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Kluey
Canada1197 Posts
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TT1
Canada10062 Posts
On January 28 2012 08:39 nad3r wrote: looking forward to hearing what tt1 has to say about the g100 still waiting on it, btw hihi welcome to tl ~ and ur from iran! i already know that the mouse is gonna suck cus everyone has told me that it jitters alot, im pretty sure logitech is gonna come out with a firmware fix for it tho so the only thing that i took into consideration when buying the mouse was its shape i also just ordered an abyssus, should arrive in a few days(LOL damn ive been spending so much $ recently, bought a realforce board, 2x noppoo choc mini's, 2x g400's, a da, a abyssus, a g100, a g9x, a bunch of PBT caps, some custom made ABS keycaps, a filco board and a zowie ec2) | ||
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nad3r
Iran8 Posts
also chakeretam always good to see other persian gamers, esp ones that excel at their respective games :D | ||
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TT1
Canada10062 Posts
On January 28 2012 09:17 nad3r wrote: haha yea, long time lurker first time poster i guess, recently switched from a xai to an abyssus and im loving it(the acceleration on the xai is really noticeable after you switch). I wouldn't object to trying out other similar mice with different shapes, esp since the price tag is so low and i used logitech (mx5--) for something like 8 years before i got the xai. people also reported the abyssus had some jitter issues but only on certain pads, and was seemingly ok on hard/plastic pads and as I am a long time xray thunder pad user it was fine for me... i wonder if the g100's jitter issue is similar? also chakeretam always good to see other persian gamers, esp ones that excel at their respective games :D ^^ ty, can u palm grip ur abyssus? how much smaller is it than the xai | ||
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CluEleSs_UK
United Kingdom583 Posts
logitech g9x: If you want customisability, are unsure what you want in a mouse or you play multiple games, it's a great mouse. Extremely comfortable, palm or claw compatible depending on which shell you use. As well as this, it has a huuuuuuuge DPI (which is fully adjustable over both X and Y axis [different dpis vertically and horizontally screen]). A lot of progamers use this mouse, most notably MarineKingPrime. The biggest con, is the built in acceleration; not just software acceleration, but built into the laser. This means it can't be turned off, and for me, I chose to buy a replacement mouse because it was too annoying (a Razer Deathadder). If you currently use steeelseries product or are used to using acceleration, this mouse is great however. If you're not keen on acceleration or not sure, it's a bit expensive to "try out". Logitech G5 (Similar to G500, but cheaper and only 2100 DPI): A really great mouse overall. Adjustable weights are nice, but if you're a claw gripper or like a small mouse, it's probably not for you. It has a few DPI options (200, 800 and 2100 iirc). 2100 is plenty if you're used to some trashy default mouse, but perhaps if you are used to a high DPI, may not be sufficient. Regardless, this is a great mouse, and super cheap ($35ish I think?). It looks pretty too :D | ||
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nad3r
Iran8 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/V7IQO.jpg) as you can see it's a bit longer and fatter. the biggest things i noticed physically from the switch were the glossy sides on the abyssus that made my hand sweat the first evening i used it and the angular shape of the button part of the mouse (im more accustomed to the smooth rounded mice so i would find my fingers playing with the edges the first few days). clicking the actual mouse buttons also feels more distinct on the abyssus and while they both use omron switches something just felt strange with the xai, it is likely because i used the xai for a year and the abyssus is brand new but i thought i should mention it as i do notice it. also the aby is significantly lighter than the xai which was a huge plus. i use 1600 cpi generally so the 1800 cpi setting took some getting used to but nothing a cpi calculator couldnt fix in game.. | ||
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castled
United States322 Posts
On January 28 2012 09:27 CluEleSs_UK wrote: The biggest con, is the built in acceleration; not just software acceleration, but built into the laser. This means it can't be turned off, and for me, I chose to buy a replacement mouse because it was too annoying (a Razer Deathadder). If you currently use steeelseries product or are used to using acceleration, this mouse is great however. If you're not keen on acceleration or not sure, it's a bit expensive to "try out". There's built in acceleration in the laser?? I own a G9X and hate mouse acceleration, I have never noticed this. I also own a Deathadder, and I don't see any acceleration difference (i.e. both mice have none when it is turned off correctly). You know you have to turn off the acceleration for the G9X through SetPoint right? I'll also note that I really like the G9X and was surprised to read in the guide that lasers are less reliable than opticals. I was using a Deathadder on my (somewhat shiny) desk at first but it tracked unreliably, whereas the G9X tracks perfectly on every surface I've used it on. I also prefer the G9X over the deathadder because I use fingertip grip and the deathadder can be awkward for that (although it's nice for palming). | ||
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nOondn
564 Posts
