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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-03 12:48:08
November 03 2014 12:39 GMT
#7181
Yo guys, I want to buy mechanical keyboard coz I'm sick of standard ones where the keys don't press sometimes when I try to use blink dagger.

I currently use this http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/pc-accessories/keyboards/keyboards/advent-k112-keyboard-black-13828361-pdt.html

and always have used £5-10 keyboards. I like the large size of them with full key spread but it looks like mechanical/gaming keyboard tend to be a lot more compact so maybe I have to get used to that...?

I don't know if I want red or tap keys but if red is best for gaming (Dota) then I'll get that. (or whatever, I'll go with your opinion...)

Please recommend me a keyboard and I'll buy it

Price range £30-£70 with £100 max

edit: actually from what I know about myself, I probably do NOT want a red switch keyboard. i used a laptop or something with smooth keys once and it felt horrible. or maybe those were just those shitty flat keys you get on some laptops. now im not sure again
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bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-03 13:49:48
November 03 2014 13:40 GMT
#7182
On November 03 2014 21:39 FFGenerations wrote:
Yo guys, I want to buy mechanical keyboard coz I'm sick of standard ones where the keys don't press sometimes when I try to use blink dagger.

I currently use this http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/pc-accessories/keyboards/keyboards/advent-k112-keyboard-black-13828361-pdt.html

and always have used £5-10 keyboards. I like the large size of them with full key spread but it looks like mechanical/gaming keyboard tend to be a lot more compact so maybe I have to get used to that...?

I don't know if I want red or tap keys but if red is best for gaming (Dota) then I'll get that. (or whatever, I'll go with your opinion...)

Please recommend me a keyboard and I'll buy it

Price range £30-£70 with £100 max

edit: actually from what I know about myself, I probably do NOT want a red switch keyboard. i used a laptop or something with smooth keys once and it felt horrible. or maybe those were just those shitty flat keys you get on some laptops. now im not sure again


Mechanical keyboards, especially gaming ones, generally have standard size, so it will be just as smooth as any other keyboard.

Red is "supposedly" the best for gaming, I have tried and understand why people said so. With that in mind, the linear feeling is actually horrible for anything else. Also, Red switch is very linear and I would say it is different from most, if not all, laptop keys with scissors switch. I may be wrong though, but it's a good estimation. Blue switch may give you trouble double-tapping, I had a nightmare double-tapping to self-cast spells with Blue, so unless you can get your hand on one and try it out, I think better to avoid that. At least it's tactile. Brown switch is kinda middle ground between Blue and Red. So it may hit the sweet spot for you if you don't like Red.

Having using all 3 switches I would vouch for Brown for multi-purpose keyboard, even solely for gaming it's great. But I would recommend you to go to any shop and try it out. Many of the specialized shops have display models for you to try to your heart content, and switch type is really a personal preference thing. But if you cant, then Brown is probably the safer bet.

Also, for gaming keyboard, do you just need a super standard keyboard, with/without numpad or do you want macro keys as well?

I actually have no idea what website is reliable to check for UK availability and pricing, but given the price range, my guess-timation, and suggestion, will be CM Storm lines for the quality of product and availability. Check out CM Storm Quickfire XT for standard with numpad, Quickfire Rapid for tenkeyless (no numpad), and Quickfire Trigger for macro keys. I heard Zowie Celeritas is decent, didnt have chance to try it though. Probably want to avoid Razer BW 2014 if your main concern is quality


edit: checking from here and here, easiest to find and on the nicer end of price range are probably CM Storm products
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
November 03 2014 15:11 GMT
#7183
I need a numpad but don't care for macro/any extra anythings. (im used to £5 keyboard)

CM Storm Quickfire XT looks good! that is standard size keyboard these days right? i'm used to much bigger keyboards but if that's the normal deal now then i'm happy to go with it .....

