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Coledash
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland23 Posts
April 14 2012 22:02 GMT
#1061
On April 12 2012 18:11 Coledash wrote:
Hello, I would like to get some help. Im planning to buy new mouse, pad n keyboard. Thanks in advance!

1. What's your grip style?
Claw
2. What's your sensitivity?
Im not 100% sure, I have used 1200dpi mouse with 6/11 no acceleration and 51% SC2 sensitivity and I like it.
3. What's your maximum budget?
I want the best, but I dont want to pay double price for 5% more performance.
4. Do you want additional buttons?
I prefer no extra buttons, but Im willing to adapt.
5. What games do you play?
Starcraft 2
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Im not sure, I think I havent experienced it before. If its harmful to playing SC2 then I dont want it.
7. Other relevant information:
I have used and loved Logitech RX 250 mouses for years, but I want to try something new. MX518 was way too big for me and Ive heard much bad stuff about Razer products falling apart really quickly, anything else Im willing to try.

I was planning to buy Steelseries 6Gv2 keyboard, Sensei or Kinzu mouse and 4HD mousepad. Im not sure about Sensei and Kinzu after reading they have built in acceleration.


Sorry for asking again, but Im going to buy the new mouse next monday so Im in bit of a hurry. Can anyone tell me is Kinzu v2 Pro good for SC2? I like the shape and I do not need extra buttons. Also what pad would go best with it, Steelseries recommend Qck line.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
April 15 2012 06:18 GMT
#1062
On April 15 2012 07:02 Coledash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 18:11 Coledash wrote:
Hello, I would like to get some help. Im planning to buy new mouse, pad n keyboard. Thanks in advance!

1. What's your grip style?
Claw
2. What's your sensitivity?
Im not 100% sure, I have used 1200dpi mouse with 6/11 no acceleration and 51% SC2 sensitivity and I like it.
3. What's your maximum budget?
I want the best, but I dont want to pay double price for 5% more performance.
4. Do you want additional buttons?
I prefer no extra buttons, but Im willing to adapt.
5. What games do you play?
Starcraft 2
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Im not sure, I think I havent experienced it before. If its harmful to playing SC2 then I dont want it.
7. Other relevant information:
I have used and loved Logitech RX 250 mouses for years, but I want to try something new. MX518 was way too big for me and Ive heard much bad stuff about Razer products falling apart really quickly, anything else Im willing to try.

I was planning to buy Steelseries 6Gv2 keyboard, Sensei or Kinzu mouse and 4HD mousepad. Im not sure about Sensei and Kinzu after reading they have built in acceleration.


Sorry for asking again, but Im going to buy the new mouse next monday so Im in bit of a hurry. Can anyone tell me is Kinzu v2 Pro good for SC2? I like the shape and I do not need extra buttons. Also what pad would go best with it, Steelseries recommend Qck line.


Why are you in such a hurry? If your going to drop ~$50 take the time to make sure you're getting what you want.

Problem with the Kinzu and all Steel Series mice is the built in acceleration that can't be turned off and the angle snapping. If you're okay with those things then it should be fine.




I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 03:54:03
April 15 2012 20:27 GMT
#1063
1. What's your grip style?
fingertip when playing, palm when doing everything else
2. What's your sensitivity?
80% sensitivity in sc2 with a really slow, crappy old logitech optical mouse
3. What's your maximum budget?
150 USD
4. Do you want additional buttons?
NO, I JUST WANT TWO MOUSE BUTTONS AND A MOUSE WHEEL
5. What games do you play?
ONLY STARCRAFT 2
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Yes, I mind it, a lot
7. Other relevant information:
I want a really light mouse. I've been looking at the abyssus and It looks like the mouse I want, but i'm still not sure. I also need mouse mat recommendations.

