EPTCherry MX -- Having hard time deciding
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
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No_Roo
United States905 Posts
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echO [W]
United States1495 Posts
Pros use all three switches so theres no one real "best". For example, IdrA uses the 6GV2 (Cherry MX Black), FruitDealer and LiquidTyler use a Filco Majestouch with Cherry MX Brown switches, and I believe that Boxer may be using a Filco with Cherry MX Blue switches. Good luck. | ||
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ALPINA
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bakedace
United States672 Posts
If I were to pick one to be the best performance wize... it would be blues. But they are loud. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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Winters
Spain53 Posts
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ALPINA
3791 Posts
On January 02 2011 19:20 zoLo wrote: Is there a site that defines each switch? You mean you want to know the difference? Here: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Senzei
United States13 Posts
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echO [W]
United States1495 Posts
On January 02 2011 19:20 zoLo wrote: Is there a site that defines each switch? In addition to the youtube video, I think some hard data would be good. I always refer people who wonder what the differences are to this: http://www.overclock.net/keyboards/491752-mechanical-keyboard-guide.html | ||
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Oproer
Netherlands108 Posts
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
Contrary to the above poster I actually think there is a big difference between switches aswell - read up on the different ones and go try them out and you'll find "your" switch soon enough  | ||
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echO [W]
United States1495 Posts
On January 02 2011 20:00 Kyuki wrote: This is a extremly subjective matter, and I can only suggest you actually find a place you can try the different switches out. Contrary to the above poster I actually think there is a big difference between switches aswell - read up on the different ones and go try them out and you'll find "your" switch soon enough I have to agree completely, after using a brown I could feel a difference between the brown and blue and I could ESPECIALLY feel the difference between a brown and a black. | ||
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Oproer
Netherlands108 Posts
I'd encourage you to try them out for a bit, but if you're not used to mechanical keyboards, I don't know if you could appreciate the difference.If you want something silent, don't get the blues though. | ||
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wargasm
94 Posts
Black: Recommended for people who are prone to typos. Pressing keys will feel like pushing down buttons. Blue: Wouldn't really recommend unless you're after clicky keyboards specifically. Stick with browns if you're after light keys. Clear: Heavier browns, hard to find. Red: No personal experience with them and they're quite hard to find. It's probably best to stick with browns and blacks in most cases. | ||
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AT_Tack
Germany435 Posts
I bought the filco blue because the feel of the browns was to "cheap" for me. now after a few weeks of practice with the filco blue my apm has increased by 50-60 apm to 200 constant now because due to the clickiness i have developed a rythmic pattern that has a very rewarding sound and so i do that all the time and my fingers got used to it now im focusing on macro more... may sound wierd but the mx blues sound has actually helped me improve! | ||
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7pool
Sweden103 Posts
It all comes down to personal preferences I guess. | ||
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hooktits
United States972 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On January 02 2011 22:19 wargasm wrote: Brown: Recommended for people who knows where all the keys are and can "touch type" with one hand Black: Recommended for people who are prone to typos. Pressing keys will feel like pushing down buttons. Blue: Wouldn't really recommend unless you're after clicky keyboards specifically. Stick with browns if you're after light keys. Clear: Heavier browns, hard to find. Red: No personal experience with them and they're quite hard to find. It's probably best to stick with browns and blacks in most cases. Blues are the most popular switch by far, how did you arrive at this conclusion? | ||
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
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ALPINA
3791 Posts
On January 03 2011 02:20 sinani206 wrote: If I was to go with blues, would I go with the Das Model S or a Razer Blackwidow? Well razer gonna be cheapest. Das gonna cost much more afaik so then better get filco if price does not matter. | ||
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cloowny
3 Posts
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ALPINA
3791 Posts
