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United States1401 Posts
I don't think the case has very good ventilation. Guess I'm going to look at fans on Monday :X but have never installed one/wouldn't know where to start. actually the report from speedfan: temp1: 55c temp2: 71c temp3: 81c (gpu) hd0 63c <--- REALLY high?!?! core: 53c what should I do in this situation? am I just in a constant redzone? | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19230 Posts
Anyway, fans are pretty simple. What case do you have? | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
On August 01 2010 01:54 251 wrote: I'm really worried about my gpu temp now. I have an HD4870 - after a 3 hour session SC2 system rebooted unexpectedly. Looking at GPU temp now after just internet browsing its at 80 degrees. That's....really high.... I don't think the case has very good ventilation. Guess I'm going to look at fans on Monday :X but have never installed one/wouldn't know where to start. actually the report from speedfan: temp1: 55c temp2: 71c temp3: 81c (gpu) hd0 63c <--- REALLY high?!?! core: 53c what should I do in this situation? am I just in a constant redzone? what are you using to monitor temps? Try HWMonitor if you haven't already because that looks like SpeedFan temps. If HD0 is a Hard Drive (not sure what it is), then check the SMART status of your hard drive as well. 63C is really high for a desktop HDD. 60C is normally around the temperature you want to stay below for HDDs I think. | ||
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jaj22
United Kingdom1376 Posts
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251
United States1401 Posts
On August 01 2010 04:53 FragKrag wrote: what are you using to monitor temps? Try HWMonitor if you haven't already because that looks like SpeedFan temps. If HD0 is a Hard Drive (not sure what it is), then check the SMART status of your hard drive as well. 63C is really high for a desktop HDD. 60C is normally around the temperature you want to stay below for HDDs I think. I checked out HWMonitor. Here's the readout. ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/H0rr2.jpg) I bought this computer from lilsusie  so it has this really pink flowery case on it. I can't find any model number information on it. The front of the case however is completely flat. You see the harddrive on the bottom in front and I just noticed a 120mm fan sitting in front of it wedged against the front of the case, and I don't think its connected and has nowhere to blow from.... Anyway I think its obvious the case has a severe lack of fans/ventilation...How do I check SMART status? Thanks for the help all. edit: connected the fan that was in front of the hard drive. If it wasn't on before, it's on now. I have the computer on its side with the case opened up. Gonna leave it like this for a bit then check temps again.. | ||
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PcChip
United States50 Posts
On July 31 2010 17:06 FragKrag wrote: Vsync uses a rule which essentially dictates that the back buffer can't go to the frame buffer until immediately after a refresh. So if you are capable of getting 45 FPS on a 60Hz monitor, then every time the monitor refreshes, you draw 3/4th of the picture, but you can't display that picture because it isn't complete, so the monitor is forced to wait. So monitor is refreshed, it grabs 1 frame. Everything is ok, but then the GPU is only capable of drawing 3/4th of the frame, so the monitor refreshes and nothing is done. So far, 2 refreshes, 1 frame drawn. Then it finishes drawing the second frame, and the monitor refreshes, displaying the second frame, and drawing 3/4th of the 3rd frame. It refreshes and nothing is changed because the 3rd frame isn't complete. So far, 4 refreshes, 2 frames. And this process repeats itself. Vsync is a relic from the days of CRT anyways. Not sure why anyone would ever use it I'm sorry but that's not correct. I have actually programmed Direct3D / DirectDraw applications before; when the frame has been drawn to the backbuffer and is ready to be flipped to the main buffer (backbuffer->flip or device->present) , if the screen is currently in the middle of a refresh, it WAITS until that refresh is DONE, then draws it to the screen. So on the VERY NEXT REFRESH (which is 1/60th of a second on most LCD's) it shows your newly updated scene. Therefore you can have any FPS from 1-60, it does not "automatically cap it to either 30 or 60". Also, VSync is not simply a relic left over from the CRT days; Even on LCD's many people can't stand the tearing (myself included) | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32157 Posts
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lilsusie
3861 Posts
I had Hwanni's friend build it for me... here is the case (just the color is different): http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=918868&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=879&cate_c3=990&cate_c4=0 I've never had a problem with it overheating, but then again I hadn't played SC2 for hours on it either. Maybe just needs a new fan =/ | ||
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Incite
36 Posts
