• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:43
CEST 11:43
KST 18:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch0Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues29
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
Soulkey on ASL S20 ASL TICKET LIVE help! :D BW General Discussion NaDa's Body A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D [ASL20] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1573 users

WAN IP on router is incorrect

Forum Index > Tech Support
Post a Reply
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-22 12:57:41
August 22 2010 12:39 GMT
#1
My router is WRT54G v7. When i go to the router page (192.168.1.1) and click on status, it should give me my external WAN IP. However it doesn't seem to do this because it gives me the ip 10.1.21.216 and the default gateway 10.1.21.254

To my knowledge, a 10.xx.xx.xx ip is one of the reserved ranges for an internal ip (the other ones are 192.168.xx.xx and 172.xx.xx.xx). My ip according to "whatismyip.com" is 124.193.xx.xx.

Now I'm confused as fuck because I already have an internal ip which is 192.168.1.102. when i ping it I get <1 ms which is obvious because its me. But when i ping my 10.1.21.216 ip, I get delay of about 3 ms or so. Now some of you may be thinking that this 10.1.21.216 ip isn't me, but I assure you that it is because I hosted a quake server on my comp and then connected to it via console and it worked. So how can I have 2 internal ips and how can I have delay to myself?!

Is there any way for my router to properly recognize my real external ip? It is a big problem because this is preventing me from forwarding ports and thus hosting games.

edit: Thanks mods for moving this, didn't know we had a tech support forum now.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
love9n
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden81 Posts
August 22 2010 13:06 GMT
#2
It does sound as if you do not receive an actual public IP-adress from your ISP. This is not very uncommon and your best bet is probably to contact your ISP to find out more details.
Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 22 2010 13:17 GMT
#3
On August 22 2010 22:06 love9n wrote:
It does sound as if you do not receive an actual public IP-adress from your ISP. This is not very uncommon and your best bet is probably to contact your ISP to find out more details.


Don't you need a public ip to do things like browse the web?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Ruien
Profile Joined August 2010
China17 Posts
August 22 2010 13:18 GMT
#4
Both of your external IP's are correct, in a sense. Being under this type of configuration is called a being behind a NAT (Network Address Translation). The intricacies of NATs are actually not very complicated; basically one external machine (a gateway) handles the traffic for several client machines, maintaining data organization by using unique ports on the gateway machine. It's a technique for the "efficient" use of IP addresses by an ISP, where they don't need to buy one IP for each customer.

I also live in China, and was behind a NAT when I lived in Beijing. (Fortunately ISPs in SiChuan seem to not use NATs -- woohoo!). For outgoing connections, a NAT is not a problem, since you can still connect to the outside world. It's mainly a problem for incoming connections, because if you have an open port listening, no one can connect, because the open port really needs to be on the gateway machine and you won't know how those forwards are redirecting (and even if you did, it's only a temporary arrangement).

There are two ways to get around NATs. The first technique is called "hole punching", where two machines simultaneously connect to a central server and the server tells the machine behind the NAT to initiate a connection to the other machine; this opens a temporary port in the gateway which can then be reverse-connected by the second machine.

The second technique is to employ an SSH tunnel, which can forward ports and encrypt traffic. For this, you'll need a (linux) SSH shell at a web host where you can open a port. Then you connect from your home computer to the SSH shell host and open a port on the machine, setting up the tunnel to forward all the traffic back to your own computer. Using a tool like "autossh", you can keep this connection alive indefinitely. Then, someone connects to the SSH host on its open port and the traffic is forwarded back to you. You can find more information on SSH tunnels at a guide I wrote awhile back on the subject (http://download.ryansanden.com/ssh_tunnels.txt).

There are several hosts that are compatible with this type of thing. I use WebFaction because the cost is reasonable (~$14/month w/ dedicated IP address, which is necessary for this setup), but there are many options.

Hope that helps!
"Eternal life or your money back."
JrK
Profile Joined June 2010
United States283 Posts
August 22 2010 18:02 GMT
#5
Yep that's good ol' nat hard at work. Did you get this figured out?
JrKjrKJrk
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 23 2010 01:55 GMT
#6
Thanks Ruien for the advice. I will look into it. Perhaps I could ask my ISP to give me a unique external IP? I want to avoid spending money as much as possible
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
August 23 2010 02:08 GMT
#7
Most ISPs should give out public IPs. Usually NATted IPs are given out on smaller ISPs that can't afford an IP allocation (common with fixed wireless ISPs and some small DSL ISPs).

Ask for a public IP, and if they try to charge you for it then claim that competitor X gives out public IPs for free and ask them why they don't!
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 23 2010 02:09 GMT
#8
@R1CH

Yes my ISP is a very small one just for the compound I'm living in. It's pretty goofy and slow and I have to do things like log on to their page before I get any internet T_T

I'll ring them up when I get home, hopefully they will be generous.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 17m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 2
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5699
Bisu 731
Hyuk 162
HiyA 96
Hyun 96
sorry 86
ToSsGirL 84
Dewaltoss 82
Pusan 77
Light 74
[ Show more ]
Soma 60
actioN 56
Mini 49
ZerO 32
BeSt 30
Nal_rA 28
soO 27
Liquid`Ret 26
Sharp 24
Rush 19
Free 16
SilentControl 10
Dota 2
singsing1508
XcaliburYe237
boxi98170
League of Legends
JimRising 381
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1583
shoxiejesuss629
allub166
Other Games
XaKoH 143
NeuroSwarm75
Trikslyr15
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick599
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 593
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1421
• Stunt679
Other Games
• WagamamaTV81
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
17m
Maru vs Reynor
Cure vs TriGGeR
Rex2
Map Test Tournament
1h 17m
The PondCast
3h 17m
RSL Revival
1d
Zoun vs Classic
Korean StarCraft League
1d 17h
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
1d 22h
RSL Revival
2 days
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Online Event
3 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.