On January 03 2011 02:34 cloowny wrote: I can't find a video (youtube or any other site...) where the noise of different switches are compared. I have some hesitations between a das blue or a das brown, and i don't really know which one to chose, and noise will be a factor of choice for me. I posted comparison video in this thread. If you don't like loud keyboard definately don't go for blues. | ||
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Redunzl
862 Posts
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cloowny
3 Posts
On January 03 2011 02:37 Alpina wrote: I posted comparison video in this thread. If you don't like loud keyboard definately don't go for blues. Sorry i didn't see it first. Thanks a lot. I think i'll go with brown ones. | ||
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
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Reptilia
Chile913 Posts
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
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piskooooo
United States351 Posts
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SpoR
United States1542 Posts
On January 02 2011 19:24 Alpina wrote: You mean you want to know the difference? Here: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-axhQDkYxE On January 02 2011 19:33 echO [W] wrote: In addition to the youtube video, I think some hard data would be good. I always refer people who wonder what the differences are to this: http://www.overclock.net/keyboards/491752-mechanical-keyboard-guide.html Thank you guys so much for these links. I was always interested in getting a mechanical keyboard but didn't want to just throw money away on something that wouldn't work out. I will use this in the future when I get a chance. I wonder how the Samsung DT-35 Stacks up on those lists and in that guy's video. It is a rubber dome kb, so obviously very clicky sounding and very tactile. | ||
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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wargasm
94 Posts
On January 03 2011 00:21 floor exercise wrote: Blues are the most popular switch by far, how did you arrive at this conclusion? Source? Blues are more readily available in the US and EU which is a plausible explanation for it's "popularity" I guess. | ||
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7pool
Sweden103 Posts
It's very gorgeous though if you can keep it clean (the design). | ||
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NeoSlicerZ
Ireland470 Posts
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Akzever
Canada94 Posts
http://www.mrinterface.com/keyboardsims/das3/index.html Is the das 3/ Cherry mx blue sound You can find cherry blacks and brown simulations on his site too. under review-> simulations http://www.mrinterface.com | ||
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ThatsNoMoon
Mexico344 Posts
I've owned both and both feel AMAZING. Can't go wrong with either, and these things are tough as nails! | ||
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
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LazyMacro
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
On January 04 2011 11:52 LazyMacro wrote: If you don't like glossy keyboards like me, try out the Rosewill RK-9000. It's $100 or so on NewEgg. I love it and would recommend it. What switch is that?? | ||
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
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wargasm
94 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On January 04 2011 12:48 Mooncat wrote: As basically everyone else said, it's a very subjective matter. I have the SteelSeries 7G with black switches and I LOVE it. It feels just perfect for gaming as well as typing and I don't feel like the buttons are "hard" to press at all. However some guy claimed he got carpal tunnel using the same keyboard which is pretty ridiculous imho, but I guess that's where the "subjective" part comes in. Carpal tunnel syndrome has nothing to do with what your fingers are hitting.. it has everything to do with pinching your nerv on your wrist with bad posture and typing habits. Mech switches do nil to prevent repetitive stress injuries while typing like most things it has more to do with how the person is doing the activity then what equipment he is using. | ||
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echO [W]
United States1495 Posts
The Rosewill RK-9000 uses Cherry MX Blue switches and it is OEMed by the same people who OEM the Filco boards, in fact when you look at the controller in the board, it actually says Filco. Heres a review from geekhack: http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:12688 Enjoy! | ||
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
On January 04 2011 13:21 echO [W] wrote: The Rosewill RK-9000 uses Cherry MX Blue switches and it is OEMed by the same people who OEM the Filco boards, in fact when you look at the controller in the board, it actually says Filco. Heres a review from geekhack: http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:12688 Enjoy! Thanks for the review! | ||
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
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Hectic
Australia159 Posts
Edit. I always make stupid posts the first time i type them. | ||
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echO [W]
United States1495 Posts