The reason why I need a new mouse is because I can't use this crappy old mouse without turning up my pointer speed to 8/11, and I constantly miss buttons(as in buttons on screen) that I'm trying to click.
NSnaKe
Profile Joined November 2011
Spain18 Posts
April 15 2012 20:50 GMT
#1064
--- Nuked ---
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
April 15 2012 21:00 GMT
#1065
On April 15 2012 07:02 Coledash wrote:
Sorry for asking again, but Im going to buy the new mouse next monday so Im in bit of a hurry. Can anyone tell me is Kinzu v2 Pro good for SC2? I like the shape and I do not need extra buttons. Also what pad would go best with it, Steelseries recommend Qck line.

The V2 Kinzu is somewhat improved over the V1 Kinzu, but leaves a lot to be desired. It still has positive acceleration, but iirc that only happens once you near it's malfunction rate, which is unfortunately low. As a SC2 mouse, it could be ok but that's largely dependent on what your sensitivity is. If you are a low sens player for example, I would not recommend the Kinzu.

On April 16 2012 05:27 EdenPLusDucky wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

1. What's your grip style?
claw when playing, palm when doing everything else
2. What's your sensitivity?
80% sensitivity in sc2 with a really slow, crappy old logitech optical mouse
3. What's your maximum budget?
150 USD
4. Do you want additional buttons?
NO, I JUST WANT TWO MOUSE BUTTONS AND A MOUSE WHEEL
5. What games do you play?
ONLY STARCRAFT 2
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Yes, I mind it, a lot
7. Other relevant information:
I want a really light mouse. I've been looking at the abyssus and It looks like the mouse I want, but i'm still not sure. I also need mouse mat recommendations.

The reason why I need a new mouse is because I can't use this crappy old mouse without turning up my pointer speed to 8/11, and I constantly miss buttons(as in buttons on screen) that I'm trying to click.


I'm assuming that %80 means you want 1200-1600 CPI or thereabouts in your mouse yes? Abyssus is a good choice, but you may want to look into others like the CM Spawn or the Zowie AM.
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EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 21:12:22
April 15 2012 21:11 GMT
#1066
On April 16 2012 05:27 EdenPLusDucky wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

1. What's your grip style?
claw when playing, palm when doing everything else
2. What's your sensitivity?
80% sensitivity in sc2 with a really slow, crappy old logitech optical mouse
3. What's your maximum budget?
150 USD
4. Do you want additional buttons?
NO, I JUST WANT TWO MOUSE BUTTONS AND A MOUSE WHEEL
5. What games do you play?
ONLY STARCRAFT 2
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Yes, I mind it, a lot
7. Other relevant information:
I want a really light mouse. I've been looking at the abyssus and It looks like the mouse I want, but i'm still not sure. I also need mouse mat recommendations.

The reason why I need a new mouse is because I can't use this crappy old mouse without turning up my pointer speed to 8/11, and I constantly miss buttons(as in buttons on screen) that I'm trying to click.


I'm assuming that %80 means you want 1200-1600 CPI or thereabouts in your mouse yes? Abyssus is a good choice, but you may want to look into others like the CM Spawn or the Zowie AM.


I checked them out. The spawn has a weird landslide design that makes it look extremely uncomfortable to move around with in a small space. The Zowie AM looks nice, but I can't find a local retailer in my country that sells it. I guess I'm sticking with the Abyssus. Also, the 80% mouse sensitivity is with a crappy old optical mouse that takes ages to move across the screen, so I don't know if 80% mouse sentivity with something like the Abyssus will be totally different from what I'm experiencing right now.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
April 15 2012 21:19 GMT
#1067
On April 16 2012 06:11 EdenPLusDucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 05:27 EdenPLusDucky wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

1. What's your grip style?
claw when playing, palm when doing everything else
2. What's your sensitivity?
80% sensitivity in sc2 with a really slow, crappy old logitech optical mouse
3. What's your maximum budget?
150 USD
4. Do you want additional buttons?
NO, I JUST WANT TWO MOUSE BUTTONS AND A MOUSE WHEEL
5. What games do you play?
ONLY STARCRAFT 2
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Yes, I mind it, a lot
7. Other relevant information:
I want a really light mouse. I've been looking at the abyssus and It looks like the mouse I want, but i'm still not sure. I also need mouse mat recommendations.

