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On January 05 2012 07:31 Sandtrout wrote:Okay, here are two separate lists, one for mindfactory, one for hardwareversand. There are some differences because of availabilty, it would be really cool if you could comment on them. The different parts are: HDD (is caviar green bad?) and the case. Which one is better? Thanks for recommending the Corsair CX430 V2, myrmidon. This will be sufficient for my pc for sure? Maybe you want to check the links so that it is really the right version. Thanks for all the help  mindfactory.de + Show Spoiler +hardwareversand.de + Show Spoiler +BitFenix Merc Alpha - 31,61 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50575&agid=631Western Digital Caviar GreenPower 500GB SATA II, Western Digital5000AADS - 79,00 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30370&agid=689ASRock H61M-HVS (B3), Sockel 1155, mATX - 41,81 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50895&agid=1603Intel Core i5-2400 Box, LGA1155 - 168,98 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41226&agid=1617Sapphire HD6870 1G GDDR5 PCI-E DL-DVI-I+SL-DVI-D / HDMI / DP - 144,70 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46795&agid=10048GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9 - 29,57 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44315&agid=1192Corsair Builder Series CX430 V2, 430 Watt - 38,10 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=48790&agid=1627Samsung SH-222AB bare schwarz SATA - 15,98 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=47362&agid=699= 549,75 €
Just curious: This H61M-HVS is MATX. Is there a big difference to ATX? Like, does that giant graphics card even fit on the H61M-HVS? :D
But if you say you recommended it before and everything was fine...
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On January 05 2012 07:31 Sandtrout wrote:
Okay, here are two separate lists, one for mindfactory, one for hardwareversand. There are some differences because of availabilty, it would be really cool if you could comment on them.
The different parts are: HDD (is caviar green bad?) and the case. Which one is better?
Caviar Green is a 5400 rpm drive (as opposed to 7200 rpm on the Caviar Blue and most others), which means lower performance, lower noise, lower power. You don't want a 5400 rpm drive for running an OS and programs, because this means slower seek times to find all the data.
BitFenix Merc Alpha is better than Xigmatek Asgard III.
On January 05 2012 07:53 chocopaw wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 07:31 Sandtrout wrote:Okay, here are two separate lists, one for mindfactory, one for hardwareversand. There are some differences because of availabilty, it would be really cool if you could comment on them. The different parts are: HDD (is caviar green bad?) and the case. Which one is better? Thanks for recommending the Corsair CX430 V2, myrmidon. This will be sufficient for my pc for sure? Maybe you want to check the links so that it is really the right version. Thanks for all the help mindfactory.de + Show Spoiler +hardwareversand.de + Show Spoiler +BitFenix Merc Alpha - 31,61 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50575&agid=631Western Digital Caviar GreenPower 500GB SATA II, Western Digital5000AADS - 79,00 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30370&agid=689ASRock H61M-HVS (B3), Sockel 1155, mATX - 41,81 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50895&agid=1603Intel Core i5-2400 Box, LGA1155 - 168,98 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41226&agid=1617Sapphire HD6870 1G GDDR5 PCI-E DL-DVI-I+SL-DVI-D / HDMI / DP - 144,70 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46795&agid=10048GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9 - 29,57 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44315&agid=1192Corsair Builder Series CX430 V2, 430 Watt - 38,10 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=48790&agid=1627Samsung SH-222AB bare schwarz SATA - 15,98 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=47362&agid=699= 549,75 € Just curious: This H61M-HVS is MATX. Is there a big difference to ATX? Like, does that giant graphics card even fit on the H61M-HVS? :D But if you say you recommended it before and everything was fine...
microATX just means the length is less, so there are less expansion slots at the bottom (space for 4 as opposed to 7). They fit in all cases that support normal ATX motherboards. Most OEM pre-built computers use microATX motherboards to save money, since most users won't need the extra slots and potentially other ports.
Graphics cards go in the full-length PCI Express slot, which pretty much every microATX motherboard has. The slots are the same physically and electrically as on an ATX or miniITX or other form factor motherboard.
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I wouldn't get that hdd, I think that one is unreliable
Go with Western Digital for your HDDs
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Yeah that's fine. If you're using hardwareversand, get the Super Flower Amazon 450W instead. I didn't think the price difference was worth it on mindfactory, since it looked like you were mostly trying to get the cheapest stuff when possible (motherboard, chassis). But for less than 4 euros more, it's a decent upgrade.
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30074&agid=1627
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His selected 6870 doesn't come with a molex-to-6pin adapter so he'll need one of those too.
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On January 05 2012 08:18 Wabbit wrote:
His selected 6870 doesn't come with a molex-to-6pin adapter so he'll need one of those too.
I have no idea what that is, could you link it on hardwareversand.de?
On January 05 2012 08:12 Myrmidon wrote:Yeah that's fine. If you're using hardwareversand, get the Super Flower Amazon 450W instead. I didn't think the price difference was worth it on mindfactory, since it looked like you were mostly trying to get the cheapest stuff when possible (motherboard, chassis). But for less than 4 euros more, it's a decent upgrade. http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30074&agid=1627
Thanks again
Would I have everything I need now?
