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Wartortle
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia504 Posts
September 04 2012 23:50 GMT
#3801
apparently it has clear switches for backspace and spacebar which makes if feel weird, also it has some loose stabilizers. I haven't seen it for myself though. If you really want a gaming branded one just get the steelseries, it will be good. but im not sure if you require blue switches or not (i assume your BW had blues).
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
September 04 2012 23:56 GMT
#3802
On September 05 2012 08:50 ToREcho[5] wrote:
apparently it has clear switches for backspace and spacebar which makes if feel weird, also it has some loose stabilizers. I haven't seen it for myself though. If you really want a gaming branded one just get the steelseries, it will be good. but im not sure if you require blue switches or not (i assume your BW had blues).


I really liked the blue, though I think brown are very similar too. I really liked the backlit thing which is why I was looking at the ducky, otherwise I would go with probably steel series or das. The feeling weird thing I wouldn't mind on the DK one, just after having 5 blackwidow ultimates crap out on me (thank god for best buys return policy) I want a keyboard that's also sturdy and will last a good long time, that I won't have to worry about dying on me if I breathe on it or something.
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Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
September 05 2012 00:01 GMT
#3803
Wow on elitekeyboards.com , leopold tenkeyless for 99$.. thought to myself.. wow, this is amazing.. look up shipping.. 50$ ROFL no way ever.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
Wartortle
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia504 Posts
September 05 2012 00:11 GMT
#3804
On September 05 2012 08:56 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 08:50 ToREcho[5] wrote:
apparently it has clear switches for backspace and spacebar which makes if feel weird, also it has some loose stabilizers. I haven't seen it for myself though. If you really want a gaming branded one just get the steelseries, it will be good. but im not sure if you require blue switches or not (i assume your BW had blues).


I really liked the blue, though I think brown are very similar too. I really liked the backlit thing which is why I was looking at the ducky, otherwise I would go with probably steel series or das. The feeling weird thing I wouldn't mind on the DK one, just after having 5 blackwidow ultimates crap out on me (thank god for best buys return policy) I want a keyboard that's also sturdy and will last a good long time, that I won't have to worry about dying on me if I breathe on it or something.


have you looked at the TT esports meka G1? It has a really nice feel to it, even though its blacks. But most importantly is probably the most solidly build keyboard ever. A good investment if you want it to last. Also has usb ports at the back and headphone jacks for a little extra utility.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
September 05 2012 00:20 GMT
#3805
On September 05 2012 09:11 ToREcho[5] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 08:56 hunts wrote:
On September 05 2012 08:50 ToREcho[5] wrote:
apparently it has clear switches for backspace and spacebar which makes if feel weird, also it has some loose stabilizers. I haven't seen it for myself though. If you really want a gaming branded one just get the steelseries, it will be good. but im not sure if you require blue switches or not (i assume your BW had blues).


I really liked the blue, though I think brown are very similar too. I really liked the backlit thing which is why I was looking at the ducky, otherwise I would go with probably steel series or das. The feeling weird thing I wouldn't mind on the DK one, just after having 5 blackwidow ultimates crap out on me (thank god for best buys return policy) I want a keyboard that's also sturdy and will last a good long time, that I won't have to worry about dying on me if I breathe on it or something.


have you looked at the TT esports meka G1? It has a really nice feel to it, even though its blacks. But most importantly is probably the most solidly build keyboard ever. A good investment if you want it to last. Also has usb ports at the back and headphone jacks for a little extra utility.


The ports never really mattered to me. Mainly I guess I want something with blue or brown switches, and backlit. Backlit not being a requirement but it is something I'd really like. After some reading the 2 things I like are ducky (probably the DK series since shine is out of stock ) but would like to know more about the quality. If anyone has expirience with the ducky boards and their actual quality I would really appreciate it.
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rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
September 05 2012 00:23 GMT
#3806
I have several friends using Ducky boards and none of them have any bad things to say about them.

Afaik, Ducky boards are Costar as well (same manufacturer as Filco I believe) so they should be of good quality.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
September 05 2012 00:27 GMT
#3807
On September 05 2012 09:20 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 09:11 ToREcho[5] wrote:
On September 05 2012 08:56 hunts wrote:
On September 05 2012 08:50 ToREcho[5] wrote:
apparently it has clear switches for backspace and spacebar which makes if feel weird, also it has some loose stabilizers. I haven't seen it for myself though. If you really want a gaming branded one just get the steelseries, it will be good. but im not sure if you require blue switches or not (i assume your BW had blues).


