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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 01:43:50
December 21 2011 01:38 GMT
#16321
On December 21 2011 10:31 Shiwoo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Thanks skyR! I had two questions. Is it worth it to throw in a SSD? I looked at some stuff about it based on load up times and what not, but I wanted to get your opinion. My second question is that the i5 2400 says that it is 3.1 GHz, but powerboost 3.4GHz? What does this exactly mean? Thanks again!


The advertised frequency is sort of irrelevant now since your processor usually never runs at this frequency anymore -.-' It's going to downclock to 1.6GHz when it's not being used intensively and it's going to overclock automatically to 3.4GHz depending on the amount of cores being stressed.+ Show Spoiler +
3.4GHz = 1 core being used
3.3GHz = 2 cores ...
3.2GHz = 3 cores ...
3.1GHz = 4 cores ...


An SSD is worth it but it won't fit in your budget if you need a HDD for storage. If you have an external HDD or think you're never going to use more than 120gb than sure get one. I think the Samsung 470 128gb for $150 is an good inexpensive option for an SSD. Not as fast as some others but still a lot faster than your traditional HDD.



On December 21 2011 10:37 Dannnnn_The_Man wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Ok, hmm i think ill just spend the extra cash on a better monitor. How do you think that build will do in SWTOR?



The configuration can handle most games on reasonably high settings so it should be fine since I don't think SWTOR is that intensive?
Munk-E
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 03:41:34
December 21 2011 02:19 GMT
#16322
I have a problem. I am sitting here next to my half build PC, and as per this guide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls, I installed the CPU, RAM, GPU and cooler. (i5 2500k, 8 gigs patriot ddr3 1333, powercolor 6870, and hyper 212 evo respectively) on my asrock extreme3 gen 3. I got to the part where you test boot it, and upon boot, the PSU, cpu cooler, and video card fans all spin for about 2 seconds then stop for about 3 seconds, all at the same time, and just keeps doing this. the speaker doesn't make a beep or anything, and nothing on screen.

What's wrong with it?

EDIT: After research, i found that the seemingly random numbers represented problems. most of them were good, but 2 worry me, the first one it says the problem is 2f, or memory initialization (other), this doesn't happen if I only have 1 stick in.
The other one is 56, or invalid CPU type or speed. Did I do something wrong here? How do I fix it?
You recognise me because of my signature!
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
December 21 2011 03:13 GMT
#16323
Does anyone know if the voltage of Cpu Vcore under HWmonitor is accurate?
I am getting 1.04min and 1.06max in HWmonitor, 1.04 in CPU-Z and 1.3511 as VID in coretemp.
I oced my 2500k a month ago somewhat following a guide. (I remember only changing the multiplier to 43).
Do these numbers sound right? should i try to undervolt and see if its stable?
Sorry if I am being lazy, but 30min of searching by myself didnt get me anywhere.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 21 2011 03:21 GMT
#16324
1.04v for idle sounds normal... but idle doesn't really mean much.
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
December 21 2011 03:28 GMT
#16325
under prime95 test it say 1.06 on CPU-Z, I had only ran it for like 5 minutes.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 21 2011 03:48 GMT
#16326
1.06v is low though if its really at that voltage than that's amazing.
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 04:34:11
December 21 2011 04:06 GMT
#16327
Exactly, which leads to my question as to if HWmonitor and CPU-z are accurate or if I need to download another program.

I read somewhere that coretemp was a good program to look at the voltage but then I read VID only means the voltage required for the CPU to be stable at stock. so if it needs 1.3 for 3.3, how can it use 1.05 for 4.3?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/12450582.png/

edit: thats the reason I came here, every "answer" like coretemp lead to another question "wtf is VID" and then more confusion.

Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 21 2011 04:19 GMT
#16328
Yes these programs use sensors located on the board. All they do is take the data from the hardware element sitting on the board and display it to you. No programs should be more or less accurate than another, however realize that how you average out data is important to the viewing experience.

Also realize that sensors go bad, or are outright defective a lot of the time.
twitch.tv/medrea
CoffeeSalad
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada4 Posts
December 21 2011 04:23 GMT
#16329
Hey, looking to build a computer . I already have a case (and cooling). Also I have enough storage, so I'd prefer a SSD.

What is your budget?
800 US

What is your resolution?
19200x1080

What are you using it for?
Gaming and likely Streaming. I'd like to play most games out now maxed (SC2, Skyrim for instance) and be able to play most games at high graphics for the next year.

