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kunstderfugue
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico375 Posts
March 16 2016 01:19 GMT
#11561
On March 15 2016 08:44 Ropid wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On March 15 2016 05:02 kunstderfugue wrote:
Is this motherboard fine for Athlon X4 860K Overclocking? Asus A88XM-E

Just looking at the pictures, I would be scared to overclock with the board. It looks like there's so very little parts used to supply power to the CPU. It's the area around the socket where you see that row of cylinder shaped parts with another row of cube shaped parts and then a whole bunch of small chips that all look the same. Those small chips get very hot. If a board has more of them, each single one will have to do less work. The board is also missing a heat-sink on those small chips.

To find information about this topic, google for forum posts that explain AMD overclocking and discuss the quality of the VRM = "voltage regulator module" area of different boards. The small chips that get very hot are named "mosfet".


Thank you for the info! I'll get investigating and it's a shame that all the <60$ A88X boards i've run into don't overclock. I guess i can't expect premium out of cheap models.
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kunstderfugue
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico375 Posts
March 16 2016 01:58 GMT
#11562
Looks like this model ASRock FM2A88X PRO3+ has a heatsink over the VRM with a reasonable price tag. It's hard to count the number of chips down below the heatsink so maybe i'm going to have to resort to online reviews to find it.
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Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
March 16 2016 21:03 GMT
#11563
So just recently, (2 days ago) my google chrome started flickering white randomly when I scroll up and down. Once this happens, the browser (but not the address bar or bookmarks) start randomly flashing white and flickering when i move my mouse. I have to left click again and it usually puts me at the bottom of the page and stops, until it randomly happens again.

I have tried uninstalling and re-installing chrome, resetting original settings, clearing cookies/caches, disabling all extensions and updating my video drivers. Nothing seems to work.

It doesnt happen in either firefox or Internet explorer, and it just started happening randomly 2 days ago. I did install a new router, but I cant imagine that is affecting only chrome. Any ideas what would be causing this?
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
ExChill
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany179 Posts
March 17 2016 10:01 GMT
#11564
Try disabling smooth scrolling which came with the latest update one or two days ago.
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Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1951 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 19:15:10
March 19 2016 19:11 GMT
#11565
Hey Guys, quick question. I am currently experiencing trouble playing music with Windows Media Player. The Taskmanager shows no special applications running and the idle thread has mostly 95% of my cpu power. However, the hdd seems to work 24/7 ( i can hear it) and the music is stopped for seconds over and over again. So i disabled my virus software for some time to check that option, no effect. Windows updates are not running automatically. They should not be doing anything. Then i startet a tool called ProcessMonitor to see what could be running, but i have no idea how to effectively use it. I deactivated some other stuff with no effect and now i am unsure how to proceed Anybody got an idea what could cause this?

It felt like sonething installed stuff for the last 30 minutes. It was good now for a few minutes and now it's back...
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 19:59:00
March 19 2016 19:50 GMT
#11566
Not sure if this applies to win8/10 but windows 7 has a tool called the Resource Monitor.

In the "Disk" tab of that you can see hard drive utilization in MB/s and the current queue length for drive access. If there's nothing accessing it, that will be down at 0. If something disk-intensive is running, it will be a lot higher. When you boot windows on a HDD, this value can be quite high for as long as 5-15 minutes as a huge queue of stuff is loaded/ran but with SSD it usually gets to 0 much, much faster and stays pinned closer to 0.

That tab also lists disk access speeds by process and a list of disk activity. With a HDD it's quite possible for some silly tasks that are running to destroy system performance, even for basic stuff like dragging a file, opening a folder or playing some music.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 19:53:09
March 19 2016 19:52 GMT
#11567
Make the task manager show all processes, not just those that belong to your user. It might be Windows Update doing stuff in the background, like working on installing Windows 10 or something.

The HDD might be failing. Use a tool like "CrystalDiskInfo" to look at the drive's "SMART" data where it records past events. Post a screenshot if you think something's suspicious and want to ask. You can get explanations for the various entries in there on Wikipedia in the article named "S.M.A.R.T.".
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24754 Posts
March 19 2016 19:53 GMT
#11568
Is it better to let windows update install windows 10 or to do a fresh install? If you are doing a fresh install (wiping your hd and then using a flash drive to boot/install), what do you need to do so that microsoft will know you are licensed to install windows 10 (specifically, that you got the win10 popup on windows 7)?
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
March 19 2016 21:29 GMT
#11569
On March 20 2016 04:53 micronesia wrote:
Is it better to let windows update install windows 10 or to do a fresh install? If you are doing a fresh install (wiping your hd and then using a flash drive to boot/install), what do you need to do so that microsoft will know you are licensed to install windows 10 (specifically, that you got the win10 popup on windows 7)?

This is how it worked when Windows 10 came out:

You first let Windows Update do it. After the update, the particular PC is known with Microsoft's activation servers. You can then wipe the drive and do a fresh installation and skip the product key screen without entering a key. Windows 10 activates without a key after the installation because the Microsoft servers remember the PC.

The thing I'm unsure about is that I heard something about Microsoft allowing you to enter a Windows 7 or 8 product key for the Windows 10 installation in recent Windows 10 versions. I don't know if that's true.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
March 19 2016 23:05 GMT
#11570
On March 17 2016 19:01 ExChill wrote:
Try disabling smooth scrolling which came with the latest update one or two days ago.



