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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On December 05 2014 12:26 KDot2 wrote: does that make it easier to not bottom out blues ? As Fruity pointed out, the difference in force necessary isn't so much that you won't bottom out with blues, but you'll know right where the On/Off point is if that makes sense. You can push the keys to the actuation point without actually passing it, which is harder with browns. | ||
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fruity.
England1711 Posts
Please, don't think I'm looking to start an arguement here  You own both and I have no reason to disagree. I've owned most cherry key types in the past but never had blue and brown to compare at the same time. Maybe my habit of skimming information has betrayed me once again.Forums are a good place to learn. And learn again, I have. Say that line like Yoda would!! | ||
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Firkraag8
Sweden1006 Posts
On another note, have been playing a bit with my Topre now and it's a treat to play sc2 with, I can't say it was worth the premium for novatouch + a set of PBT keys but It's all good and it sated my curiosity about the switch. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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Westy
England808 Posts
Does anyone know of an up to date list of all the big name pro gamers and their equipment? For all the major games. SC2, LoL, Dota2, CS:GO. Thanks | ||
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fruity.
England1711 Posts
On December 06 2014 22:09 Westy wrote: I am looking to write an article about professional gamers and their choice of mechanical keyboard (or none mechanical keyboards and why). Does anyone know of an up to date list of all the big name pro gamers and their equipment? For all the major games. SC2, LoL, Dota2, CS:GO. Thanks I can forsee a lot of research in your future! A point to consider though is that a lot of the teams these days are sponsored by XYZ, and if XYZ is a peripheral manufacturer, then the team will be using their gear.. So perhaps a gamer doesn't have much choice in what tech like keyboards they use. Is that assumption correct guys? If I ran Uber Keyboard Inc. and sponsored Team Noodle, and Team Noodle players all used Jello's keyboards, well hell, I aint happy nor sponsoring you no more! | ||
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fruity.
England1711 Posts
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Westy
England808 Posts
On December 07 2014 07:19 fruity. wrote: I can forsee a lot of research in your future! A point to consider though is that a lot of the teams these days are sponsored by XYZ, and if XYZ is a peripheral manufacturer, then the team will be using their gear.. So perhaps a gamer doesn't have much choice in what tech like keyboards they use. Is that assumption correct guys? If I ran Uber Keyboard Inc. and sponsored Team Noodle, and Team Noodle players all used Jello's keyboards, well hell, I aint happy nor sponsoring you no more! True, but it is kind of irrelevant. No player is going to use a keyboard that makes their performance suffer, and fans are willing to buy the products from the companies that support their favourite player. For example, Polt has a CM Storm Quickfire Pro with Brown switches (or is used to) and is sponsored by CM Storm. As a big polt fan and someone who was in need of a keyboard, I brought myself one and have loved it more than any keyboard. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20319 Posts
On December 07 2014 16:29 Westy wrote: True, but it is kind of irrelevant. No player is going to use a keyboard that makes their performance suffer, and fans are willing to buy the products from the companies that support their favourite player. For example, Polt has a CM Storm Quickfire Pro with Brown switches (or is used to) and is sponsored by CM Storm. As a big polt fan and someone who was in need of a keyboard, I brought myself one and have loved it more than any keyboard. A lot of people have used hardware from people sponsoring them even though it was worse than competitive products for performance (for example, see most of EG using the Sensei with its inconsistent sensor and only flashy features to make up for it) There is the whole argument of "does this actually make you a worse player in an easily measurable way" but at the end of the day, it's worse hardware for those usages. Many pro players of non-FPS games use bad mice or bad mouse settings | ||
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
On December 07 2014 17:04 Cyro wrote: A lot of people have used hardware from people sponsoring them even though it was worse than competitive products for performance (for example, see most of EG using the Sensei with its inconsistent sensor and only flashy features to make up for it) There is the whole argument of "does this actually make you a worse player in an easily measurable way" but at the end of the day, it's worse hardware for those usages. Many pro players of non-FPS games use bad mice or bad mouse settings but isnt EG sponsored by Razer now? or you mean during the time when Steelseries was still their sponsor? | ||
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fruity.
