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Praxy
Profile Joined June 2014
United States32 Posts
June 17 2014 15:41 GMT
#3441
Makes sense. I don't need a wireless mouse so its probably better to stay clear.

I'm going to try the G500 logetich at best buy today.

I really like the way Mionix Naos 7000 looks... but I'm not sure about the "curve" which is designed to fit palm grip. That's my biggest complaint about the death added since I no where close to use palm grip.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 17 2014 15:43 GMT
#3442
G502 is the one with that new sensor the nerds are raving about.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Praxy
Profile Joined June 2014
United States32 Posts
June 17 2014 15:48 GMT
#3443
On June 18 2014 00:43 Ropid wrote:
G502 is the one with that new sensor the nerds are raving about.


yay .

We'll see how it goes. That mouse should still fit claw/finger grip right?

I really like my taipain... but side buttons are super annoying. (I miss click them all the time, even after a month + of use).
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
June 17 2014 16:03 GMT
#3444
Copied from another poster, another website, might be of some use:

Claw grip generally imposes a smaller mouse, even with large hands. If you were comfortable with the Spawn [CM Storm Spawn], you could just get another one (or use the warranty if still applicable), as it's still an excellent mouse for the price. Otherwise, Razer Abyssus is widely regarded as "the" claw grip mouse, if you don't mind the lack of extra buttons. Roccat Savu or Kone Pure optical could work as well. I wouldn't recommend a DeathAdder if the Spawn was suitable in terms of size.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 17 2014 16:16 GMT
#3445
That Logitech shape isn't as large as it appears in pictures when you put your hand on it. I think it's fine for claw and kind of works for finger tip grip with large hands, might actually be too small for palm grip and large hands (wheel and thumb buttons might be too far back when palming it).

What you say about the Taipan, that perhaps means the Avior would not be good for you. The shape seems very similar and the thumb buttons would then also get in the way?
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
June 18 2014 04:33 GMT
#3446
On June 18 2014 00:29 Praxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 00:26 Ropid wrote:
If you didn't understand, they are using the exact same shells, Naos 7000 and 8200, and Avior 7200 and 8000. The difference is the sensor used. The 7000 models have the Avago ADNS-3310 optical sensor, the 8200 models have the Avago ADNS-9800 laser.

Naos is that shape with special place for ring finger and stuff. Avior is more traditional ambidextrous shape. They both seem to be very similar length. I can't decide how they compare about the curve and height just looking at pictures.

I'd personally would be a bit scared about the Naos shape, can't predict if I'd hate it or not. I'd buy somewhere where I know I'd be able to give it back if I hate it. Avior seems safer to predict that's it's probably a great shape.


Any experience with the Razer Ouroboros?

I'm mostly considering this mouse because its fully customizable (so I could fit it to my specific grip type).


Yes I had the Ouroboros for about 2 weeks. First of all, the wireless part is worthless. It's not a 500Hz response time which makes playing games like SC2 or CSGO extremely difficult.

The mouse itself is really wide. Combined with it's length, it's a difficult mouse to grip if you have small/medium sized hands and use a claw-grip. I found that I had to remove the entire lower half of the mouse to actually use it with decent accuracy and comfort (I can use the Logtech G502 and Razer Naga 2014 perfectly fine).

For $120, you could do a LOT better. There's also the new EVGA Torq x10 mouse that is on-sale for pre-order and might suit your needs while at the same time is very aesthetically pleasing (if you like carbon fiber). It doesn't have the "perfect" sensor by any means but to me, the quality of the sensor isn't too important as long as it doesn't jitter or fly around like an idiot.
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Praxy
Profile Joined June 2014
United States32 Posts
June 18 2014 20:26 GMT
#3447
On June 18 2014 13:33 wptlzkwjd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 00:29 Praxy wrote:
On June 18 2014 00:26 Ropid wrote:
If you didn't understand, they are using the exact same shells, Naos 7000 and 8200, and Avior 7200 and 8000. The difference is the sensor used. The 7000 models have the Avago ADNS-3310 optical sensor, the 8200 models have the Avago ADNS-9800 laser.

Naos is that shape with special place for ring finger and stuff. Avior is more traditional ambidextrous shape. They both seem to be very similar length. I can't decide how they compare about the curve and height just looking at pictures.

I'd personally would be a bit scared about the Naos shape, can't predict if I'd hate it or not. I'd buy somewhere where I know I'd be able to give it back if I hate it. Avior seems safer to predict that's it's probably a great shape.


Any experience with the Razer Ouroboros?

I'm mostly considering this mouse because its fully customizable (so I could fit it to my specific grip type).