On January 28 2012 10:11 castled wrote: There's built in acceleration in the laser?? I own a G9X and hate mouse acceleration, I have never noticed this. I also own a Deathadder, and I don't see any acceleration difference (i.e. both mice have none when it is turned off correctly). You know you have to turn off the acceleration for the G9X through SetPoint right? I'll also note that I really like the G9X and was surprised to read in the guide that lasers are less reliable than opticals. I was using a Deathadder on my (somewhat shiny) desk at first but it tracked unreliably, whereas the G9X tracks perfectly on every surface I've used it on. I also prefer the G9X over the deathadder because I use fingertip grip and the deathadder can be awkward for that (although it's nice for palming). you can't turn of, it come with hardware not software. | ||
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Depetrify
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Demicore
France503 Posts
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cmh
United States88 Posts
On January 28 2012 18:47 Depetrify wrote: Since there is still no way to turn off the Sensei's acceleration, would the G9x be the next best thing for SC2? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104261 THe G9X also uses the same sensor as the Sensei (Avago 9500) so if your looking to avoid acceleration I would stay away from it. | ||
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Zurachi
Canada289 Posts
On January 28 2012 08:46 mTwTT1 wrote: i also just ordered an abyssus, should arrive in a few days(LOL damn ive been spending so much $ recently, bought a realforce board, 2x noppoo choc mini's, 2x g400's, a da, a abyssus, a g100, a g9x, a bunch of PBT caps, some custom made ABS keycaps, a filco board and a zowie ec2) o_O While you're at it, you should start up a peripheral review website  TT1 Approved Gear | ||
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Deleted User 135096
3624 Posts
On January 28 2012 09:21 mTwTT1 wrote: They Abyssus is about 10mm shorter and 5mm thinner if that helps.^^ ty, can u palm grip ur abyssus? how much smaller is it than the xai Xai: 125.5×68×38.7 Abyssus: 115×63×40 On January 28 2012 10:11 castled wrote: The G9x doesn't exactly have built in acceleration, but there is a 5-10% positive acceleration flaw. Another thing to note about the G9x, is that it's a very heavy mouse, especially for its size. The grips add about 70g to the mouse from what I've gathered.There's built in acceleration in the laser?? I own a G9X and hate mouse acceleration, I have never noticed this. I also own a Deathadder, and I don't see any acceleration difference (i.e. both mice have none when it is turned off correctly). You know you have to turn off the acceleration for the G9X through SetPoint right? I'll also note that I really like the G9X and was surprised to read in the guide that lasers are less reliable than opticals. I was using a Deathadder on my (somewhat shiny) desk at first but it tracked unreliably, whereas the G9X tracks perfectly on every surface I've used it on. I also prefer the G9X over the deathadder because I use fingertip grip and the deathadder can be awkward for that (although it's nice for palming). | ||
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JKM
Denmark419 Posts
Sometimes I have short bursts of mouse-lag in SC2, where I lose any control over the cursor for ½-3 seconds after which it returns to normal (trying to enact whatever movements, selections etc. I made). I changed to this mouse recently and it wasnt a problem with my old mouse (Logitech mx518). Any ideas what the cause could be? PS. Sorry I cant describe the problem in greater detail, but I cant force it to happen and when it happens im usually busy in the game :O. | ||
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Depetrify
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poopman
Canada83 Posts
On January 29 2012 05:43 Depetrify wrote: ok... best non razer mouse for sc2 without acceleration? mx518 | ||
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SixSongs
Poland1455 Posts
![[image loading]](http://static.productreview.com.au/pr.products/74383_logitech_g3_laser.jpg) | ||
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Depetrify
978 Posts
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Laser-Mouse-Blue-Black/dp/B000ODN7VM/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1327785983&sr=1-2 | ||
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Deleted User 135096
3624 Posts
On January 29 2012 06:29 Depetrify wrote: I would actually get the the G400 instead. The MX518 (it's predecessor) was a great mouse, and now that the prediction/angle snapping issue has been fixed in the G400, it performs as well as the Deathadder (according to Skylit on OCN) with a few minor differences (lower perfect control rate, higher malfunction rate, low LOD).What do you guys think about this? http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Laser-Mouse-Blue-Black/dp/B000ODN7VM/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1327785983&sr=1-2 On 1.19.12 CPate (product manager for the G400) wrote: Angle snapping was removed as of PID LZ13333. Lower PIDs have angle snapping. If you get the G400, just make sure you get one with a part number over LZ13333.Also, I just re-tooled the visual data sheet I've been working on. I've attached the updated one. Crap, I always am misspelling things, or not cleaning it up lol. Another update (see newer post) Mice Added: SS Kinzu V2, SS Kana, Mionix Naos 5000, Zowie AM, Zowie EC1+2 | ||
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Depetrify
978 Posts
On January 29 2012 09:57 wo1fwood wrote: I would actually get the the G400 instead. The MX518 (it's predecessor) was a great mouse, and now that the prediction/angle snapping issue has been fixed in the G400, it performs as well as the Deathadder (according to Skylit on OCN) with a few minor differences (lower perfect control rate, higher malfunction rate, low LOD). If you get the G400, just make sure you get one with a part number over LZ13333. Also, I just re-tooled the visual data sheet I've been working on. I've attached the updated one. Mice Added: SS Kinzu V2, SS Kana, Mionix Naos 5000, Zowie AM, Zowie EC1+2 That fact that its so cheap makes me feel like its worse than mots of the other mouses in this thread o,.o | ||
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