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bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-03 15:17:06
November 03 2014 15:16 GMT
#7184
Yeah, the size of Quickfire XT is as standard as you can get nowadays for mechanical keyboard iirc.
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
November 03 2014 15:25 GMT
#7185
nice, just ordered http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00GSL51ZE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

thanks for the help
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bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
November 03 2014 15:36 GMT
#7186
Hope you will love it when it arrive
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-03 15:49:38
November 03 2014 15:48 GMT
#7187
Wooo brown switches are the shitttttttt, and you saved £00.09 don't spend that all in one place.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
November 03 2014 15:49 GMT
#7188
well i uninstalled dota again but you never know when it may rear its ugly head again LOL
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rtsAlaran
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany383 Posts
November 14 2014 08:28 GMT
#7189
As an avid ThinkPad user, it's always a hard decision for me:
1. type on my laptop keyboard and be able to use my loved Trackpoint aka never leave the homerow
2. have the joy of typing on a mechanical keyboard (browns or blues)

Finally, a solution is coming: http://www.guru-board.com/english/features_en
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
November 14 2014 23:04 GMT
#7190
I've just searched the whole internet for the Filco with blank keys (especially the white one http://webwit.nl/input/filco/fkbn87-white-4.jpg (o gosh)) but can't find anywhere to buy it.

So I wonder; do you know any shop that actually has it or the black counterpart, preferably in northern Europe?

If that isn't the case, is there any shop selling Leopold, Ducky etc that are TKL, blank keys and MX brown or blue? ;(
maru G5L pls
WellCrap
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden122 Posts
November 15 2014 18:28 GMT
#7191
On November 15 2014 08:04 neptunusfisk wrote:
I've just searched the whole internet for the Filco with blank keys (especially the white one http://webwit.nl/input/filco/fkbn87-white-4.jpg (o gosh)) but can't find anywhere to buy it.

So I wonder; do you know any shop that actually has it or the black counterpart, preferably in northern Europe?

If that isn't the case, is there any shop selling Leopold, Ducky etc that are TKL, blank keys and MX brown or blue? ;(

Might be better to find any of the previously mentioned keyboards in a TKL's layout and then pickup some blank keys.
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
November 15 2014 18:33 GMT
#7192
On November 16 2014 03:28 WellCrap wrote:
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On November 15 2014 08:04 neptunusfisk wrote:
I've just searched the whole internet for the Filco with blank keys (especially the white one http://webwit.nl/input/filco/fkbn87-white-4.jpg (o gosh)) but can't find anywhere to buy it.

So I wonder; do you know any shop that actually has it or the black counterpart, preferably in northern Europe?

If that isn't the case, is there any shop selling Leopold, Ducky etc that are TKL, blank keys and MX brown or blue? ;(

Might be better to find any of the previously mentioned keyboards in a TKL's layout and then pickup some blank keys.


Yes, it seems like that. It seems like only Filcos "ninja" keyboards are liberated from the ugly capslock, scroll lock labels to the top right. So ninja TKL + blank buttons seems to be the way to go.
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Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
November 28 2014 17:01 GMT
#7193
Just got my CM Storm NovaTouch TKL. Also purchased some extra PBT caps for it, it's really nice to write on, will see how Topre works for SC2 later tonight (after Dreamhack). Super happy with it, I've been dying to try out this switch since I first started getting mechanical keyboards and with CM the possibility came.
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fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
November 28 2014 23:07 GMT
#7194
Just looking for opinions on this keyboard?
http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139235/CATID=794/ID=23351/SID=689423041/productdetails.html

I'm aiming for a decent, sturdy mechanical keyboard with no macro keys (hate those things) and background lighting. Any thoughts on this?
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
November 29 2014 04:57 GMT
#7195
On November 29 2014 08:07 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Just looking for opinions on this keyboard?
http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139235/CATID=794/ID=23351/SID=689423041/productdetails.html

I'm aiming for a decent, sturdy mechanical keyboard with no macro keys (hate those things) and background lighting. Any thoughts on this?


Given the choices available on the website you linked, your current choice is probably your best option so I would say go for it, although it does have backlighting if that concerns you.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
November 30 2014 06:05 GMT
#7196
Is there any reason why SC2 won't recognize my multiple mouse and keyboard clicks/strokes? I guess, mainly keyboard strokes? I have a mechanical keyboard (CM Storm Quickfire Ultimate) and supposedly have it set to 1MS by hitting Fn and -. However I notice that sometimes SC2 still doesn't recognize my keystrokes for some weird reason. I swear I pressed escape to cancel a building and stop it from being built, but it still continues for example. There's no way I average only 100APM when in some games I average 160APM.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 14:36:19
December 01 2014 14:32 GMT
#7197
is this good? Not sure about hte no numpad thing, i had a borken numpad once and it was an annoyance a few times, on the other hand reduced size is good so it doesnt invace my mousespace.

