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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/15 - 15.9 inch/63164/Special item: HP Pavilion g6-1217sg.article 474€ i5-2430m with hd6470m will be capable of low end gaming easily only problem i see with it is only 1 year warranty (and 5400rpm hdd, but that's with all low price laptops) or this one http://www2.hardwareversand.de/15 - 15.9 inch/62527/Special item: ASUS X54C-SO155V.article 426€ i3-2350m with intel HD 3000 2 years warranty i'd personally go for the secodn one for his usage | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
On July 31 2012 05:20 Myrmidon wrote: Which streaming site? I guess most use Adobe Flash? I'm not sure what exactly it does on fullscreen mode, but most likely the CPU or GPU is scaling the image to fit your full monitor resolution. There are very many different scaling algorithms that can be used for resizing in general—different scaling algorithms have different computational complexity, sharpness, aliasing artifacts, ringing artifacts, and more, so there are tradeoffs. If you're playing a game and making your video card output 720p to a 900p monitor, you're using the monitor's built-in scaler to stretch the image to the 900p. Most monitors have a scaler that sucks balls, so it's no surprise that the image sucks. Pretty much everything, youtube videos, twitch, own3d, even youtube on html5 full screen watching a game that I have the exact same settings on in 720p looks sharper than my game. I have my nvidia panel set to scale with GPU but not "override program settings" guess I'll try that. | ||
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MisterJulianMan
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SoulWager
United States464 Posts
On August 01 2012 00:00 MisterJulianMan wrote: When I stream my framerate is still good around 70 but It feels sluggish and rough, also screen tearing and skipping are present even when vsync on the nvidia control panel is forced. Its only like this when I start streaming. How do I remedy this? gamesource, dxtory, or capture card. | ||
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LovE-
United States1963 Posts
CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 GPU: GTX 460 768 mb RAM: 4GB DDR3 WIn 7 My upload speed is ~1.0 Now if I want to stream @ 720p on XSplit with a good frame rate on low or medium graphics setting (Sc2), what is holding me back the most? Is it my CPU or graphics card? Or both? Thanks for the help! | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On July 31 2012 23:44 Count9 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 31 2012 05:20 Myrmidon wrote: Which streaming site? I guess most use Adobe Flash? I'm not sure what exactly it does on fullscreen mode, but most likely the CPU or GPU is scaling the image to fit your full monitor resolution. There are very many different scaling algorithms that can be used for resizing in general—different scaling algorithms have different computational complexity, sharpness, aliasing artifacts, ringing artifacts, and more, so there are tradeoffs. If you're playing a game and making your video card output 720p to a 900p monitor, you're using the monitor's built-in scaler to stretch the image to the 900p. Most monitors have a scaler that sucks balls, so it's no surprise that the image sucks. Pretty much everything, youtube videos, twitch, own3d, even youtube on html5 full screen watching a game that I have the exact same settings on in 720p looks sharper than my game. I have my nvidia panel set to scale with GPU but not "override program settings" guess I'll try that. This is normal. LCD monitors look best at native resolution. When you run non-native it will have some degree of blurryness or other nastyness. I don't know how the magic algorithms for scaling video work, but they do work well and this isn't anything new either. If you want to dive into the technical details,well, sorry I don't know them... maybe someone else can point us both to them. On August 01 2012 01:07 LovE- wrote: + Show Spoiler + Okay so this is my current build: CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 GPU: GTX 460 768 mb RAM: 4GB DDR3 WIn 7 My upload speed is ~1.0 Now if I want to stream @ 720p on XSplit with a good frame rate on low or medium graphics setting (Sc2), what is holding me back the most? Is it my CPU or graphics card? Or both? Thanks for the help! Video card never matters for streaming because no program uses GPU-acceleration to encode. They all run on the CPU like most other software. Your upload speed is pretty low. I don't think you'll be able to have a decent 1280x720 stream, especially if the Ph II x4 is not overclocked. Try 960x540 and play around with other settings (probably you'll be able to do about 25 FPS max, XSplit Default preset, quality 6 to 8 or so). There's plenty of guides around.... | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On August 01 2012 01:07 LovE- wrote: + Show Spoiler + Okay so this is my current build: CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 GPU: GTX 460 768 mb RAM: 4GB DDR3 WIn 7 My upload speed is ~1.0 Now if I want to stream @ 720p on XSplit with a good frame rate on low or medium graphics setting (Sc2), what is holding me back the most? Is it my CPU or graphics card? Or both? Thanks for the help! What problems exactly are you having now? What are your stream settings? Encoding preset, max bitrate, buffer, fps, etc.? Both the CPU and upload speed are problems for 720p. If you had a lot higher upload speed, you could get something that looks better at the expense of higher bitrate. With a much faster CPU, you could compress the video enough acceptably in real time that it would look okay at 720p (a higher bitrate would still be advised). Unless you prioritize still-image quality over high-action quality, you should probably just lower the resolution. edit: On August 01 2012 01:16 Wabbit wrote: This is normal. LCD monitors look best at native resolution. When you run non-native it will have some degree of blurryness or other nastyness. I don't know how the magic algorithms for scaling video work, but they do work well and this isn't anything new either. If you want to dive into the technical details,well, sorry I don't know them... maybe someone else can point us both to them. Some technical details (whatever a monitor scaler is doing, is not going to be this good): http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Resampling http://http.developer.nvidia.com/GPUGems/gpugems_ch24.html Some pretty comparative pictures: http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1560193&postcount=12242 http://www.americaswonderlands.com/digital_photo_interpolation.htm | ||
