical keyboards are still a lot of plastic, if you ask me.


Gaming keyboards are a marketing gimmick, don't buy into the hype. You can play just as well on a something like a Filco as a Razer. Don't believe me? Just have a look at how pretty much every Korean not sponsored by a keyboard company is playing on the FC700R or Majestouch 2. Neither of which are in any way marketed as a gaming keyboard. Maru, Innovation, sOs, Classic, herO just to name a few.

Yes Rubber keys are a thing, but I wouldn't recommend them they are expensive and wear significantly faster than plastic.

Yes you can go all metal besides the PCB, switch housings, and stems but it's very expensive. The Pok3r with it's cast aluminum case is really the only one to have done it cheaply. But if the sky is the limit for your budget check out the Korean customs like GON, KMAC, LZ, and the many others. They start at around 400 and can cost thousands, can be very difficult to get outside of Korea, rarely if ever come with caps, and more often then not require you to assemble them.



$1,000's? lol wow. Very interesting and helpful, ty.



Well to be fair they are really only for enthusiasts who know exactly what they want and also have a lot of money to spend. They are custom designed from the ground up. Thick very high quality metals that are milled not cast, custom designed PCB and plate, and the highest quality components that are available. The majority offer full user customization as well, any layout you can imagine, any color and type of finish, custom made springs in any weight and type of stem you want, LED options, etc. All while being in very limited numbers.

If you where design all this and add up all the costs yourself you'll find it's quite close to the prices they are asking. A case will set you back 200-500+ alone to have milled depending on metal choice, thickness, and design. Forget the knowledge, effort, and time it takes to design it all, in particular a good PCB, writing the firmware and software and all the rest. They also go through multiple prototype phases where they make sure everything is up to their standard. So as crazy as it might sound you actually are getting what you pay for.

At least it makes sense to me. The stupidest thing IMHO is artisan caps. $910 USD for a single keycap? Done and done. It sold for 16 dollars originally


I spy a fellow Geekhacker
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
December 14 2015 00:15 GMT
#7542
Anyone else get on the WhiteFox massdrop buy? I don't really play much SC2 anymore but my 60% Poker II clears works great with Dota. Having an arrow cluster on the 65% WhiteFox (I went for the True Fox layout), should help with my actual productivity (Solidworks, Photoshop, etc).
johnny123
Profile Joined February 2012
521 Posts
December 31 2015 01:54 GMT
#7543
best switch for rts like games, Brown , red, black, blue?
Favorite players,Stephano/MVP/Nestea/Gumiho/Life/Jaedong/MMA
EmKey
Profile Joined December 2002
Korea (South)631 Posts
December 31 2015 02:13 GMT
#7544
On December 31 2015 10:54 johnny123 wrote:
best switch for rts like games, Brown , red, black, blue?

Its personal preference. All are viable choices.
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Nabe
Profile Joined April 2015
51 Posts
December 31 2015 10:55 GMT
#7545
On December 14 2015 09:15 lac29 wrote:
Anyone else get on the WhiteFox massdrop buy? I don't really play much SC2 anymore but my 60% Poker II clears works great with Dota. Having an arrow cluster on the 65% WhiteFox (I went for the True Fox layout), should help with my actual productivity (Solidworks, Photoshop, etc).


Nope but will probably end up buying one second hand eventually. I just feel the 65% wasn't the best size option for a keyboard that's main selling point is it's ability to be heavily modified. The two keys above the right arrow and the ISO right shift make it pretty much impossible to change the caps unless you use DSA, and even then it's another 30 dollars+ to buy the ISO kit for a single key. Which is unfortunate because pretty much everything else about it is great. The notched plate and the customizable firmware in particular are very useful.
Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland753 Posts
January 01 2016 07:28 GMT
#7546
On December 31 2015 10:54 johnny123 wrote:
best switch for rts like games, Brown , red, black, blue?


Also, read the op - it's one of the most commonly asked questions.
-= Jaedong // HerO // HasuObs // Unholy Alliance =-
guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
February 11 2016 08:36 GMT
#7547
Do a lot of people still use the leopold fc700r? Are the fc750r and fc900r similar?
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Hemingway
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-11 13:25:58
February 11 2016 13:22 GMT
#7548
On February 11 2016 17:36 guitarizt wrote:
Do a lot of people still use the leopold fc700r? Are the fc750r and fc900r similar?