The reason why I need a new mouse is because I can't use this crappy old mouse without turning up my pointer speed to 8/11, and I constantly miss buttons(as in buttons on screen) that I'm trying to click.


Show nested quote +
I'm assuming that %80 means you want 1200-1600 CPI or thereabouts in your mouse yes? Abyssus is a good choice, but you may want to look into others like the CM Spawn or the Zowie AM.


I checked them out. The spawn has a weird landslide design that makes it look extremely uncomfortable to move around with in a small space. The Zowie AM looks nice, but I can't find a local retailer in my country that sells it. I guess I'm sticking with the Abyssus. Also, the 80% mouse sensitivity is with a crappy old optical mouse that takes ages to move across the screen, so I don't know if 80% mouse sentivity with something like the Abyssus will be totally different from what I'm experiencing right now.

What mouse do you have currently?
Administrator
EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
April 15 2012 21:24 GMT
#1068
On April 16 2012 06:19 wo1fwood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 06:11 EdenPLusDucky wrote:
On April 16 2012 05:27 EdenPLusDucky wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

1. What's your grip style?
claw when playing, palm when doing everything else
2. What's your sensitivity?
80% sensitivity in sc2 with a really slow, crappy old logitech optical mouse
3. What's your maximum budget?
150 USD
4. Do you want additional buttons?
NO, I JUST WANT TWO MOUSE BUTTONS AND A MOUSE WHEEL
5. What games do you play?
ONLY STARCRAFT 2
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Yes, I mind it, a lot
7. Other relevant information:
I want a really light mouse. I've been looking at the abyssus and It looks like the mouse I want, but i'm still not sure. I also need mouse mat recommendations.

The reason why I need a new mouse is because I can't use this crappy old mouse without turning up my pointer speed to 8/11, and I constantly miss buttons(as in buttons on screen) that I'm trying to click.


I'm assuming that %80 means you want 1200-1600 CPI or thereabouts in your mouse yes? Abyssus is a good choice, but you may want to look into others like the CM Spawn or the Zowie AM.


I checked them out. The spawn has a weird landslide design that makes it look extremely uncomfortable to move around with in a small space. The Zowie AM looks nice, but I can't find a local retailer in my country that sells it. I guess I'm sticking with the Abyssus. Also, the 80% mouse sensitivity is with a crappy old optical mouse that takes ages to move across the screen, so I don't know if 80% mouse sentivity with something like the Abyssus will be totally different from what I'm experiencing right now.

What mouse do you have currently?


This old guy http://www.logitech.com/en-sg/support-downloads/downloads/mice/legacy-devices/338?WT.z_sp=Model
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
April 15 2012 21:49 GMT
#1069
ahh... and you haven't looked into the G1 or MX300 series mice? You can always use the Enotus Mouse Test to check the general CPI of the mouse and see what your mouse currently has.

http://enotus.at.tut.by/Articles/MouseTest/index.html
Administrator
EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
April 15 2012 21:52 GMT
#1070
I went on the site and norton dns blocked it http://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=enotus.at.tut.by
Zx_Storm
Profile Joined November 2010
United States49 Posts
April 15 2012 21:59 GMT
#1071
I have been looking into mice, and can't decide between the Kinzu, Abyssus, Deathadder, Tt esports Azurues, or the Logitech g400. Can someone tell me which is the best out of all of these?
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
April 15 2012 22:48 GMT
#1072
On April 16 2012 06:52 EdenPLusDucky wrote:
I went on the site and norton dns blocked it http://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=enotus.at.tut.by

It's not a virus lol. silly Norton. Just disable your AV and dl it.
Administrator
poeticEnnui
Profile Joined September 2010
United States78 Posts
April 16 2012 00:22 GMT
#1073
So, with the ADNS-9800 soon to be a thing, is anyone else gonna try and replace the ADNS-9500 in their old mouse? Wonder if the firmware will play nicely. :D

(After the warranty expires, of course...)
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
April 16 2012 02:01 GMT
#1074
Anyone here have a Theron. I've been looking at getting one. Though I really have not had a chance to test one like I have the other Tt mice. The other ones feel a bit small for me since I am so used to using the Naga.