I really liked the blue, though I think brown are very similar too. I really liked the backlit thing which is why I was looking at the ducky, otherwise I would go with probably steel series or das. The feeling weird thing I wouldn't mind on the DK one, just after having 5 blackwidow ultimates crap out on me (thank god for best buys return policy) I want a keyboard that's also sturdy and will last a good long time, that I won't have to worry about dying on me if I breathe on it or something.


have you looked at the TT esports meka G1? It has a really nice feel to it, even though its blacks. But most importantly is probably the most solidly build keyboard ever. A good investment if you want it to last. Also has usb ports at the back and headphone jacks for a little extra utility.


The ports never really mattered to me. Mainly I guess I want something with blue or brown switches, and backlit. Backlit not being a requirement but it is something I'd really like. After some reading the 2 things I like are ducky (probably the DK series since shine is out of stock ) but would like to know more about the quality. If anyone has expirience with the ducky boards and their actual quality I would really appreciate it.


How long have they had them? Sorry to be skeptical after my blackwidow expirience, just I remember people with that also saying it was good, and then people that have had it for a few months would start talking about problems. But yeah if anyone knows and could give someone as uneducated in the subject as me a sort of scale of quality of boards involving brands like razer, steel series, ducky, das, filco I would greately appreciate it. But yeah right now ducky is the one I was looking at.
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Wartortle
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia504 Posts
September 05 2012 00:40 GMT
#3808
people generally give blackwidow a good review as its their first mechanical keyboard (as they are more widely accessible than the other brands). you say your looking at the ducky, but the shine and the TKL are two different models. As already said, Ive heard bad things about the clear switches on the backspace and spacebar on the TKL, but nothing about that on the shine. filco das and ducky are generally better than any of the 'gaming' brands, steelseries > razer imo. afaik ducky is from taiwan and filco is from japan actually. i recommend you go to youtube and watch as many reviews as you can on whatever youre interested in.
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
September 05 2012 00:49 GMT
#3809
On September 05 2012 09:40 ToREcho[5] wrote:
people generally give blackwidow a good review as its their first mechanical keyboard (as they are more widely accessible than the other brands). you say your looking at the ducky, but the shine and the TKL are two different models. As already said, Ive heard bad things about the clear switches on the backspace and spacebar on the TKL, but nothing about that on the shine. filco das and ducky are generally better than any of the 'gaming' brands, steelseries > razer imo. afaik ducky is from taiwan and filco is from japan actually. i recommend you go to youtube and watch as many reviews as you can on whatever youre interested in.

Its because Razer has done fucking well in advertising their product to gamers out there. They sponsor many progamers and progaming teams and have gotten their name out there. Steel Series would be behind Razer. As a result of the advertising many people just simply think their Razer product is the shit when they break their "mechanical keyboard cherry". Although six months to a year later they usually break down because of some issue. That's why we see so many posts and threads about razer keyboard issues. The SS 6gv2 seems to be built pretty well.

Anyways enough of my ranting. I'd recommend either filcos or leopolds if you can get a hold of them. I've literally only seen a handful of negativity towards the products in the past year. They're pretty solid brands with solid products.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 00:58:26
September 05 2012 00:53 GMT
#3810
lol I'm an idiot, I just realized the TKL one is without the numpad So yeah I guess if I go with ducky I'd have to go with the shine, which is out of stock, which means more time on a cheap shitty keyboard again after spending about a year on the black widow

Ok this is the only shine in stock, are they all out of stock because of shine 2 coming out in the near future?

http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=11937

Looks basically like what I want, though I'd prefer blue or brown switches, but I haven't tried other ones. I heard reds are better than blue/brown for RTS gaming too?
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 01:06:49
September 05 2012 00:58 GMT
#3811
On September 05 2012 09:53 hunts wrote:
Eoe I'm an idiot, I just realized the TKL one is without the numpad So yeah I guess if I go with ducky I'd have to go with the shine, which is out of stock, which means more time on a cheap shitty keyboard again after spending about a year on the black widow

TKL means tenkey-less. Which basically means there is no numpad. I personally like TKL boards for gaming. They feel more right for gaming for some reason, I don't know why.

On September 05 2012 09:53 hunts wrote:
Ok this is the only shine in stock, are they all out of stock because of shine 2 coming out in the near future?

http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=11937

Looks basically like what I want, though I'd prefer blue or brown switches, but I haven't tried other ones. I heard reds are better than blue/brown for RTS gaming too?