It's odd because I didn't have this problem with the beta. Also the crash happens during gameplay not during cutscenes. I've cleaned out my computer of dust and I've also edited that file to cap the framerate. Edit: I'm idling at ~63 C and after 10 minutes or so of of game time it spikes to ~100C | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On August 03 2010 10:07 Incite wrote: I just ordered a new heatsink + a couple fans to go on my 8800GT. I couldn't play more than about 20 minutes of single player missions before I would get artifacts and lock up. I downloaded msi afterburner and set fan speed to 100% as well as underclocking it (the card was factory overclocked) but it still would crash. It's odd because I didn't have this problem with the beta. Also the crash happens during gameplay not during cutscenes. I've cleaned out my computer of dust and I've also edited that file to cap the framerate. Edit: I'm idling at ~63 C and after 10 minutes or so of of game time it spikes to ~100C The 8800GT is a hot card but 100c is near the thermal limit, try cleaning it or see if you can replace the thermal paste if it uses it. although that with that idle temp it doesn't seem like its dirty Try to get the card to 85c | ||
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men1kmati
United States165 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
On August 02 2010 03:08 PcChip wrote: I'm sorry but that's not correct. I have actually programmed Direct3D / DirectDraw applications before; when the frame has been drawn to the backbuffer and is ready to be flipped to the main buffer (backbuffer->flip or device->present) , if the screen is currently in the middle of a refresh, it WAITS until that refresh is DONE, then draws it to the screen. So on the VERY NEXT REFRESH (which is 1/60th of a second on most LCD's) it shows your newly updated scene. Therefore you can have any FPS from 1-60, it does not "automatically cap it to either 30 or 60". Also, VSync is not simply a relic left over from the CRT days; Even on LCD's many people can't stand the tearing (myself included) Yes, but the problem is that it isn't flipped to the main buffer because the image isn't complete! Any gamer who has activated Vsync should know that it will cap FPS at 60-30-15-7.5 etc. Dragon Age can use vsync and the result of it is a steady 30FPS, so unless Vsync has advanced extremely quickly in the past year I doubt it would be any different. 251/Lilsusie: That case has very weird airflow. A fan pulls air from the front and another exhausts it from the back which is straight forward, but it also mounts a PSU in the front. Normally, PSU fans are designed to pull air in and exhaust it out the back so it has a fan in the front exhausting air and a fan intaking air. I don't even know where the hard drive is mounted :/ If a fan isn't working, then you will have to get it in working condition ASAP. 58C on a HDD is a bit dangerous and will likely (HDD lifetimes are all a probability anyways) reduce the lifespan of your HDD. My HDDs are currently running at 30C, and they never go over 35C. Use http://www.passmark.com/products/diskcheckup.htm to check (and monitor) the SMART status of your HDD | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
On August 03 2010 10:07 Incite wrote: I just ordered a new heatsink + a couple fans to go on my 8800GT. I couldn't play more than about 20 minutes of single player missions before I would get artifacts and lock up. I downloaded msi afterburner and set fan speed to 100% as well as underclocking it (the card was factory overclocked) but it still would crash. It's odd because I didn't have this problem with the beta. Also the crash happens during gameplay not during cutscenes. I've cleaned out my computer of dust and I've also edited that file to cap the framerate. Edit: I'm idling at ~63 C and after 10 minutes or so of of game time it spikes to ~100C Have you checked the inside of the GPU heatsink for dust? | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
Post HWMonitor + Realtemp pictures before we do anything else. I mean seriously, some of these almost seem like lost causes, that require a total rebuild. I suppose if it takes SC2 for people to start taking better care of their hardware, I'll be glad. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On August 04 2010 13:36 mav451 wrote: Lol we should just put a sticky up: Post HWMonitor + Realtemp pictures before we do anything else. I mean seriously, some of these almost seem like lost causes, that require a total rebuild. I suppose if it takes SC2 for people to start taking better care of their hardware, I'll be glad. Well this is a sc1 site before it had sc2 where a ton of ppl where playing on 10 year old comps or laptops. | ||
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On August 04 2010 13:51 mav451 wrote: My emphasis was more on poor case airflow. You would think that we've moved on from poor case design, but somehow those cases are still being sold. even causes with good airflow design dont always have the best fans or even fans supplied for the job, | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
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