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Nimix
France1809 Posts
I found this list of mice with flawless or near flawless sensors, seems pretty legit : http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56240.0 as the m510 is laser AND wireless, I would take a wild guess and say that it may have acceleration, and it also seems to have lagg problems according to forum posts. Doesn't seem very suited to gaming anyway :/ | ||
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Demurity
United States424 Posts
On July 24 2014 09:47 rolando wrote: What poling rate does the updated 1000 G1 have? 125Hz I believe. What is polling rate? lol On July 24 2014 10:19 Nimix wrote: I found this list of mice with flawless or near flawless sensors, seems pretty legit : http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56240.0 as the m510 is laser AND wireless, I would take a wild guess and say that it may have acceleration, and it also seems to have lagg problems according to forum posts. Doesn't seem very suited to gaming anyway :/ I heard to just assume laser mice have acceleration. But I dunno I'm pretty bad at mice knowledge. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
There are a ton of other latency sources though, from processing in the mouse itself not being instant, to other stuff on the PC. A 125hz mouse is a big no for input latency on say a 144hz screen, but might be usable for some on 60hz. You can overclock some with USB drivers i think on windows 7 at least | ||
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
On July 24 2014 12:51 Cyro wrote: Polling rate is how often the hardware is asked for new information, so for a 500-1000hz mouse there is up to a 2ms or 1ms delay added from polling alone, and for a 125hz mouse it's up to 8ms. There are a ton of other latency sources though, from processing in the mouse itself not being instant, to other stuff on the PC. A 125hz mouse is a big no for input latency on say a 144hz screen, but might be usable for some on 60hz. You can overclock some with USB drivers i think on windows 7 at least What sort of heat sink would you recommend for overclocking a mouse? | ||
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geokilla
Canada8230 Posts
On July 24 2014 12:51 Cyro wrote: Polling rate is how often the hardware is asked for new information, so for a 500-1000hz mouse there is up to a 2ms or 1ms delay added from polling alone, and for a 125hz mouse it's up to 8ms. There are a ton of other latency sources though, from processing in the mouse itself not being instant, to other stuff on the PC. A 125hz mouse is a big no for input latency on say a 144hz screen, but might be usable for some on 60hz. You can overclock some with USB drivers i think on windows 7 at least How do you overclock a mouse? My Logitech MX518 does only 125MHz. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On July 25 2014 00:40 geokilla wrote: How do you overclock a mouse? My Logitech MX518 does only 125MHz. Not sure if saying "overclock" for the mouse is right. It's done on the PC side on the USB port. Normally the mouse says what "polling rate" it wants, and the driver then configures that for the USB port. Your MX518 apparently says it wants 125 Hz. There's some sort of hack that can change this behavior on Windows 7. It replaces the USB human input device driver file with a patched one or something, making it ignore the mouse saying that it wants 125 Hz. This will only influence mice (and keyboards?), so no issue with any other USB device. Your MX518 will run fine at 500 Hz. No idea about 1000 Hz. I think this here is an up to date guide: http://www.overclock.net/t/596276/changing-usb-polling-rate-to-1000hz-or-lower There's no hack for Windows 8 as far as I know. On Linux the driver has an option for this. | ||
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Zyufin
United States85 Posts
Most of the reviews I've read have said that the Naos' grip feels great, but the Mionix software is garbage and next to useless. Does anyone know if there have been any updates to the software or have any opinions of Mionix/Naos in general? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
and also on mouse sensitivity. A lot of people get pain from using too high mouse sensitivity which forces them to grip tighter in order to be accurate. 800dpi, 1:1 on 1920x1080 is more than enough, and lower sensitivity takes reliance off your wrist/hand while making it easier to hit small targets and repeat movements accurately with good muscle memory If you have any concerns for speed at such a sensitivity - - one of the best osu mouse players | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On July 24 2014 10:01 Cyro wrote: It's in the heaviest weight class though - where ~70-90g means small and 120-130g big, a 150g mouse with weird weight distribution stands out a lot Weird weight distribution ? oO And still it does not mean it is too heavy. I had a G5 before and I used some weights in it cos I found it a bit too light actually. I changed for this one and didn't find any problem with the weight. Polling rate is really good too. Nothing noticable about latency neither. On the other hand I did notice the upgrade of comfort having no wire. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Weird weight distribution ? Batteries are more dense than the other materials in a mouse, so it feels different to a mouse of the same weight that doesn't use batteries | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On July 25 2014 18:50 Cyro wrote: Batteries are more dense than the other materials in a mouse, so it feels different to a mouse of the same weight that doesn't use batteries I see. I guess weight and balance matters more for people constantly lifting the mouse. I pretty much never do. | ||
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
First you can set everything up without drivers; you set the polling rate by pressing a button before plugging it in, dpi on a button near the sensor, and you can switch between right and left hand mode with a button combo too. The mouse is about the size and shape of a sensei, maybe a bit shorter. The coating is great, the grip on the mouse is really good. Clics are a bit hard (really noticeable compared to the spawn's omnron (?) switches), a bit surprising at first but totally fine. And 3310 sensor is great, of course. I'm just gonna venture a stupid question; lots of pros seem to prefer using 400 dpi rather than going up to 800 and halfing their in game sensitivity. Same with the polling rate, most of them use 500hz. I don't see any reason to do that other than them being stubborn or the placebo effect from having the exact same settings than with their old 1.6 hardware. Can someone just confirm this? I've read stuff about 1000hz potentially affecting performance but I suppose it shouldn't on an I5 2500 ? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
On July 25 2014 19:45 samurai80 wrote: I see. I guess weight and balance matters more for people constantly lifting the mouse. I pretty much never do. It matters less at high sens. For somebody who would use 600-800dpi on 1920x1080 for osu/league/sc2 or 30cm for a 180 turn in an FPS game it's much more of an issue compared to someone who's just using 1800dpi for osu/league/sc2/etc and not playing FPS aside from very high sens @above.. 800 should work the same as 400 afaik, some people with some mice use 500hz over 1000 because it can be more stable, but that's only an issue with certain mice | ||
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
 Mouse is terrific, the shape is really perfect for me. Definitely consider it if you want a claw/palm mouse! | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
Anyone has any reccomendations for a similar smallish fingertip mouse that is using a infrared sensor? (i like my cloth pad) | ||
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
Corsair has a whole bunch of mice with that shape so you can also get laser if you want, but you probably want the one that has the 3310 sensor. It's an optical sensor where everyone agrees it's pretty close to perfect, best you can get. If you always only used G9 and G9x so only know laser, optical means you'll probably want to use it on a mouse pad and not on a table. | ||
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