England1711 Posts
On December 07 2014 16:29 Westy wrote: True, but it is kind of irrelevant. No player is going to use a keyboard that makes their performance suffer, and fans are willing to buy the products from the companies that support their favourite player. For example, Polt has a CM Storm Quickfire Pro with Brown switches (or is used to) and is sponsored by CM Storm. As a big polt fan and someone who was in need of a keyboard, I brought myself one and have loved it more than any keyboard. In a way I've never really understood advertising or sponsorship. I've always thought that advertising etc. doesn't work on me even at a subconscious level, at least that's what I'd like to believe. For example, if I want a new keyboard, I'll go read up reviews from a bunch of sites before I commit to spending my money. If a team or player gets sponsored by X brand, it's really of no interest to me. The logic of 'hey they use it, it must be great' seems a little bit of a risky way to go about things. Sure maybe the fact they are sponsored by X will cause me to research their brand (and I guess on this level alone their sponsorship is working so scratch what I said above - in a way) But the final decision I give to the established technology review sites, factoring in my budget and the features I value. A question for all: If a brand sponsors players or teams, isn't this counterintuative to getting a reasonably priced procuct? Lots of sponsorship = Extra overheads = Higher price to the end user = Worse value from a potential customers point of view. | ||
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Eisregen
Germany967 Posts
I am looking at the CM Storm QuickFire TK with MX Blues at the moment for around 60EUR. Mainly I play games such as Battlefield 4/Unreal Tournament and Dragon Age/Skyrim. When I am not gaming I am writing Papers for University (that's why I need a NumBlock aswell). At the moment I have a Tt esport Challenger I bought 3 years ago for 20bugs. I like the keyboard but it is due to get a new one. So why not switching to a mechanical one, which will hopefully give me more pleasure gaming and writing on it. Is the CM Storm QuickFire TK with MX Blues a good keyboard or are there any known issues with it? | ||
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fruity.
England1711 Posts
On December 07 2014 22:44 Eisregen wrote: Hey guys, I am looking at the CM Storm QuickFire TK with MX Blues at the moment for around 60EUR. Mainly I play games such as Battlefield 4/Unreal Tournament and Dragon Age/Skyrim. When I am not gaming I am writing Papers for University (that's why I need a NumBlock aswell). At the moment I have a Tt esport Challenger I bought 3 years ago for 20bugs. I like the keyboard but it is due to get a new one. So why not switching to a mechanical one, which will hopefully give me more pleasure gaming and writing on it. Is the CM Storm QuickFire TK with MX Blues a good keyboard or are there any known issues with it? Same keyboard I have. Very pleased with it so far. I couldnt find anything bad about it online before I bought - like manufacturer defects etc. Something to bear in mind is that blue switches are the clicky noisy type, perhaps (?) Not ideal for a study environment. Browns would be an option, which is what I have in mine, but the tactile bump in these seems very slight to me - but I have two clubs for hands. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On December 07 2014 17:04 Cyro wrote: A lot of people have used hardware from people sponsoring them even though it was worse than competitive products for performance (for example, see most of EG using the Sensei with its inconsistent sensor and only flashy features to make up for it) There is the whole argument of "does this actually make you a worse player in an easily measurable way" but at the end of the day, it's worse hardware for those usages. Many pro players of non-FPS games use bad mice or bad mouse settings Polt must be OK though since he uses the CM Spawn. | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
I want to buy one for my Dad for christmas. He does a fair bit of data entry for his work, so I thought a nice mech keyboard could be a decent present. He lives in a family house so it needs to be something reasonably quiet, perhaps browns with dampeners? Obviously it doesn't need any special features, so what sorta price might I be looking at? | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On December 09 2014 02:02 Zealos wrote: Any thoughts on what keyboard to buy? I want to buy one for my Dad for christmas. He does a fair bit of data entry for his work, so I thought a nice mech keyboard could be a decent present. He lives in a family house so it needs to be something reasonably quiet, perhaps browns with dampeners? Obviously it doesn't need any special features, so what sorta price might I be looking at? Plain Jane home stuff, Das Keyboard may be good to look at, it is a bit like an old Cadillac in that they are a bit boat-like but really nice and smooth to type on, they also offer a silenced, mechanical option. The newest version also have some media controls in top right, which may be nice. | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20074 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
your muscle memory can not only remember the location of keys, it can also remember how to press them. I prefer the reds, they are not mushy to me, they are great! | ||
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