+ Show Spoiler +BitFenix Merc Alpha - 31,61 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50575&agid=631Hitachi DESKSTAR 7K1000.C - 79,90 € http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30390&agid=689ASRock H61M-HVS (B3), Sockel 1155, mATX - 41,81 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50895&agid=1603Intel Core i5-2400 Box, LGA1155 - 168,98 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41226&agid=1617Sapphire HD6870 1G GDDR5 PCI-E DL-DVI-I+SL-DVI-D / HDMI / DP - 144,70 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46795&agid=10048GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9 - 29,57 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44315&agid=1192Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W - 41,95 € http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30074&agid=1627Samsung SH-222AB bare schwarz SATA - 15,98 € http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=47362&agid=699= 549,75 €
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I wish i could donate some of mine to TL.
I have like 180 of these adapters just laying around not doing anything.
If i melt them down I bet I could make you a copper ingot.
Same with VGA/DVI adapters.
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Anyone know what the a great mechanical keyboard is with cherry MX brown switches? I was looking at getting the DAS professional silent keyboard, but they are a little on the expensive side.
Thanks!
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Keyboards are... well... keyboards. Look at the layout in a picture to see if it's what you're used to/want, listen to youtube videos if you want to know what they sound like. The Zowie Celeritas is brown switches, you could buy from them if for no other reason than they sponsor e-sports (startale I think). Most mechanical boards run about $100. Maybe there's a rosewill brown switch keyboard that's cheaper, they make some of those. Both those boards would be on Newegg, not sure about other brown switch boards. Key stiffness is based on switch I think, so there shouldn't be much change there.
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I recommend against Celeritas as people have been having problems with it.
Evidently its debouncing is really really bad and people are reporting double taps left and right. TL forums have a lot of posters unhappy about that keyboard.
So the switch is good, but the keyboard around it is not so good.
I think Ducky's are a really good intro to mechanical keyboards.
But people are also raging about tenkeyless mini mechanicals as well and I admit they look like a good buy. Like the Noppoo Choc mini
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:13825
Seems right up your alley.
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On January 05 2012 08:18 Wabbit wrote:
His selected 6870 doesn't come with a molex-to-6pin adapter so he'll need one of those too.
Should instead just go with super flower amazon 450 imo, will be better and probably cost less overall
On January 05 2012 08:30 Shiwoo wrote:
Anyone know what the a great mechanical keyboard is with cherry MX brown switches? I was looking at getting the DAS professional silent keyboard, but they are a little on the expensive side.
Thanks!
The rosewill 9000s should be good, Leopolds and Filcos should be good as well, and Duckys should be good.
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On January 05 2012 08:56 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 08:18 Wabbit wrote:
His selected 6870 doesn't come with a molex-to-6pin adapter so he'll need one of those too. Should instead just go with super flower amazon 450 imo, will be better and probably cost less overall
Ah yes, it has a 6pin and an 8pin.
@Sandtrout
The HD 6870 requires 2 power cables connected from the PSU, two "6-pin" cables. The Amazon 450 has two of those, while the CX430v2 only has one 6pin. For the Amazon, one of the GPU connectors is an 8pin, but it's a 6+2 so you can still use the 6 portion to plug into the GPU; it looks like this: http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/pcie6plus2.jpg
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On January 05 2012 08:56 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 08:18 Wabbit wrote:
His selected 6870 doesn't come with a molex-to-6pin adapter so he'll need one of those too. Should instead just go with super flower amazon 450 imo, will be better and probably cost less overall
So the super flower amazon 450 already has the adapter I need for my graphics card?
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On January 05 2012 08:59 Wabbit wrote:@Sandtrout The HD 6870 requires 2 power cables connected from the PSU, two "6-pin" cables. The Amazon 450 has two of those, while the CX430v2 only has one 6pin. For the Amazon, one of the GPU connectors is an 8pin, but it's a 6+2 so you can still use the 6 portion to plug into the GPU; it looks like this: http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/pcie6plus2.jpg
Ah, thanks
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On January 05 2012 09:00 Sandtrout wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 08:56 Shikyo wrote:On January 05 2012 08:18 Wabbit wrote:
His selected 6870 doesn't come with a molex-to-6pin adapter so he'll need one of those too. Should instead just go with super flower amazon 450 imo, will be better and probably cost less overall So the super flower amazon 450 already has the adapter I need for my graphics card?
You won't need the adapter with the Amazon, as I explained above.
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Thank you for your advice, I think I'm set now and can finally buy my new pc
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On January 05 2012 09:32 broz0rs wrote:Hard drive prices are starting to go down, but still has a long ways to go... Price history for: Western Digital 1 TB Caviar Blue SATA III 7200 RPM http://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B00461LT6S
I don't think the prices will settle at their old values very rapidly. People have gotten used to the higher prices for harddisks and I don't see retailers passing up the opportunity for extra profit. Especially since the days of the largest discounts and special offers are over.
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On January 05 2012 09:43 Rannasha wrote:I don't think the prices will settle at their old values very rapidly. People have gotten used to the higher prices for harddisks and I don't see retailers passing up the opportunity for extra profit. Especially since the days of the largest discounts and special offers are over.
gotten used to it? Nah it's just the deal with supply and demand. When there's supply more than demand you need to lower the prices or you're going to be endlessly building up storage.
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