On January 04 2011 18:01 Hectic wrote: I used black for the last 2 years I recently switched to blue I can tell you, without a doubt 100% black is TERRIBLE for starcraft Black switches require infinetly more effort to use and are slow. In fact, i went from being 110apm normally to 150apm efffortlessly within a few hours of use. I seriously cant stand black anymore. Now black switches on my keyboard make me feel the same way as if i was stuck in 2nd gear while i was driving down the highway in my car. I would even reccommend a regular membrane keyboard over black switches. For everyone saying they like black, i would have to guess that they have not experienced other switches for starcraft. Before I tried blue, i thought the black was best thing since sliced bread. However, in my opinion the marauder starcraft keyboard is even better than blues. The APM lighting systemis a joke, but damn, the keystrokes feel like sex on my fingers. While you think Blacks may be terrible, I still recommend people who are looking to buy mechanical keyboards if possible to try them out. Different strokes for different folks. For example, IdrA uses a Steelseries 6GV2 (Cherry MX Blacks) and obviously it works for him. | ||
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Hectic
Australia159 Posts
While you think Blacks may be terrible, I still recommend people who are looking to buy mechanical keyboards if possible to try them out. Different strokes for different folks. For example, IdrA uses a Steelseries 6GV2 (Cherry MX Blacks) and obviously it works for him. Unless Idra comes and tells us has extensively used all types of switches and prefers black, I refuse to belive that its the best thing for him. I also heard he uses a large mouse which also seems strange to me. | ||
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Touch
Canada475 Posts
IdrA uses black and complains about imbalances. Come on guys. | ||
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Larrie
United Kingdom46 Posts
To be honest there is no real difference between the three. Anyone who tries to pretend there is a large difference in how they'll make you play, is just being vain. The real difference is in sound, if you don't want a loud keyboard then black is a good choice. If you want a nice noise then blue is your choice. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On January 04 2011 19:15 Touch wrote: FruitDealer uses brown and won GSL. IdrA uses BlacK and complains about imbalances. Come on guys.  NaDa,  sAviOr, BoxeR, iloveoov won multiple osl's and msl's on cheap 10 dollar membrane keyboards pulling 300+apm in the process.Thinking a keyboard switch makes the player in any sense is just lying to yourself. | ||
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IVXX
United States71 Posts
if you try one out you'll find that its not as bad as some people say, but the extra weight is unnecessary and gets annoying to type on. generally, i say for typing: blues and topre for gaming: brown and red for sc2 i'd definitely go with brown. | ||
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echO [W]
United States1495 Posts
On January 04 2011 19:36 semantics wrote: NaDa, sAviOr, BoxeR, iloveoov won multiple osl's and msl's on cheap 10 dollar membrane keyboards pulling 300+apm in the process.Thinking a keyboard switch makes the player in any sense is just lying to yourself. I agree 100%, just as the race car does not a Dale Earnheardt Jr. make, or the most expensive pens and pencils does not a good artist make. | ||
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Mikami_
Estonia274 Posts
On January 04 2011 19:43 IVXX wrote: most people who say they like black switches have never tried the rest (blue, brown, bucking springs, alps, topre). i havent met a single person who, after trying black brown and blue, have told me blacks were best for them. if you try one out you'll find that its not as bad as some people say, but the extra weight is unnecessary and gets annoying to type on. generally, i say for typing: blues and topre for gaming: brown and red for sc2 i'd definitely go with brown. Can you tell me in detail why do you prefer brown over blue for gaming ? | ||
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ALPINA
3791 Posts
On January 04 2011 19:36 semantics wrote: NaDa, sAviOr, BoxeR, iloveoov won multiple osl's and msl's on cheap 10 dollar membrane keyboards pulling 300+apm in the process.Thinking a keyboard switch makes the player in any sense is just lying to yourself. Yeah of course most of time you are right. I changed from membrane keyboard to mechanical and my hand gets less tired over the time because you don't need to hit keyboard that hard. You don't need good keyboard to be good, but if you get mechanical keyboard it will better for you in someway anyways. | ||
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