No, tigerimports just sells out a lot apparently. I'd reckon they're using some marketing technique, because no way they are actually selling out like every damn time I view their website unless they have low stock on keyboards all the time. However that would make no sense because if it really is selling out a lot they should be buying in bulks to get a discount. More profit in the end. Although anyways...have you owned any mechanical keyboards before? Or are you looking for your first? We HONESTLY can't tell you what you'll like. What people say for what the switches are used for are general guidelines for new people. People say that you shouldn't play RTS games with blue switches. Yet I find it very comfortable to use blue switches for SC2. This is where its up to you to decide what you feel you may like best given all the information about cherry switches that are out there.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 01:12:16
September 05 2012 01:12 GMT
#3812
On September 05 2012 09:58 Sovano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 09:53 hunts wrote:
Eoe I'm an idiot, I just realized the TKL one is without the numpad So yeah I guess if I go with ducky I'd have to go with the shine, which is out of stock, which means more time on a cheap shitty keyboard again after spending about a year on the black widow

TKL means tenkey-less. Which basically means there is no numpad. I personally like TKL boards for gaming. They feel more right for gaming for some reason, I don't know why.

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 09:53 hunts wrote:
Ok this is the only shine in stock, are they all out of stock because of shine 2 coming out in the near future?

http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=11937

Looks basically like what I want, though I'd prefer blue or brown switches, but I haven't tried other ones. I heard reds are better than blue/brown for RTS gaming too?

No, tigerimports just sells out a lot apparently. I'd reckon they're using some marketing technique, because no way they are actually selling out like every damn time I view their website unless they have low stock on keyboards all the time. However that would make no sense because if it really is selling out a lot they should be buying in bulks to get a discount. More profit in the end. Although anyways...have you owned any mechanical keyboards before? Or are you looking for your first? We HONESTLY can't tell you what you'll like. What people say for what the switches are used for are general guidelines for new people. People say that you shouldn't play RTS games with blue switches. Yet I find it very comfortable to use blue switches for SC2. This is where its up to you to decide what you feel you may like best given all the information about cherry switches that are out there.


Yeah I said it earlier I bought a blackwidow ultiamte about a year ago, since then I've gone through 5 of them because they kept dying on me, and thanks to best buys great customer service (and me paying for the extended warrenty) I was able to keep exchanging them, well this time they were out since the blackwidow ultiamte is discontinud to be replaced by the 2012 version which they don't have, so they just gave me my money back. I did really like the black widow, I liked the blue switches feeling clicky, and I liked the fancy looking LEDs. That was the main reason I was looking at ducky over the other options, was having backlighting.

edit: again thanks a lot for helping me out
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
September 05 2012 02:08 GMT
#3813
On September 05 2012 09:53 hunts wrote:
lol I'm an idiot, I just realized the TKL one is without the numpad So yeah I guess if I go with ducky I'd have to go with the shine, which is out of stock, which means more time on a cheap shitty keyboard again after spending about a year on the black widow

Ok this is the only shine in stock, are they all out of stock because of shine 2 coming out in the near future?

http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=11937

Looks basically like what I want, though I'd prefer blue or brown switches, but I haven't tried other ones. I heard reds are better than blue/brown for RTS gaming too?


Ducky Shine is your best bet if you want backlighting (unless you want to splurge on a Deck legend).

The Shine 2 is coming, it gets to an Australian store at the end of the month so there should be some around then.

As for switches, its all opinion. Did you like the blue switches on your BW?
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 02:47:24
September 05 2012 02:43 GMT
#3814
On September 05 2012 11:08 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 09:53 hunts wrote:
lol I'm an idiot, I just realized the TKL one is without the numpad So yeah I guess if I go with ducky I'd have to go with the shine, which is out of stock, which means more time on a cheap shitty keyboard again after spending about a year on the black widow

Ok this is the only shine in stock, are they all out of stock because of shine 2 coming out in the near future?

http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=11937

Looks basically like what I want, though I'd prefer blue or brown switches, but I haven't tried other ones. I heard reds are better than blue/brown for RTS gaming too?


Ducky Shine is your best bet if you want backlighting (unless you want to splurge on a Deck legend).

The Shine 2 is coming, it gets to an Australian store at the end of the month so there should be some around then.

As for switches, its all opinion. Did you like the blue switches on your BW?


Yeah I liked the blue, though I did wish they were a bit quieter. Is red very different from them?