http://www.amazon.de/Filco-Majestouch-2-Profi-Tastatur-Tenkeyless/dp/B009G0G85Q/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1417444217&sr=1-1&keywords=Filco Majestouch 2 red

or this? Not sure about the handrest thingy.

http://www.amazon.de/Corsair-Vengeance-mechanisches-Keyboard-CH-9000011-DE/dp/B00CJB8P0U/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1417443505&sr=1-1&keywords=Corsair K70


my local store also has this, which i ninjaly unpacked and tested to decide if reds are any good, not sure about the notebook keys though

http://www.amazon.de/Cherry-G80-3850LSBDE-2-MX-Board-Professional-Tastatur/dp/B00D63W7TU/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1417444290&sr=1-2&keywords=cherry board 3.0 mx




this seems really nice, but its brown

http://www.amazon.de/Filco-Majestouch-2-Profi-Tastatur-Switches/dp/B004KQOWNQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1417444552&sr=1-1&keywords=Filco Majestouch-2




DE keys and Red is surprisingly limiting
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
December 01 2014 15:21 GMT
#7198
On November 30 2014 15:05 geokilla wrote:
Is there any reason why SC2 won't recognize my multiple mouse and keyboard clicks/strokes? I guess, mainly keyboard strokes? I have a mechanical keyboard (CM Storm Quickfire Ultimate) and supposedly have it set to 1MS by hitting Fn and -. However I notice that sometimes SC2 still doesn't recognize my keystrokes for some weird reason. I swear I pressed escape to cancel a building and stop it from being built, but it still continues for example. There's no way I average only 100APM when in some games I average 160APM.


Sometimes happened for me with both keyboard and mouse on usb, game ignoring inputs from one
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fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
December 01 2014 16:31 GMT
#7199
On November 30 2014 15:05 geokilla wrote:
Is there any reason why SC2 won't recognize my multiple mouse and keyboard clicks/strokes? I guess, mainly keyboard strokes? I have a mechanical keyboard (CM Storm Quickfire Ultimate) and supposedly have it set to 1MS by hitting Fn and -. However I notice that sometimes SC2 still doesn't recognize my keystrokes for some weird reason. I swear I pressed escape to cancel a building and stop it from being built, but it still continues for example. There's no way I average only 100APM when in some games I average 160APM.


Not familiar with that specific keyboard, but if it has a PS/2 connection you're better off using that as this way it forces an interupt, which the hardware and therefore operating system can not ignore. With USB the hardware/ operating system is basically doing;

..you pressed a key yet?
..you pressed a key yet?
..you pressed a key yet?
..you pressed a key yet?
..you pressed a key yet?

Over and over and over. ie Constantly polling the device(s) to see what's being pressed or moved.

Perhaps someone move familiar with this could explain it better, or might even say it doesn't or shouldn't matter. But using PS/2 forces your computer to take note of what was pressed and when.
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Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
December 01 2014 16:38 GMT
#7200
On December 01 2014 23:32 LaNague wrote:
is this good? Not sure about hte no numpad thing, i had a borken numpad once and it was an annoyance a few times, on the other hand reduced size is good so it doesnt invace my mousespace.

http://www.amazon.de/Filco-Majestouch-2-Profi-Tastatur-Tenkeyless/dp/B009G0G85Q/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1417444217&sr=1-1&keywords=Filco Majestouch 2 red

or this? Not sure about the handrest thingy.

http://www.amazon.de/Corsair-Vengeance-mechanisches-Keyboard-CH-9000011-DE/dp/B00CJB8P0U/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1417443505&sr=1-1&keywords=Corsair K70


my local store also has this, which i ninjaly unpacked and tested to decide if reds are any good, not sure about the notebook keys though

http://www.amazon.de/Cherry-G80-3850LSBDE-2-MX-Board-Professional-Tastatur/dp/B00D63W7TU/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1417444290&sr=1-2&keywords=cherry board 3.0 mx




this seems really nice, but its brown

http://www.amazon.de/Filco-Majestouch-2-Profi-Tastatur-Switches/dp/B004KQOWNQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1417444552&sr=1-1&keywords=Filco Majestouch-2




DE keys and Red is surprisingly limiting


Filco makes the best Cherry MX keyboards in my opinion, that first one if you like red will do you good if you can stomach the price.
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