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laoji
United Kingdom382 Posts
My current rig is as follows asus p5qpl-vm epu q9550 @ 2.83 ghz 4gb DDR2 800mhz MSI GTX 560 Ti 2gb edition 500gb 7200rpm HDD 700w PSU over the last few years this has served me fine, but as of late it's really started to struggle with pretty much everything and i'm not sure which part is starting to let me down. What do you guys think is the most likely culprit? and what should i replace/upgrade it with? am looking to keep the cost down as i'm currently saving up rent money for my 2nd year at uni. Thanks a bunch! | ||
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-RusH
United States240 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Ranging from 140mm down to 40mm. (Havent done measurements / count yet.) Want them all one LED colour (FU i like pretty lights.) and pref. same make (So it all looks together, i dont want 2 shades of blue etc) a range of colours would be nice to choose from, but im not bothered if you can just find the one. having all the same make / colour is important. Anyone know a place? ^^ | ||
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Caliber
United States598 Posts
ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard SAPPHIRE 100314SR Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX Hey guys, recently my roommate helped me build a computer that could run SC2 very easily. It works for that purpose, but when it comes to streaming and playing SC2 at the same time I have major issues. Normally I run SC2, xsplit, and either itunes and firefox for music and I have noticed that a lot of the time when I have xsplit running and firefox open it crashes the web browser, which in turn freezes my computer, including SC2. Even when I am not running firefox, just having SC2 open and streaming it on a semi-low quality will severely lag my computer and game-play. any advice? can my computer handle what im trying to do? I had gunrun help me set up xsplit, so i dont imagine there would be an issue with those settings, and im fairly certain i have the latest drivers, etc | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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LovE-
United States1963 Posts
On August 01 2012 01:17 Myrmidon wrote: What problems exactly are you having now? What are your stream settings? Encoding preset, max bitrate, buffer, fps, etc.? Both the CPU and upload speed are problems for 720p. If you had a lot higher upload speed, you could get something that looks better at the expense of higher bitrate. With a much faster CPU, you could compress the video enough acceptably in real time that it would look okay at 720p (a higher bitrate would still be advised). Unless you prioritize still-image quality over high-action quality, you should probably just lower the resolution. Basically it is making my in game fps drop really low (from 120 to about 30) and making it really choppy and hard to play. I even went down to 480p quality and had similar issues. Unfortunately I have the best internet I could find in my region so I can't really do anything about that  I will be able to edit in my xsplit settings once I get home tonight. | ||
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m1rk3
Canada412 Posts
1) Should I get a new video card now (I know there are other questions I would have to ask as well with this one: worth upgrade, choosing the right one,etc)? Just need yes/no and short explanation Please. 2) What is the damage to other components if I wait for the video card to completely fail? 3) Where can I check the previous BSODS and what is causing the BSODS? | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On August 01 2012 10:14 m1rk3 wrote: Recently have been getting BSods. They usually happen at startup and they state that there are problems with my graphics card. I never leave my computer running/idle. Not sure if it is truly the Graphics card that's the problem. 1) Should I get a new video card now (I know there are other questions I would have to ask as well with this one: worth upgrade, choosing the right one,etc)? Just need yes/no and short explanation Please. 2) What is the damage to other components if I wait for the video card to completely fail? 3) Where can I check the previous BSODS and what is causing the BSODS? We need your full system specs to really answer your questions fully but Ill ask a few questions myself. Who said there were problems with your graphics card? There is a blue screen reader application but you said they happen at startup so not sure it works with this. Can you give us all the information the blue screen says? Can't really say much otherwise without an idea of what your system is. It could be you have a bad PSU. We need to know the make and model of that. | ||
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Iron Gecko
Ireland9 Posts
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On August 01 2012 20:31 Iron Gecko wrote: Can a Radeon 6570 paired with an Intel Core I3 processor play Sc2 on medium smoothly? Can I clean my house in 1 hour? Depends... how big is the house? For you.. what matters is the resolution. But a 6570 is capable of medium even at 1900x1200, and an i3 (even first gen) is fine. | ||
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Leeoku
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rofllocktree
Netherlands45 Posts
my pc specs: Intel(R) core(TM) i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHz 4.00Gb Ram 64 bit operating system AMD Radeon HD 6450 Graphics card to low or should there be some software issues? I updated drivers for graphics card. I cant believe even on low its not working good, i bought this pc 5 months ago for around 850 euro Help me plz, THX! | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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