On January 04 2011 19:43 IVXX wrote: most people who say they like black switches have never tried the rest (blue, brown, bucking springs, alps, topre). i havent met a single person who, after trying black brown and blue, have told me blacks were best for them. if you try one out you'll find that its not as bad as some people say, but the extra weight is unnecessary and gets annoying to type on. Your argument is pretty trash. I mean what is your selection of people with the first hand experience trying all switches, what do they do by the computer etc. Again it's nothing more than personal experience, and it's stupid to assume that people who like their Blacks have not tried other switches. I could type this and it would be just as bad for arguments sake: "most people who say they like brown switches have never tried the rest (blue, black, bucking springs, alps, topre). i havent met a single person who, after trying black brown and blue, have told me brown were best for them." I'm not saying your experience is wrong though, just that it's on a rather personal level. Maybe you're a switch marketer (or whatever) and put people to test this daily, which in case I'd say your experience would be more worthy for arguments sake, so correct me here if I'm wrong . | ||
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IVXX
United States71 Posts
not to say ALL people who use black switches haven't tried the rest, but a good deal of them have only tried the 6gv2 or 7g and stuck with it. the steelseries are much easier to find than filco/das/ducky so of course this is going to happen. do you guys know anyone with a filco/cherry/ducky black keyboard? i doubt it. but seriously http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=13806 http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=13305 http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=13447 as for why i prefer browns>blues (for gaming) i can double tap faster on browns, and they're lighter. | ||
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On January 05 2011 02:46 IVXX wrote: hm... not to say ALL people who use black switches haven't tried the rest, but a good deal of them have only tried the 6gv2 or 7g and stuck with it. the steelseries are much easier to find than filco/das/ducky so of course this is going to happen. do you guys know anyone with a filco/cherry/ducky black keyboard? i doubt it. but seriously http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=13806 http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=13305 http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=13447 as for why i prefer browns>blues (for gaming) i can double tap faster on browns, and they're lighter. Uhm... it was the other way around for me tbh. I was specifically looking for a keyboard with black switches and chose the 7G. Could've easily gotten Blues or Browns as well. | ||
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Aro_X
United States106 Posts
i bought the adesso keyboard and so far the blues are much more comfortable to use, the dual usb ports are in a better position than the DAS and while the audio/mic ports are useless to me, you may find some use for it.. the keyboard is also lower profile than the 6gv2 and have the adjustable legs which is TONS more comfortable to me its also about 30 dollars cheaper, the only disadvantage is the adesso has 10key roll over while the steelseries board uses full n-key roll over, and the blues are a bit louder than the blacks (i can live with these disadvantages) | ||
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CreditM
United States41 Posts
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Kinky
United States4126 Posts
On January 03 2011 02:20 sinani206 wrote: If I was to go with blues, would I go with the Das Model S or a Razer Blackwidow? They really feel the same but they sound different. I ended up getting the Blackwidow over it because it was cheaper. | ||
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Hochmeister
United States16 Posts
On January 07 2011 17:12 CreditM wrote: You know what would be cool? If someone could make a program that makes clicky noises out of your speakers everytime you press a key so one can almost simulate the sound of blueswitches. Ok, that sounds silly but I felt like saying that. Anyways, i went over to frys and I stopped by the keyboards and for the very first time I pressed a mechanical keyboard button. It was a 7g: black. After playing around with the keyboard for a bit, it felt sexy but I really think it felt too much like a straight button instead a key that my fingers can dance across. Now I definitely think my first mech board will be blue or brown. The question is: can I handle the sound? http://www.mrinterface.com/simulators | ||
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znitch
Sweden29 Posts
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TURKISHRAMBO
Canada148 Posts
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universalwill
United States654 Posts
a lot of choosing one of these things is dependent on the sound. if you're going to be typing around people, then black switches are a better choice. my friend has a steelseries 6gv2, and that's a great board, too. | ||
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
I most recommend cherry browns, unless you want the loud click, get blues which are almost exactly the same as browns, only a 5 gram difference. Quick vid i threw together of my DAS w/ browns **the backspace was so loud cus iwas hitting it pretty hard, and it was the key bottoming out, not the switch. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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CreditM
United States41 Posts
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