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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227507&leaderboard=1 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883258065R What do you guys think? Am I getting my money's worth if I purchase one of these computers? I'm not looking for anything fancy or high tech. I just want a decently priced computer that has decent graphics for gaming. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
If you pretend like the second one isn't open box, it's a good deal if you also would need to purchase a Windows license ($100), slightly better than the cost of components, but they sure did skimp on the power supply (and case). | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
On August 02 2014 23:04 Myrmidon wrote: If you pretend like the second one isn't open box, it's a good deal if you also would need to purchase a Windows license ($100), slightly better than the cost of components, but they sure did skimp on the power supply (and case). Could you explain what you mean by this part? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20335 Posts
windows license i'm not sure - other stuff, prebuilt systems very often use cheap cases and power supplies because most people don't know what to look for to get quality in those areas, and it's a "hidden" way to bring costs down at the expense of final quality sometimes 760 should be significantly more than 2x over 650, the 650 is pretty bad. 650 to 650ti takes you from two SMX to four, so you can't really compare 650ti < 760 and imagine 650 to be close to 650ti for a similar result | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On August 02 2014 23:32 Seeker wrote: Could you explain what you mean by this part? I understand it like this: (1) The one with the great processor and graphics card is "open box", meaning a customer sent it back after taking a look at it. (2) If you build a PC yourself, you need to buy a Windows license. That's about $100 normally. While building a PC yourself might get you a similar machine for this money, you will not manage to do this if you have to pay those $100 for Windows. Not everyone has to pay full price for Windows. A student will often have access to some deal through the school and get it a lot cheaper. Microsoft themselves also have special student pricing for their software. Some people get Windows cheap through work. (3) You can see "Lepa" printed on a paper shown in one of the pictures. That's the PSU brand. While those also sell expensive PSUs that are fine, you would not buy their cheapest PSUs if you build a PC yourself, and one of those is probably in this PC. The crappy cases flex more because the metal is thinner, might also transmit the vibrations from HDD and fans easier because of that, the screws might rust, you might cut yourself and bleed every time you have to work on its insides, just general quality stuff like that. I have no idea if it also has issues with its design like its air flow. A case is still just a box, so not really important that it's not a nice case.  | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On August 02 2014 00:14 PassiveAce wrote: hi guys, im having some serious trouble installing window and its driving me nuts. i finally got my hardware problems solved thanks to some help in this thread but now im having trouble installing windows. when the installation begins it always gets stuck at 0% on 'Expanding Windows Files' and cant advance. iv tried it with 2 harddrives and an ssd and always the same result. iv reset uefi settings and switched out sata cables. I ran a check on my ram with the windows ram checker program that came on the disk and it didnt reveal any issues. this thing has me pretty stumped and I would really appreciate any help  its been able to install ubuntu just fine so thats what iv been using but id really like to get back to windows. lemme know if theres any more info that could help diagnose this issue it's probably whatever you're installing from that's the problem maybe the dvd you're installing from is faulty, maybe the USB stick you're installing from is also faulty i would probably rule out a problem with the SSD and the HDDs since there's close to 0% chance that all three are faulty. however perhaps you could format one of those (no ubuntu or anything) and try to install from that, while having none of the other devices connected to your computer. sometimes storage has boot files which can cause messes that in turn leaves us with the cpu/motherboard/ram which might be causing the problem. in which case it's probably good to say what exactly you have, though i can't think of anything that might help. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
I have a ASRock z97 Extreme4 motherboard, an intel core i3-4130 CPU, and two sticks of XMS3 corsair 4gb ram. the ram is definitely the oldest part in the machine. I know I can run memtest to find out if the ram is causing the issue, but is their any way to test the cpu and mobo without switching them out for known working parts? | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
On August 04 2014 07:43 IMoperator wrote: Alright, i want to get a new SSD but I do not want to install windows 7 on it, i already have it on my HDD and Idc about the boot times for windows. When I plug in the SSD and start the computer up, do I need to actually do anything? Or if I just leave it alone it will keep the HDD as the main boot device, right? Enjoy! http://www.computershopper.com/storage/howto/install-a-new-hard-drive-in-five-easy-steps | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
On August 02 2014 21:35 Seeker wrote: I'm currently looking to buy a new computer. I got some help from a friend who provided me with 2 links. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227507&leaderboard=1 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883258065R What do you guys think? Am I getting my money's worth if I purchase one of these computers? I'm not looking for anything fancy or high tech. I just want a decently priced computer that has decent graphics for gaming. So my friend provided 2 new links since the one he gave me earlier said Open Box Here are the new links: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883258098&cm_re=avatar_gaming_i5-_-83-258-098-_-Product http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883258065&cm_re=avatar_gaming_i5-_-83-258-065-_-Product Looks like the 2nd one is the better choice. What do you guys think? | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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z0rz
United States350 Posts
On August 04 2014 14:10 Seeker wrote: So my friend provided 2 new links since the one he gave me earlier said Open Box Here are the new links: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883258098&cm_re=avatar_gaming_i5-_-83-258-098-_-Product http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883258065&cm_re=avatar_gaming_i5-_-83-258-065-_-Product Looks like the 2nd one is the better choice. What do you guys think? GTX 760 is a lot better than GTX 750Ti, so you're right about your 2nd link being better than the 1st. I'd lean more towards something like this ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227578 ) since the Source 210 is a pretty good case for what it is (although the blue trim might be a bit tacky to some) vs that gross Enermax shit Avatar uses. You would never notice the difference between an i5-4570 and an i5-4460 (same base clock, only 200MHz difference in turbo), so you might as well get the cheaper one. Other than that and Windows 7 vs Windows 8, there's probably not much difference between the iBUYPOWER and your 2nd Avatar link; they probably use the same shitty microATX H81 mobo and no-name RAM/PSU | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
On August 04 2014 16:54 icystorage wrote: are cheap fans (<$5) enough when used for intake/exhaust case fans? follow-up, i just opened my case and it looks like i only have 1 4-pin plug(idk what it is  ), so does this mean i only have 1 power for a fan? what i want 1 for exhaust and 1 for intake? should i change PSU or any alternatives?i'm doing this since it looks like my case has no case fans | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On August 04 2014 18:17 icystorage wrote: follow-up, i just opened my case and it looks like i only have 1 4-pin plug(idk what it is ), so does this mean i only have 1 power for a fan? what i want 1 for exhaust and 1 for intake? should i change PSU or any alternatives?i'm doing this since it looks like my case has no case fans No case fans at all? What case do you have? That 4 pin plug is probably for case fans, generally they're labelled SYSFAN1 or something. You can buy yourself a pwm fan splitter (it's 4 pin, so it's pwm, which means the fan's speed can be controlled by the computer through the BIOS) and plug that in. This should allow you to run 2 case fans without any problem. Fan splitters cost a few €/$. This is a fan splitter: ![[image loading]](http://www.akasa.com.tw/img/product/common/feature/00/AK-CBFA04-15_f00.jpg) Otherwise good cheap fans for under $5 are somewhat hard to find. What size fans are you getting? 120mm? 92mm ? What's your retailer? | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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