Yes I had the Ouroboros for about 2 weeks. First of all, the wireless part is worthless. It's not a 500Hz response time which makes playing games like SC2 or CSGO extremely difficult.

The mouse itself is really wide. Combined with it's length, it's a difficult mouse to grip if you have small/medium sized hands and use a claw-grip. I found that I had to remove the entire lower half of the mouse to actually use it with decent accuracy and comfort (I can use the Logtech G502 and Razer Naga 2014 perfectly fine).

For $120, you could do a LOT better. There's also the new EVGA Torq x10 mouse that is on-sale for pre-order and might suit your needs while at the same time is very aesthetically pleasing (if you like carbon fiber). It doesn't have the "perfect" sensor by any means but to me, the quality of the sensor isn't too important as long as it doesn't jitter or fly around like an idiot.


Thanks for the feedback.

Last night I decided to buy the Ouroboros. I have a 45 day return policy, so I'm going to try it out and see how it feels.

So far... I really like it. For all you out there I'll do a brief write up below.

Pros of Razer Ouroboros:
- Length of mouse is fully adjustable. From approx 5 inch. to 5 1/2 inch. (measurement taken from middle of mouse on top to bottom)
- Palm rest is adjustable to accommodate a large range of grip types.
- button layout feels more natural (to me) then the taipain. Buttons are closer to the back of the mouse which accommodates my grip type better.

Cons of Razer Ouroboros:
- price. Not sure the heft price tag is worth all the extra customization.
- No adjustable weight

Also: through trying out mouses... I realize I have a potentially strange grip type. My lower palm does not actually sit on my mouse. My grip type is like the finger grip; however, the upper portion of my palm (just below my knuckle joints) will rest on my mouse. Does this have a name?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
June 18 2014 20:28 GMT
#3448
My grip type is like the finger grip; however, the upper portion of my palm (just below my knuckle joints) will rest on my mouse. Does this have a name?


No, but i've seen some people do that with high sens (like 1.5k dpi)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Praxy
Profile Joined June 2014
United States32 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 20:46:48
June 18 2014 20:46 GMT
#3449
On June 19 2014 05:28 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
My grip type is like the finger grip; however, the upper portion of my palm (just below my knuckle joints) will rest on my mouse. Does this have a name?


No, but i've seen some people do that with high sens (like 1.5k dpi)



yea I can't use anything faster than 800 dpi .

I think it might be because I have big hands. When I move the mouse, my palm lifts up (so only my fingers are touching).
The only time the upper palm/hand rests on the mouse is when I'm not moving.

EDIT: on a side note: would that grip type be closer to the claw... or closer to the finger grip? xD
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
June 18 2014 20:54 GMT
#3450
On June 19 2014 05:46 Praxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 05:28 Cyro wrote:
My grip type is like the finger grip; however, the upper portion of my palm (just below my knuckle joints) will rest on my mouse. Does this have a name?


No, but i've seen some people do that with high sens (like 1.5k dpi)



yea I can't use anything faster than 800 dpi .

I think it might be because I have big hands. When I move the mouse, my palm lifts up (so only my fingers are touching).
The only time the upper palm/hand rests on the mouse is when I'm not moving.

EDIT: on a side note: would that grip type be closer to the claw... or closer to the finger grip? xD


fingertip
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Praxy
Profile Joined June 2014
United States32 Posts
June 18 2014 21:46 GMT
#3451
On June 19 2014 05:54 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 05:46 Praxy wrote:
On June 19 2014 05:28 Cyro wrote:
My grip type is like the finger grip; however, the upper portion of my palm (just below my knuckle joints) will rest on my mouse. Does this have a name?


No, but i've seen some people do that with high sens (like 1.5k dpi)



yea I can't use anything faster than 800 dpi .

I think it might be because I have big hands. When I move the mouse, my palm lifts up (so only my fingers are touching).
The only time the upper palm/hand rests on the mouse is when I'm not moving.

EDIT: on a side note: would that grip type be closer to the claw... or closer to the finger grip? xD


fingertip


That would explain why the death adder caused thumb pain... not the most comfortable finger grip mouse.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
June 19 2014 02:23 GMT
#3452
On June 19 2014 06:46 Praxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 05:54 Cyro wrote:
On June 19 2014 05:46 Praxy wrote:
On June 19 2014 05:28 Cyro wrote:
My grip type is like the finger grip; however, the upper portion of my palm (just below my knuckle joints) will rest on my mouse. Does this have a name?


No, but i've seen some people do that with high sens (like 1.5k dpi)



yea I can't use anything faster than 800 dpi .