The deck legend is a bit more than what I'd want to pay, but if it's significantly better than the ducky and especially the blackwidow then I'd buy it. Would you say it's high enough in quality to justify that price? Or would the duckie basically be almost the same for less?

edit again: The legend actually looks really nice. How good is it quality wise? Also I can expect most other mechanical keyboards to not be like the black widow where I'm afraid of breathing on it for fear that it will break, right?
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
AceLight
Profile Joined March 2012
New Zealand220 Posts
September 05 2012 03:44 GMT
#3815
On September 04 2012 12:48 AceLight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 13:12 AceLight wrote:
On September 02 2012 11:08 AceLight wrote:
On September 02 2012 07:42 divito wrote:
On September 02 2012 05:55 AceLight wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/cbiid.jpg

Anyone interested in getting some of these? It seems the sets will cost around $30 each for the numpad. Saw these on Geekhack and currently in the process of contacting the owner. The more interest, the cheaper we can get.

That would be pretty sweet, if only I played zerg.


Not only zerg players can love a good numpad

EDIT: If anyone is interested, just shoot me a PM and I'll keep you updated.

Also, pricing on the numpad will look like this -

2 buyers = 29.50 USD each
3 = 25 <----
4 = 23.25
5 = 22
6 = 21.17
...
10 = 17.80
...
20 = 15.02


Moar Pics!

http://i50.tinypic.com/10i6kvk.jpg


UPDATE

WASDKeyboards has given me an invoice of $20 a set + shipping, which should be no more then $3.
If you want a set, send me a PM and I'll give you the instructions.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
September 05 2012 05:11 GMT
#3816
So after looking around I found this
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=103&products_id=26845
That looks good, and only a bit more expensive than the blackwidow ultimate I had was. Can anyone tell me if those are good quality/durable or if there are any bad things about the deck legends?
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AceLight
Profile Joined March 2012
New Zealand220 Posts
September 05 2012 06:03 GMT
#3817
On September 05 2012 14:11 hunts wrote:
So after looking around I found this
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=103&products_id=26845
That looks good, and only a bit more expensive than the blackwidow ultimate I had was. Can anyone tell me if those are good quality/durable or if there are any bad things about the deck legends?


Decks are sweet keyboards. I dont like the font of them, but otherwise I found mine reliable.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 06:05:34
September 05 2012 06:04 GMT
#3818
On September 05 2012 14:11 hunts wrote:
So after looking around I found this
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=103&products_id=26845
That looks good, and only a bit more expensive than the blackwidow ultimate I had was. Can anyone tell me if those are good quality/durable or if there are any bad things about the deck legends?


I have heard they are excellent (they need to be for the price), but don't have one. If you are spending $190 definitely read some reviews. But keep in mind almost all keyboard reviews are positive, you should also look for forum posts from people that use them for more than a week. I think I remember reading a Deck legend forum (here), so go scout that out.

Also the one you linked (and all decks) comes in black or clear (heavier browns) switches. These are the two heaviest switches, now this might be cancelled out by the high quality (thus heavy) key caps, Im not sure. They are not significantly heavier than blues, but it is noticable.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
September 05 2012 06:07 GMT
#3819
On September 05 2012 15:04 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 14:11 hunts wrote:
So after looking around I found this
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=103&products_id=26845
That looks good, and only a bit more expensive than the blackwidow ultimate I had was. Can anyone tell me if those are good quality/durable or if there are any bad things about the deck legends?


I have heard they are excellent (they need to be for the price), but don't have one. If you are spending $190 definitely read some reviews. But keep in mind almost all keyboard reviews are positive, you should also look for forum posts from people that use them for more than a week. I think I remember reading a Deck legend forum (here), so go scout that out.

Also the one you linked (and all decks) comes in black or clear (heavier browns) switches. These are the two heaviest switches, now this might be cancelled out by the high quality (thus heavy) key caps, Im not sure. They are not significantly heavier than blues, but it is noticable.


I thought browns were the 2nd lightest?
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
September 05 2012 06:32 GMT
#3820
On September 05 2012 15:07 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 15:04 Blaec wrote:
On September 05 2012 14:11 hunts wrote:
So after looking around I found this
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=103&products_id=26845
That looks good, and only a bit more expensive than the blackwidow ultimate I had was. Can anyone tell me if those are good quality/durable or if there are any bad things about the deck legends?


I have heard they are excellent (they need to be for the price), but don't have one. If you are spending $190 definitely read some reviews. But keep in mind almost all keyboard reviews are positive, you should also look for forum posts from people that use them for more than a week. I think I remember reading a Deck legend forum (here), so go scout that out.

Also the one you linked (and all decks) comes in black or clear (heavier browns) switches. These are the two heaviest switches, now this might be cancelled out by the high quality (thus heavy) key caps, Im not sure. They are not significantly heavier than blues, but it is noticable.


I thought browns were the 2nd lightest?


They are but Decks don't come in browns, only in clears or blacks. Clears are basically brown switches with a heavier spring in them. From what I have heard they are abit of a love/hate switch, but again they might work in a Deck.
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