I am torn between the Theron and the Black element. Though I have heard the Black element wasn't as big as the Theron. So I'm a bit leaning toward the Theron.

Anyone have any experience with a Theron?
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 15:57:11
April 16 2012 15:56 GMT
#1075
I was in pc world with my friend today while he was looking for laptops. I noticed a gaming mouse section and I was happy to find that they allowed you to try out all the mice. I really liked the razor death adder and the steelseries sensei. I did prefer the sensei overall but the price was a bit off putting. It was around £70 while the naga was £50. After looking online I noticed that the kana seemed to be a cheaper alternative with the same look and feel.

I was just wondering if anyone has used both the sensei and kana and could inform me of any massive differences. Is the size difference that big?
''Swarm hosts are the worst thing in the world, I mean terrorism is pretty bad but swarmhosts are worse'' IdrA on ZvZ
IPS.Blue
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany309 Posts
April 16 2012 17:02 GMT
#1076
On April 14 2012 00:28 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 22:32 IPS.Blue wrote:
On April 13 2012 20:08 Medrea wrote:
Why the fuck do quake live pros use acceleration when every other FPS in history reviles it? Is that even correct?

If you have a really low sensitivity, you need a really long time to turn around in-game. That isn't all that bad, when you're playing CS, but in Quake it is. If you have acceleration which is activated when passing a certain threshold (say 2 m/s?!) you are able to combine the benefits of two worlds: precision and speed. The acceleration won't mess with your mind a lot, since it only activates when you turn around - and at such high movement speeds you can't be that precise anyways ...

I wonder if such a threshold acceleration would make sense for SC 2.



SC2 uses a 2d UI and thus operates a lot better using a sensitivity that never requires liftoff or adjustment from the mouse, and is also pixel based instead of degrees of rotation etc, so i think any acceleration at all would be bad

Yeah, I think I have to agree with that. I just tried 90 CPI + threshold acceleration, though. Horrible ^^
viggy70
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden6 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 17:04:21
April 16 2012 17:03 GMT
#1077
Hi, I'm looking for a new mouse and would love some recommendations
1. What's your grip style?
Claw
2. What's your sensitivity?
medium
3. What's your maximum budget?
50-60$
4. Do you want additional buttons?
Doesn't matter
5. What games do you play?
SC2
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Not sure

7. Other relevant information:
Been using my Microsoft intellimouse 1.1 for a while and I really dont like it. My hands are pretty big and i've been using the Steelseries Ikari, Razer Deathadder and Razer Copperhead before. They all broke after a while and now im looking or a new one. I'd love one with a fast click that keeps working for quite some time.
[AthruN]
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia25 Posts
April 16 2012 17:54 GMT
#1078
Hi was wondering if it was worth it to buy a logitech g1 off ebay
I'm using a logitech g9x right now it's really good but it sometimes bugs out and it has some accelration
im using 1600 dpi and i know the g1 can only go to 1000 but i could just adjust the starcraft 2 mouse speed options
What does everyone think thx
Dodh
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland55 Posts
April 16 2012 19:11 GMT
#1079
I just bought a Kinzu. Tried it on Sc2. I tried to returned this garbage to the shop where I bought it, they refused. I'm trying to find a cool way to hang myself.
RIP SlayerS :/
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
April 16 2012 20:42 GMT
#1080
Steelseries cords are pretty high quality, I suppose you can hang yourself with the mouse.

Is it the Kinzu or Kinzu V2? I heard the V2 was supposed to fix everything that was wrong with the first one.
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