Wow that worked, thank you SO fucking much. It was driving me crazy!!! Thanks again!
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kunstderfugue
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico375 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 23:56:48
March 19 2016 23:54 GMT
#11571
Do you guys think it's legit to buy software at https://www.reddit.com/r/microsoftsoftwareswap?

+ How much space would I need for a Windows 10 flash drive? How about a drive that can install many different OSs? I assume you'd have to partition it for that purpose.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
March 20 2016 01:41 GMT
#11572
There has already been drama over those subreddits a while ago
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-20 18:38:45
March 20 2016 18:28 GMT
#11573
i have BT internet with their router in a 4 man shared house

i have 2 questions

1) i speedtest at 30mb but every 24-48 hours it permanently drops to 1-4mb with fucked ping. this continues until i turn off router for a few minutes then on again. like i said it happens every 1 or 2 days constantly

2) if computers work in a matter of microseconds why does it take approx 4 minutes for the router to turn on again
*edited , it took like 8 mins just now but it was still fucked after i had turned it off for 2 minutes, the second attempt it took only ~4 mins to boot up*
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17278 Posts
March 20 2016 19:03 GMT
#11574
Sounds like a dying router.

In any event, computers tend to work in milliseconds, not microseconds, but that's referring to computations once the computer is already running and "ready." Accessing RAM is orders of magnitude faster than accessing permanent storage, especially on devices like a router where you can cheap out on the permanent storage because you'll only need it in very infrequent intervals (basically when it boots up or saves a configuration change). Additionally, there's a lot of "stuff" going on when you boot something up, to the point where you have actions effectively queued while it tries to process through everything.

Once it's up and ready, the job of a residential router is pretty trivial. Routers generally work by maintaining a table of known ip addresses, effectively saying "if a packet requests this IP range, send it through this port." Since home networks are tiny and basically every request is going out externally, that means the only determination it's making is "do I send this packet to the 'ISP port' or to one of the LAN ports." ISP routers deal with much more complex routing involving things like maintaining route metrics (to send it through the best current path), load balancing, node failures, etc. Given how little a home router does and how relatively unimportant boot up time is, there's no reason to increase product costs by trying to improve that area.
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
March 20 2016 19:36 GMT
#11575
tnx
so in laymens terms
"because its shit"
lol
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
March 20 2016 22:08 GMT
#11576
There could be a bug in its software that makes it slow after those two days of running.

It could be getting hot. If it's just hot, there might be something you could do, like see if it behaves differently when it's upright instead of laying down (or the reverse).

As it's not yours, I guess you should ask your ISP for help? They could have a firmware update or a different router that doesn't have this problem.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 00:57:31
March 21 2016 00:52 GMT
#11577
im moving out in 3 weeks so dont really care just curious
its not hot , it goes back up to 30mb from 1-4mb after being turned off for 5 mins and this is england
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just annoying when u have housemates who are like WTF DO U WANNA TURN OFF THE INTERNET ALL THE TIME???? when i only done it like 3x in 3 months and also when simultaeniously they are whining that they have shit internet even when i show them the graph of it at 30Mbit after rebooting it and then they are like WELL HANG ON i bought this extender thing lets waste an hour trying to get it to work when it has nothing to do with the problem then they think they got it working when really they are just connected to the normal router and i rebooted it jesus christ . and a new housemate just moved in and it looks like this new one has also never heard of a light switch and puts the toilet lid down when flushing too, i literally gave up turning lights off in this house coz its like they are turning them back on just to spite me . also i swear to god i have never seen someone slam a front door so hard a 4 bedroom house shakes to its core at 5am every morning , just because they can't figure out you have to lift the door a fraction in order to close it quietly , i literally have never heard a door slam this loud in my life and it happens like every other day, i honestly have given up with the human race and about to turn completely republican i swear to god. im talking i wake up at 8am and the lights are all on, i get home at 8pm and the lights are all on, no one is in, every day, it actually defies belief, the router has probably just gone crazy from living with such shitty people for so long
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17278 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 01:39:04
March 21 2016 01:31 GMT
#11578
On March 21 2016 04:36 FFGenerations wrote:
tnx
so in laymens terms
"because its shit"
lol

Slow bootup doesn't make hardware bad. Faster bootup is going to translate into increased costs. When the typical consumer only goes through the boot process once every few months (pretty much just power outages), why increase the cost to make it faster? You're going to negatively impact sales doing that.

I don't remember the commercial routers I've worked with booting up much faster than my home router. They're designed to stay on for extremely long periods of time. That said, they're increasingly being virtualized so I don't really know what the "boot" speeds for those are.
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Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1951 Posts
March 21 2016 12:34 GMT
#11579
Thanks Ropid and Cyro, i'll try this.
Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
March 23 2016 17:59 GMT
#11580
Ok so my current PC is really, really old old and I think its slowly dieing. here are the specs if this is improtant:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/426532-computer-build-upgrade-and-buying-resource-thread?page=492#9831
when I watch youtube or streams my CPU gets crazy hot. It easily reaches up to 100 °C. Everything else seems to be fine. It goes down as soon as I close the window/stop the video.
So here are my questions:
1). Is there any way I can do something about this? (maybe heat paste)
2.) Should I save important data in case something happens?
3.) What would be the worst case that could happen?

I hope the way I asked is okay. If anything is wrong with the way I asked, please tell me I try to rephrase them as best as I can.
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