What is your upgrade cycle?
2 years+ for the full system, will probably add a second graphics card eventually

When do you plan on building it?
Early January

Do you plan on overclocking?
Nope

Do you need an Operating System?
Nope

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Yes

Where are you buying your parts from?
ncix.ca or newegg.com. I live in Canada so it must ship here, and accept paypal.

jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
December 21 2011 05:59 GMT
#16330
Another reason why Apple lovers continue to be Apple lovers.
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/12/20/apple-indeed-replacing-recalled-ipod-nano-units-with-current-generation-models/

Can't even get Samsung to admit my HTIB has a flawed design and they need to do something about it, despite thousands of people online are saying their amps are overheating and shutting off in 30-40 minutes.
spscannon
Profile Joined November 2011
146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 06:29:32
December 21 2011 06:25 GMT
#16331
out of curiosity
a i52400+ hd radeon 6870 should last around 2.5 years right? (being able to play games on low-medium)

also will the new hd radeon chips(As in the 7xxx series coming out) work with a h61 motherboard?
or would that require a better board.

Thanks for any help you guys can give
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 06:58:22
December 21 2011 06:46 GMT
#16332
Who knows if it'll last 2.5 years. We don't know how demanding games will be in 2.5 years so who knows. Yes your current motherboard will work with new HD7000 series GPUs.

On December 21 2011 13:23 CoffeeSalad wrote:
Hey, looking to build a computer . I already have a case (and cooling). Also I have enough storage, so I'd prefer a SSD.
What is your budget?
800 US


If you go for a i5 2500k + GTX560 Ti build, you won't be able to really afford an SSD. Unless you own both a CPU heatsink and power supply.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 21 2011 06:46 GMT
#16333
H61 will work with 7xxx cards.
twitch.tv/medrea
spscannon
Profile Joined November 2011
146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 07:23:37
December 21 2011 07:23 GMT
#16334
ah ok thanks
the guy at microcenter was like it will require pci 3.0 so i got scared lol
ended up getting the asus as recommended
Shiwoo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States25 Posts
December 21 2011 08:21 GMT
#16335
@skyR

I was wondering if this case would work. Please let me know! Thank you! The reason I ask is because I might be traveling on a plane with the computer so this case is a little smaller, but I don't know if that is a bad thing!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147112
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 21 2011 08:42 GMT
#16336
It should work.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
December 21 2011 10:06 GMT
#16337
I just managed to get a hold of a 2tb hdd for slightly above the price it cost a few months ago. The things you get happy about lol...
Banelings are too cute to blow up
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 10:24:00
December 21 2011 10:09 GMT
#16338
After some extensive research the past two days, I decided to go ahead and plan for a gaming pc. It will be my first build in around six years and first time I will try to OC. ^^;

Processor: Intel Core i5-2500K
Mobo: ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z - LGA 1155 - Z68
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Blu 8 GB (2X4 GB) PC3-12800 1600mHz DDR3 240-Pin SDRAM CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B
SSD: SanDisk 120 GB Solid State Drive
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 560 1024 MB
Heatsink: CoolerMaster 212+ EVO
Power: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W Modular High Performance Power Supply
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid Tower ATX

Any thoughts? This build is currently just below $1000 USD. Any underwhelming or overkill parts listed or is this build ready to go? Everybody's thoughts are much appreciated.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 10:26:43
December 21 2011 10:22 GMT
#16339
An ASUS Maximus IV is overkill, especially for a novice such as yourself. A ~$120 board such as the P8Z68-M Pro or Asrock Z68 Extreme3 is going to accomplish what you want it to: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131786 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

The OCZ ModXStream Pro is not a good choice. The Silencer MK III 500w is only $5 more expensive and is better overall: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703035 Though I think a modular unit for such a low-end build is pretty useless. I think you should just buy an Antec High Current Gamer 520 for $58: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=56787&promoid=1314 or a similar unit at a lower price.

The EVGA GTX 560 Ti DS -AR is better and less expensive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130657

I think the SanDisk uses a first generation Sandforce, which I wouldn't recommend. If you want an inexpensive SSD, it'd be much better getting a Samsung 470: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147125

I'm not sure if you already have an external HDD? Or can you really get by with only a 120gb drive? The Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB for $110 is a good deal right now for HDDs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
December 21 2011 10:26 GMT
#16340
wow, that was fast. I edited out the 560 Ti for a 560 to save $80. Any thoughts on the 560?

I'll go ahead and read up on all the parts you recommended. Thank you!
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