I think it might be because I have big hands. When I move the mouse, my palm lifts up (so only my fingers are touching).
The only time the upper palm/hand rests on the mouse is when I'm not moving.

EDIT: on a side note: would that grip type be closer to the claw... or closer to the finger grip? xD


fingertip


That would explain why the death adder caused thumb pain... not the most comfortable finger grip mouse.


I tried to use DA fingertip for like 2 years.. i failed horribly
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Praxy
Profile Joined June 2014
United States32 Posts
June 20 2014 17:19 GMT
#3453
On June 19 2014 11:23 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 06:46 Praxy wrote:
On June 19 2014 05:54 Cyro wrote:
On June 19 2014 05:46 Praxy wrote:
On June 19 2014 05:28 Cyro wrote:
My grip type is like the finger grip; however, the upper portion of my palm (just below my knuckle joints) will rest on my mouse. Does this have a name?


No, but i've seen some people do that with high sens (like 1.5k dpi)



yea I can't use anything faster than 800 dpi .

I think it might be because I have big hands. When I move the mouse, my palm lifts up (so only my fingers are touching).
The only time the upper palm/hand rests on the mouse is when I'm not moving.

EDIT: on a side note: would that grip type be closer to the claw... or closer to the finger grip? xD


fingertip


That would explain why the death adder caused thumb pain... not the most comfortable finger grip mouse.


I tried to use DA fingertip for like 2 years.. i failed horribly


Yea. I ended up returning my DA after three weeks. My thumb still hurts... but its not as bad... slowly recovering xD

So far... I am loving the Odorous. The only thing I don't like about it is the ridiculous price tag.
The wireless is pretty terrible. It has a very similar "style" to the taipain except the buttons are closer to the back of the mouse.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
June 20 2014 17:40 GMT
#3454
btw, i told logitech about my defective G100S buttons and they instantly send me a new one with morning express delivery trough amazon.


I hope that one lasts longer -.-
Praxy
Profile Joined June 2014
United States32 Posts
June 20 2014 17:52 GMT
#3455
On June 21 2014 02:40 LaNague wrote:
btw, i told logitech about my defective G100S buttons and they instantly send me a new one with morning express delivery trough amazon.


I hope that one lasts longer -.-


nice. I thought about the logetech... but I prefer a mouse with less buttons.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
June 20 2014 17:56 GMT
#3456
The G100S only has 2 buttons, wheel and a DPI switch
Praxy
Profile Joined June 2014
United States32 Posts
June 20 2014 17:58 GMT
#3457
On June 21 2014 02:56 LaNague wrote:
The G100S only has 2 buttons, wheel and a DPI switch


Oh nice. :D.

ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
June 20 2014 23:10 GMT
#3458
My razer Deathadder just died.

The thing I didn't like about my deathadder was the fact I couldn't set it to 800dpi without opening the razer software.

Claw grip style, 800dpi is what I am most comfortable with mostly playing sc2, some shooters on the side.

What mouse would you guys recommend to me? I am hoping to grab it in a couple hours if possible because I wanted to play some tonight as its the only time I actually have free for the next little while.

Thanks!
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Praxy
Profile Joined June 2014
United States32 Posts
June 20 2014 23:34 GMT
#3459
On June 21 2014 08:10 ZeromuS wrote:
My razer Deathadder just died.

The thing I didn't like about my deathadder was the fact I couldn't set it to 800dpi without opening the razer software.

Claw grip style, 800dpi is what I am most comfortable with mostly playing sc2, some shooters on the side.

What mouse would you guys recommend to me? I am hoping to grab it in a couple hours if possible because I wanted to play some tonight as its the only time I actually have free for the next little while.

Thanks!


What do you mean by you couldn't set it to 800 dpi without going into the program?
You can remap the side buttons to act as dpi throttles.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-21 00:21:36
June 20 2014 23:59 GMT
#3460
On June 21 2014 08:34 Praxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 08:10 ZeromuS wrote:
My razer Deathadder just died.

The thing I didn't like about my deathadder was the fact I couldn't set it to 800dpi without opening the razer software.

Claw grip style, 800dpi is what I am most comfortable with mostly playing sc2, some shooters on the side.

What mouse would you guys recommend to me? I am hoping to grab it in a couple hours if possible because I wanted to play some tonight as its the only time I actually have free for the next little while.

Thanks!


What do you mean by you couldn't set it to 800 dpi without going into the program?
You can remap the side buttons to act as dpi throttles.


I was hoping not to run the software and the DPI is set by software

I ended up getting the RTS edition Theron from TTesports

What makes it RTS edition? It has a laser instead of optical sensor. Oh and it has side lights for apm -_-
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
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