I have one of the fc700r, I like it but it is probably more expensive than it should be considering.
Nabe
Profile Joined April 2015
51 Posts
February 12 2016 16:02 GMT
#7549
They are still common, less so than they would be as there was no authorized seller for Leopold in the US for quite some time. The 750R basically is the 700R with some updates and without the stupid stem spacing on the spacebar. There's no reason to not get the 750R if you're seriously looking at the two. The 900R is more or less a fullsize 750R with more cap options and DIP switches for things you likely don't care about.
reapsen
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany559 Posts
March 13 2016 13:28 GMT
#7550
My collection, i hope you like 'em

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Aiobhill
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany283 Posts
April 27 2016 18:17 GMT
#7551
Purchased a Corsair Strafe RGB with the Cherry MX silents a while ago and really happy with it. Coming from a MX red keyboard the difference is minimal, both regarding the noise and the haptics when typing. The 'normal' keys (german layout) are very silent, backspace and space keys a tiny bit louder. When typing and bottoming out the key, not necessarily hard, there is the tinyest amount of 'stickyness', hard to describe, which makes it feel like a mix of 95% MX red and 5% MX brown. For me this makes no difference when gaming and is even a slight advantage when typing longer texts. The lighting modes are almost overwhelming and give lots of options even when avoiding anything too disco ball-y.

Drawbacks are the too bright indicators for caps lock and num lock, and the necessity to (auto-)start the Corsair software to fully utilize the lightning modes.The keys are also mounted relatively open and make the keyboard susceptible to dirt.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 04:26:23
May 05 2016 04:22 GMT
#7552
Do they make affordable tenkeyless or 87-key keyboards with cherry MX brown switches or something similar? I don't need any illumination or any bells and whistles at all, I just need a keyboard with all the keys except the numpad. Unfortunately, my current full-size keyboard is too wide and I don't have enough space for my mouse. Really sucks for FPS.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 05 2016 13:36 GMT
#7553
On May 05 2016 13:22 Djzapz wrote:
Do they make affordable tenkeyless or 87-key keyboards with cherry MX brown switches or something similar? I don't need any illumination or any bells and whistles at all, I just need a keyboard with all the keys except the numpad. Unfortunately, my current full-size keyboard is too wide and I don't have enough space for my mouse. Really sucks for FPS.

Define affordable for you.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 05 2016 13:40 GMT
#7554
On May 05 2016 22:36 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 13:22 Djzapz wrote:
Do they make affordable tenkeyless or 87-key keyboards with cherry MX brown switches or something similar? I don't need any illumination or any bells and whistles at all, I just need a keyboard with all the keys except the numpad. Unfortunately, my current full-size keyboard is too wide and I don't have enough space for my mouse. Really sucks for FPS.

Define affordable for you.

$60-70 CDN, I got tagged for $1300 by our beloved revenue agency so now I'm essentially a walking husk waiting to die.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 05 2016 14:28 GMT
#7555
Should have talked with Mossack Fonseca, I would recommend as I have in the past the QFR by Coolermaster, it is a bit above your price range but not more than 20 bucks from Amazon.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 05 2016 15:50 GMT
#7556
On May 05 2016 23:28 ThomasjServo wrote:
Should have talked with Mossack Fonseca, I would recommend as I have in the past the QFR by Coolermaster, it is a bit above your price range but not more than 20 bucks from Amazon.

May have to go with that and not eat for 2 days.

It's really annoying though, it looks like the brown switches are $20-30 more on very model. Why did they make blues the standard, those things clack through drywall like it's not there. Brown4evr.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 05 2016 16:24 GMT
#7557
On May 06 2016 00:50 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 23:28 ThomasjServo wrote:
Should have talked with Mossack Fonseca, I would recommend as I have in the past the QFR by Coolermaster, it is a bit above your price range but not more than 20 bucks from Amazon.

May have to go with that and not eat for 2 days.

It's really annoying though, it looks like the brown switches are $20-30 more on very model. Why did they make blues the standard, those things clack through drywall like it's not there. Brown4evr.



Time to go to costco and buy the pallet of Ramen.
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1004 Posts
May 05 2016 21:52 GMT
#7558
On December 31 2015 10:54 johnny123 wrote:
best switch for rts like games, Brown , red, black, blue?


I'm sure this is on the first page in the OP

But I used to used Blues, and while I probably prefer them ever so slightly on feel they are definitely loud as all hell and not the greatest thing when you have a girl friend trying to sleep as you get a late night game session on.

Currently I use browns and I love them, an excellent hybrid of blue tactile and the ease of reds.

My cousin has a switch with reds, it feel pretty nice although a bit weird because I prefer the stiffer keys like blues and they accentuate with barely a press.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8778 Posts
May 06 2016 13:52 GMT
#7559
do o rings make a different to the key press feelings on blues?
i like the feel of blues but its too damn loud. wouldnt mind making them quieter but wouldnt want them to feel softer or something
Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
May 08 2016 03:59 GMT
#7560
Just picked up this magicforce wanted a small keyboard I could travel with and I really like it. Put different keycaps on it that I already had and really like.

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